I tried wirestock a couple of years ago,after 2-3 months I deleted everything and closed the account,and judging by the gains I see from those who use it I have done well.

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 16, 2024, 04:05

I tried wirestock a couple of years ago,after 2-3 months I deleted everything and closed the account,and judging by the gains I see from those who use it I have done well.

When they went pay, I left the account active. I still have around 500 images, which are distributed to sites where I have no account. 123RF, DP, Evanto, a bunch more, in other words, everywhere except SS, AS, AL, IS and DT. And some of those have rejects and other files, activated for sale, from WS. Odd how that works? Rejected personally, but accepted at WS and the agency that rejected the image?

It makes me as much a year as IS, which is a nice bottle of single malt. For free, I do no work, I'm happy. 

But I wouldn't pay for the right to upload or have them do the keywords and distribution. Maybe some other people find it a benefit? I'd have to have many more images, to make it worthwhile.

Of course,it's all subjective in the end,it depends on what works for you,or simply what you prefer to do.

as far as I know,based on what those who use wirestock say,more or less you get 10usd a month for around 5000 contents,then maybe clearly this will be different for someone I don't know.

what I know,and that's fine with me,it's just that it's not worth leaving content on display for thieves and copycats if an agency makes so little,not to mention the waste of time it takes to upload and all the various problems it can cause,such as in this case the free collection without pay.

If an agency doesn't make much money,it's better to let it go than settle for crumbs and have too much wasted time and various problems.

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 16, 2024, 12:32

Quote from: Uncle Pete on April 16, 2024, 11:33

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 16, 2024, 04:05

I tried wirestock a couple of years ago,after 2-3 months I deleted everything and closed the account,and judging by the gains I see from those who use it I have done well.

When they went pay, I left the account active. I still have around 500 images, which are distributed to sites where I have no account. 123RF, DP, Evanto, a bunch more, in other words, everywhere except SS, AS, AL, IS and DT. And some of those have rejects and other files, activated for sale, from WS. Odd how that works? Rejected personally, but accepted at WS and the agency that rejected the image?

It makes me as much a year as IS, which is a nice bottle of single malt. For free, I do no work, I'm happy. 

But I wouldn't pay for the right to upload or have them do the keywords and distribution. Maybe some other people find it a benefit? I'd have to have many more images, to make it worthwhile.

Of course,it's all subjective in the end,it depends on what works for you,or simply what you prefer to do.

as far as I know,based on what those who use wirestock say,more or less you get 10usd a month for around 5000 contents,then maybe clearly this will be different for someone I don't know.

what I know,and that's fine with me,it's just that it's not worth leaving content on display for thieves and copycats if an agency makes so little,not to mention the waste of time it takes to upload and all the various problems it can cause,such as in this case the free collection without pay.

If an agency doesn't make much money,it's better to let it go than settle for crumbs and have too much wasted time and various problems.

Wirestock isn't an agency, they are a distributor to agencies. You can't blame Wirestock for thieves any more than the actual agencies, which are the same as we upload to and the same as they distribute to. If you make $10 a month on WS then you would make $10 a month on your own. Wirestock is not an agency.

as I said:"it's all subjective in the end,it depends on what works for you,or simply what you prefer to do".

as far as I'm concerned,I had an account on Wirestock which I closed,I simply don't like the idea of ​​a single portfolio for all contributors,and I prefer to upload to a few better agencies,where I don't need to give a part of the royalties which are already generally low.

and allow me to add that Wirestock's behavior in this case was certainly not the best,have decided to add contributors contents to the free collection,without asking and without payment,contents that have not been sold on their platform,but which are not necessarily unsold on other agencies.

if they want content to be given in the free collection they must give contributors the opportunity to choose and above all they must pay.

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 16, 2024, 12:32

Quote from: Uncle Pete on April 16, 2024, 11:33

Quote from: Injustice for all on April 16, 2024, 04:05

I tried wirestock a couple of years ago,after 2-3 months I deleted everything and closed the account,and judging by the gains I see from those who use it I have done well.

When they went pay, I left the account active. I still have around 500 images, which are distributed to sites where I have no account. 123RF, DP, Evanto, a bunch more, in other words, everywhere except SS, AS, AL, IS and DT. And some of those have rejects and other files, activated for sale, from WS. Odd how that works? Rejected personally, but accepted at WS and the agency that rejected the image?

It makes me as much a year as IS, which is a nice bottle of single malt. For free, I do no work, I'm happy. 

But I wouldn't pay for the right to upload or have them do the keywords and distribution. Maybe some other people find it a benefit? I'd have to have many more images, to make it worthwhile.

Of course,it's all subjective in the end,it depends on what works for you,or simply what you prefer to do.

as far as I know,based on what those who use wirestock say,more or less you get 10usd a month for around 5000 contents,then maybe clearly this will be different for someone I don't know.

what I know,and that's fine with me,it's just that it's not worth leaving content on display for thieves and copycats if an agency makes so little,not to mention the waste of time it takes to upload and all the various problems it can cause,such as in this case the free collection without pay.

If an agency doesn't make much money,it's better to let it go than settle for crumbs and have too much wasted time and various problems.

Wirestock isn't an agency, they are a distributor to agencies. You can't blame Wirestock for thieves any more than the actual agencies, which are the same as we upload to and the same as they distribute to. If you make $10 a month on WS then you would make $10 a month on your own. Wirestock is not an agency.

Just like someone else who says Wirestock claims to own the right to your images, which isn't true. I guess anyone can write anything they want and ignore the truth.

If they asked me to include anything in free, I'd say no. They asked, and anyone with any sense would say, Hell No, exposure doesn't pay the bills or put food on the table. 

Wirestock is NOT an agency, you're right. I don't know how anyone can compare earnings from how many images, when the same agencies that we can work on our own, are supplied by Wirestock. If sales stink, it's not the fault of WS, it's the images or the agencies.

Small advantage in the search when WS has a better image rank for sales because they make more sales and have more images. Worth 15% and paying for access, distribution and questionable keywording? That's up to the individual.

Wirestock can probably be defined as a "sub-agency",an agency that distributes content to other agencies.

But defining Wirestock as an agency is not wrong in my opinion,because if I'm not mistaken they also have their own direct sales.

They do have Marketplace Subscription, which is somewhat invisible and sure, a fine point. BUT...  Their main business and how we generally work with them is their functioning as a distribution route to other agencies. Maybe someone here has had an actual sale from WS? I've seen none.

WS is also supposed to be, providing a service, managing the metadata for us. I don't need that and don't want to pay for vague descriptions or keywords, when there are important specifics.

I also don't support, paying to offer my images for free, for "exposure" or whatever else. They have had Marketplace for years, which isn't anything I'm interested in using. If Marketplace makes WS an agency, on a technical fine point, OK, but it's certainly not important or profitable. "Wirestock Marketplace extends an exclusive opportunity for buyers through a supplementary subscription plan. Each time your content is downloaded from the Wirestock Marketplace, it contributes towards your monthly earnings. These earnings are calculated based on the total subscription revenue from buyers and the relative contribution of your content to the platform."

what a great idea !  latest from wirestock: "Great news! We�ve launched the Wirestock Marketplace. To boost its promotion, we�ll include 5% of your unsold content in our free collection. "   "By offering your content for free, you gain unmatched exposure, potentially increasing your sales and overall platform visibility."

dont they know unmatched exposure leads to skin cancer?

Yes, another bad idea from WS, that most of us will ignore.