Author Topic: What's up with 'apologism' at major microstocks? (Read 18739 times)

DanP68 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 15, 2008, 18:31 »

Borce Gjorgjievski:

http://www.123rf.com/portfolio/capricornis/1.html

Borce,

General trends and injustices? As in?

You need to work harder. Your images lack composition in many cases, and have a decided lack of color/pop. It appears as if you are not using lighting at all, or if you are, it is too weak to make a difference.

In particular, food images need a lot of pop and color. They need to appear not only edible, but delicious.

This won't do. Your composition is fine, but I don't see anything appealing about this food shot. The lighting (if there is any besides ambient) does not add any contrast, highlight, or anything. There is a severe lack of color in this image...it's just...off-white. You might try a darker colored plate to create contrast with the dominant white food color. I made a lot of similar mistakes early on, but I listened to critique and tried to improve.

Also, consider macro so you can get close to the food. These top-down views don't tend to do well in my experience.

Your image here has a poor exposure, and it appears the white balance is way off. I know 123RF accepted it. They accept most everything I have ever sent at them. Shutterstock is a lot more critical, but they provide far more earnings. I don't know if this image can be saved in Photoshop. It really isn't worth trying anyhow, because you need to get it right (or very close) in camera.

You have a choice to make at this point. You can accept the help and critique of those who are willing to help you, or you can continue to be argumentative. It's really your choice. I don't care if you succeed or not, but I am willing to help.

madelaide · « **Reply #26 on:** April 15, 2008, 18:33 »

I have worse images than that

, but yes, we have to learn and grow.

Regards,
Adelaide

gborce · « **Reply #27 on:** April 15, 2008, 18:34 »

Dude, get off my case. And stop stalking me, ok? What you're doing is bordering on illegal.

And can't you read english? I said it is not about images, it is about attitudes, and you are proving my point. Just back off.

DanP68 · « **Reply #28 on:** April 15, 2008, 18:40 »

Quote from: gborce on April 15, 2008, 18:34

Dude, get off my case. And stop stalking me, ok? What you're doing is bordering on illegal.

I'm not stalking you. It's you who shows up on our boards with the same complaints over and over. You loaded all of your images on the Micropayment board. All I had to do is search for Borce, and Coit Tower, as you had posted them prior, and voila. Hardly a stalking. But feel free to press charges.

The bottom line is there is no BS'ing anyone anymore. Your portfolio is online. If you want to try to pull the wool over everyone's eyes, talking about all of your great images all over the microstock sites which are selling well, then anyone can check you out. I prefer to get to the truth of the matter. You see, there are newbies here who are probably falling for your claims. There isn't a single image in your portfolio which is "selling well." Be honest. Apparently those SS and IS reviewers knew what they were doing afterall.

So once again I leave it up to you. Do you want to learn something about microstock? Do you want to take better pictures? Or do you just want to continue blaming everyone for being against you?

DanP68 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 15, 2008, 18:45 »

Quote from: madelaide on April 15, 2008, 18:33

I have worse images than that , but yes, we have to learn and grow.

Regards,
Adelaide

I have worse images than that too. But when people tell me I have a problem with my images, my first question is "What can I do to get better?" Not, "Screw you moron. My pictures are selling well everywhere."

Pixart · « **Reply #30 on:** April 15, 2008, 18:47 »

Oh boy, this is getting good. More interesting than Sean and Robert.

dbvirago · « **Reply #31 on:** April 15, 2008, 18:54 »

Wow, this has gotten fun.

gborce, stalking? illegal? What are you talking about? You sound like one of those whiners that shout freedom of speech when they get blocked or locked. This is an internet forum. You state an opinion and people give theirs. There's no * law here, this is the wild west.

Go back six months and read all the posts on this or any other forum. A lot of us have been here a while and we've seen posts like yours again and again. 'I'm good and no one understands my talent.' and then you want everyone to pat you on the back and send you on your way. Ain't gonna happen.

