10%?!? I'd struggle not to swear in my reply to them...

I had files on Corbis through the Getty House program. I have no idea how big my individual royalty was, I was getting 20% from whatever getty made, at least this was my understanding of the contract. But if this is what they offer externally than it must have been very low as well.

Incredible! Who would be so stupid to accept such a deal?

Exactly. Which is why I hope to build a solid portfolio on stocksy.

No, my files were definetly on Corbis.  There is a collection called "ocean images" or oceanstock or something and it had  a lot of Getty files. I think my name was also missing, but I found them by doing specific searches (christmas,easter,jewelry)

I took screenshots at the time,they are somewhere on one of my many computers. If I can dig them up, I can post them somewhere. But you can do test searches yourself, look for images from a getty house contributor and try to find their work elsewhere. Tineye searches are also helpful.

My images were also on Masterfile, f1online and many other places.

All the macro sites seem to be licensing images to each other. Didn�t look like a big competition to me.

But I didn�t see my whole portfolio on Corbis, just a few files. And I couldn�t click on a name and then see if they had more.

I read somewhere that this "everyone licenses to everyone" is part of the macro business culture.

I have spent a lot of time looking at the files available in my niche in the macro world, so that when I shoot something it is fresh and different. You then recognize the same files everywhere. Sometimes because they are being licensed from Blend, aurora,westend61, but there is also a lot of exclusive getty content that is being moved around.

Nothing wrong with it in principle, your files get more chances to be sold that way.

I have content on Corbis.

Leaf, the deal you were offered by Veer is after their take.  Corbis is similar to Getty in commission percentages.

Thanks, that makes more sense if it is a third party deal but both Veer and Corbis are Corbis so there is absolutely no reason for them to third party deal to themselves... unless of course they want to hog more than their share of the money, in which case it makes perfect sense.

as if 15% on istock was so much better ?

that is exactly what they are thinking, that once again we will accept such pittance, how about Alamy?

I was just sent a friendly email from Veer saying they are interested in moving some (or all) of my content over to Corbis.  The eye popper however is that the rate for non-exclusive images would be a pitiful 10%.  Really?  As flattered as I am, I'm afraid that doesn't quite tempt my pocket book.  Unless they sold sell thousdands of $$ of my content per day I'd be better off keeping it on Shutterstock and the rest ... and the thought of supporting an agency paying 10% doesn't suit my fancy much either.

Does anyone here have their content on Corbis?  I just can't see how anyone would justify the 10%.  The exclusive rate was 20% which is still crazy low.

Taking my chances with fewer sales and higher commissions at Stocksy (50%) seems like a much more sane decision.

Thoughts?

Let them clearly know what you think!

Quote from: Ed on September 03, 2013, 21:02

I have content on Corbis.

Leaf, the deal you were offered by Veer is after their take.  Corbis is similar to Getty in commission percentages.

Thanks, that makes more sense if it is a third party deal but both Veer and Corbis are Corbis so there is absolutely no reason for them to third party deal to themselves... unless of course they want to hog more than their share of the money, in which case it makes perfect sense.

Leaf - this is exactly the case...and it's a similar case with Demotix who is owned by Corbis.  Each business unit keeps their percentage.

I read somewhere that this "everyone licenses to everyone" is part of the macro business culture.

More like, it is a "creative method" to pay less the original supplier and spread a greater portion of the profit between the agency cartel.

 

I had files on Corbis through the Getty House program. I have no idea how big my individual royalty was, I was getting 20% from whatever getty made, at least this was my understanding of the contract. But if this is what they offer externally than it must have been very low as well.

Incredible! Who would be so stupid to accept such a deal?

We are the stupids!! of course!!

15% Istock
5-8% in some fotolia fake subscription plans
3% with deposit and shotshop deal
And your 20% income in getty is not far to the... 10%

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