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What exactly are we to them anyway?
tätarätä:
--- Quote ---And you also have businesses whose overhead is a small fraction of what others pay. Work will be outsourced to areas where cost of living is low and so are labor rates (and expectations of such). If you are living in a major "western" city and expect this to be any more than a hobby, you're either exceptionally talented, hard working or you are in for disappointment.
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Even for a hobby, istock and shutterstock are not sustainable.
panicAttack:
--- Quote from: cathyslife on July 20, 2020, 10:26 ---
--- Quote from: panicAttack on July 20, 2020, 09:26 ---
--- Quote from: cathyslife on July 20, 2020, 06:21 ---They are a business. They do what makes the most money for them. Most businesses do. Maybe you aren’t cut out for microstock. Maybe you are better suited for journalism.
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we are also businesses. Microstock is also business, it's not like only agencies are businesses here.
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And as a business, you have the ability to choose not to do business with a company that doesn’t further your goals. They do what’s best for them...you should to.
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absolutely. And I'm doing the same.
MichaelMango:
--- Quote from: tätarätä on July 20, 2020, 11:34 ---
--- Quote ---And you also have businesses whose overhead is a small fraction of what others pay. Work will be outsourced to areas where cost of living is low and so are labor rates (and expectations of such). If you are living in a major "western" city and expect this to be any more than a hobby, you're either exceptionally talented, hard working or you are in for disappointment.
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Even for a hobby, istock and shutterstock are not sustainable.
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I make a reasonable monthly income from iStock, despite the criticism I see of it here. I admit I earn a lot less than I used to but my lot less is a 4 figure monthly income still with an RPD considerably better than most I see people admitting to here. I suspect a lot of the criticism is from hobbyists who would never make much anywhere.
cascoly:
--- Quote from: Shelma1 on July 20, 2020, 09:05 ---
--- Quote from: Copidosoma on July 20, 2020, 08:22 ---What are we?
We are part of a VERY large crowd in a crowd-sourced industry.
We work in an industry where the basic tools of the trade are owned by virtually everyone.
We are contributing media to a pile which is larger than most people can imagine.
I don't understand why so many contributors think they should be special or "precious" to these agencies. You are a face in a crowd. Infinitely replaceable.
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As are stock agencies to buyers.
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for the major agencies, maybe - but if stock was fungible, the 'lesser' agencies would do better
whenever i encounter people who buy from stock agencies (or those who even know what stock is) their primary response is shutterstock, followed sometimes by adobe or getty, but rarely all 3 and rarely another agency
cascoly:
--- Quote from: Snow on July 20, 2020, 10:23 ---
Well to ask for more sales or better search position is one thing but to ask for a small feature that will benefit both the contributor and the agency is another.
They seem to have a policy to go against everything we ask for, no matter what it is, even if it's beneficial to them.
I'm well aware of my position in this business which is comparable to an ant in an anthill run by cockroaches....
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while i agree with you, as a software developer i can understand their reluctance - even small tweaks need to go thru regression testing for unintended effects (at least for good practice) so even small changes are costly - throw in several small changes and the odds increase that something will go wrong.
otoh we see all the time software that's released w/o adequate testing (essentially users are not beta, but alpha testers)
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