If I want people to gush over my photography, I'll show my family. If I ask or post an opinion here or on any decent board, I'm going to expect and hope for brutal honesty. Otherwise, I've wasted my time and everyone elses.

gborce · « **Reply #32 on:** April 15, 2008, 18:55 »

Quote from: DanP68 on April 15, 2008, 18:40

So once again I leave it up to you. Do you want to learn something about microstock? Do you want to take better pictures? Or do you just want to continue blaming everyone for being against you?

No, I just want you to get off my effing back. that's all. Is it too much to ask?

Phil · « **Reply #33 on:** April 15, 2008, 20:00 »

Quote from: dbvirago on April 15, 2008, 18:54

snip

If I want people to gush over my photography, I'll show my family. If I ask or post an opinion here or on any decent board, I'm going to expect and hope for brutal honesty. Otherwise, I've wasted my time and everyone elses.

your lucky that your family gush, if I want brutal honesty I show my family

the reviewers are more forgiving LOL

DanP68 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 15, 2008, 20:02 »

Quote from: gborce on April 15, 2008, 18:55

No, I just want you to get off my effing back. that's all. Is it too much to ask?

Yup.

I see you are also under the gun for attempting to spam the iStock database.

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=68180&page=1

Apparently you have bigger problems than me pointing out that you constantly run down reviewers and start fights on message boards. You've already been Wiki'd there. iStock doesn't take that kind of nonsense, so you might want to change your keywords before your account gets closed.

If I may quote Jtyler from the iStock thread:

I'm sorry if you are offended - I did not go through your whole portfolio. But since everyone who responded to you, including the Chief of Keywords, Keywords himself, has said that these are inappropriate and that they will be removed if brought to their attention, I thought you would welcome the opportunity to get off to a good start. So you can persist and dig in your heels, but I wouldn't recommend it. You came for help but have decided to reject it. That's your right to do that. Again good luck.

Sound familiar? It seems most everyone starts by trying to help you, but ends up defending themselves from your rants.

It's one thing that you are getting yourself into altercations everywhere you post. It's quite another that you are trying to cheat our system with spam. You are potentially taking money from all of our pockets. That will get you booted out the door of places like iStock, Dreamstime, and Shutterstock. At this point you have zero credibility. The people you have chosen to argue with on various boards reads like a Who's Who of top microstock contributors. Think of the lost opportunities. All of those brilliant image producers, willing to help you. But you more intent on arguing with them. Why?

madelaide · « **Reply #35 on:** April 15, 2008, 21:25 »

Quote from: gborce on April 14, 2008, 16:57

Is this some misguided pride or exclusivity or some other pathological psychology?

helix7 · « **Reply #36 on:** April 15, 2008, 23:05 »

Quote from: gborce on April 15, 2008, 18:34

Dude, get off my case. And stop stalking me, ok? What you're doing is bordering on illegal.

And can't you read english? I said it is not about images, it is about attitudes, and you are proving my point. Just back off.

Yeah, come on people! Get off his back already! If the guy wanted opinions he'd would ask for them by posting a message with his thoughts about microstock in a public forum. Oh, wait...

Seriously, the illegal thing, funniest post I've read in a while. Thanks for the laugh, man.

anonymous · « **Reply #37 on:** April 15, 2008, 23:06 »

did i say i want to be a dentist?

dan...what floats?

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #38 on:** April 15, 2008, 23:11 »

Interesting. I wasn't aware there was a microstock anti-stalking law. So you can't get within 100 yards of... what?

gborce · « **Reply #39 on:** April 16, 2008, 01:24 »

Wow, DanP68, you are just not stopping with the rants, are you? I must have touched a nerve there

Seriously dude, watch your blood pressure, you are not young anymore, and you are taking this crap too seriously anyway..

peace and love

Bateleur · « **Reply #40 on:** April 16, 2008, 02:47 »

Troll alert! Troll alert! Troll alert! Hee-haw! Hee-haw! Troll alert!

leaf · « **Reply #41 on:** April 16, 2008, 02:59 »

well this thread is spiraling downwards fast... so with no further ado...

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Author Topic: What's up with 'apologism' at major microstocks? (Read 18739 times)

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