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cosus:
Hi all, some agencies accept vintage content, let say illustration from 18th century book. It's public domain for ages. I believe that some of you have experience with that. Do you send the standard property release for such illustrations?

TonyD:
I know Alamy accepts vintage content because it's a UK site but not sure about others as copy wright law may be different in other countries like the US

Mimi the Cat:

--- Quote from: cosus on December 04, 2021, 16:25 ---Hi all, some agencies accept vintage content, let say illustration from 18th century book. It's public domain for ages. I believe that some of you have experience with that. Do you send the standard property release for such illustrations?

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If you submit to Alamy you need to apply for a Reportage/Archival submission route usually you need to supply examples (you can do this with a selection of images in a Dropbox link).


This is a separate submission process withing your standard account and doesn't go through quality checks. You will see the application link in "Additional Revenue" option on your dashboard.

It doesn't require a property or model release but you do have to mark it none exclusive and public domain.

You make the same royalties as your standard account.

Uncle Pete:

--- Quote from: cosus on December 04, 2021, 16:25 ---Hi all, some agencies accept vintage content, let say illustration from 18th century book. It's public domain for ages. I believe that some of you have experience with that. Do you send the standard property release for such illustrations?

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iStock, it needs to be before 1900. I know they are hit and miss and sometimes don't follow their own rules, but that's the official version in the terms. SS no way. Adobe, says they don't take PD images, I see that they have some? Alamy for myself, and I don't know if they have any official guidelines, I include a property release because I'm using resources that I actually own, I have personally created.

Legally if someone finds something on the Internet, edited to make a new version, and it's been put up by someone else, there could be a legal issue. For that reason I use my own resources, my own scans or my own photos, if I do something vintage. Basically you can NOT copy and copyright something that the copyrights have expired. But if someone makes a new work, which is substantially altered and different, then you might. The question becomes, how much edit, makes something significantly different from the original?

I wouldn't want to depend on an interpretation, of what is substantially altered, when one court may see it one way and another in a different way. Murky waters and potentially legal problems.

Getty licenses PD images and protects that right, claiming. There's a full version of the no one knows the answer, until someone goes to court.  :)

Good Luck

cosus:
I know that many accept it except SS and BS. My concern is the property release. I know that they accept image if I tick off that I own it. Which is not correct, but on other side there is noone else who can rightfully claim ownership. I speak about really very old images and my own scans. I always own the original source item and I always fill the correct information about the source book.

I tested various ways how to fill the property release, but it was always rejected on some websites (and accepted on other, where probably noone was reading it).

So I just ask if there is other way how to fill the property release/upload without property release. Tick the ownership works. Just I'm not completly sure about it.

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