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« on: November 04, 2014, 11:07 »
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I can't see if you can back up RAW files with this, anyone know?
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/learnmore


« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2014, 11:38 »
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I don't think so. Take a look at this information from the FAQ (I'm a Prime member but I didn't know about this - not likely to use it as I already have an online backup service)

"Prime Photos is for your personal, non-commercial use only. You may not use it in connection with a professional photography business or other commercial service."

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201634590

From that link "Unsupported photo file types are not covered under the Prime unlimited storage benefit and will count against your Cloud Drive storage limit." My files are CR2, and I don't see that or NEF in the list

« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2014, 12:09 »
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I don't think so. Take a look at this information from the FAQ (I'm a Prime member but I didn't know about this - not likely to use it as I already have an online backup service)

"Prime Photos is for your personal, non-commercial use only. You may not use it in connection with a professional photography business or other commercial service."

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201634590

From that link "Unsupported photo file types are not covered under the Prime unlimited storage benefit and will count against your Cloud Drive storage limit." My files are CR2, and I don't see that or NEF in the list

I wonder if the list is comprehensive, they do say they accept raw files.  Also I wonder if backing up all your photos would violate that clause.  You wouldn't be using the cloud for commercial purposes, would it be connected to your business if it was just for backing up or would you need to be using the cloud to sell images for it to be a problem? 

« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2014, 12:28 »
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Who knows? But it would be a pita if you stored all your stuff there and then they decided you were using it for business and simply deleted everything.

« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2014, 12:31 »
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Apparently it is ok to use it if you are a professional photographer.

« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2014, 12:38 »
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Even for personal use it is very limited, you cannot even create folders.

« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2014, 15:05 »
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Apparently it is ok to use it if you are a professional photographer.
Suit yourself, I'll stick with Photoshelter.

« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2014, 15:07 »
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Apparently it is ok to use it if you are a professional photographer.
Suit yourself, I'll stick with Photoshelter.
I asked Amazon, they said it was ok.

« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2014, 09:35 »
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I don't think so. Take a look at this information from the FAQ (I'm a Prime member but I didn't know about this - not likely to use it as I already have an online backup service)

"Prime Photos is for your personal, non-commercial use only. You may not use it in connection with a professional photography business or other commercial service."

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201634590

From that link "Unsupported photo file types are not covered under the Prime unlimited storage benefit and will count against your Cloud Drive storage limit." My files are CR2, and I don't see that or NEF in the list

Professional photographers can use this and lots of different RAW formats are supported including CR2, NEF, DNG, along with most major manufacturers RAW files.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2014, 09:43 by tickstock »

« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2014, 10:49 »
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I can't see if you can back up RAW files with this, anyone know?
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/learnmore
My question is, even if it was unlimited with every conceivable feature and lightning fast, why would you trust someone like that with your images?

« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2014, 11:00 »
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I can't see if you can back up RAW files with this, anyone know?
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/learnmore
My question is, even if it was unlimited with every conceivable feature and lightning fast, why would you trust someone like that with your images?
Why wouldn't you?

« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2014, 11:03 »
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I use Backblaze + offline disks for archiving. Even if I could use the Prime storage for photos, I'd still need Backblaze for everything else. Given that Backblaze is one price per computer for unlimited storage, I don't really have an incentive to switch.

Another photographer who looked at this said that the no commercial use limitation did apply, so I don't know what to make of conflicting answers on that aspect of the storage deal.

« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2014, 11:06 »
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I use Backblaze + offline disks for archiving. Even if I could use the Prime storage for photos, I'd still need Backblaze for everything else. Given that Backblaze is one price per computer for unlimited storage, I don't really have an incentive to switch.

Another photographer who looked at this said that the no commercial use limitation did apply, so I don't know what to make of conflicting answers on that aspect of the storage deal.
Where did they get that information?  Also the 'commercial use' limitation could have different meanings.  I was told by Amazon, after they asked someone who could answer the question, that it was ok.  I asked twice making sure they understood that I was a professional photographer and they said they understood and it was ok.

« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2014, 12:06 »
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I use Backblaze + offline disks for archiving. Even if I could use the Prime storage for photos, I'd still need Backblaze for everything else. Given that Backblaze is one price per computer for unlimited storage, I don't really have an incentive to switch.

Another photographer who looked at this said that the no commercial use limitation did apply, so I don't know what to make of conflicting answers on that aspect of the storage deal.
Where did they get that information?  Also the 'commercial use' limitation could have different meanings.  I was told by Amazon, after they asked someone who could answer the question, that it was ok.  I asked twice making sure they understood that I was a professional photographer and they said they understood and it was ok.


This is what it says on amazon.co.uk;

Prime Photos is for your personal, non-commercial use only. You may not use it in connection with a professional photography business or other commercial service.

« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2014, 12:36 »
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I use Backblaze + offline disks for archiving. Even if I could use the Prime storage for photos, I'd still need Backblaze for everything else. Given that Backblaze is one price per computer for unlimited storage, I don't really have an incentive to switch.

Another photographer who looked at this said that the no commercial use limitation did apply, so I don't know what to make of conflicting answers on that aspect of the storage deal.
Where did they get that information?  Also the 'commercial use' limitation could have different meanings.  I was told by Amazon, after they asked someone who could answer the question, that it was ok.  I asked twice making sure they understood that I was a professional photographer and they said they understood and it was ok.


This is what it says on amazon.co.uk;

Prime Photos is for your personal, non-commercial use only. You may not use it in connection with a professional photography business or other commercial service.
It does say that.  I asked them specifically (twice) if professional photographers could use this without it being a problem and referenced that line.  The representative asked someone else who was more in the know and they said it was fine.  I told them again that I was a professional photographer and the representative said she had already told them that and it was ok.
My guess is that by commercial use they mean using the service for actual business.  Storing your images isn't a commercial activity, you can't generate income from that.  If you were storing all your images with them and somehow linking it to your business site (if that's possible) and allowing people to download images from your cloud account then that would probably not be allowed.

If you doubt what I'm saying you can ask them, I'd be curious if they gave you a different answer since the representative seemed very sure of the answer she gave me after consulting with higher ups.

ShadySue

« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2014, 12:49 »
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I use Backblaze + offline disks for archiving. Even if I could use the Prime storage for photos, I'd still need Backblaze for everything else. Given that Backblaze is one price per computer for unlimited storage, I don't really have an incentive to switch.

Another photographer who looked at this said that the no commercial use limitation did apply, so I don't know what to make of conflicting answers on that aspect of the storage deal.
Where did they get that information?  Also the 'commercial use' limitation could have different meanings.  I was told by Amazon, after they asked someone who could answer the question, that it was ok.  I asked twice making sure they understood that I was a professional photographer and they said they understood and it was ok.
Maybe their help team was trained by the same people who trained iS's. I've had vastly different answers to the same question from different CR reps.

« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2014, 12:51 »
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I use Backblaze + offline disks for archiving. Even if I could use the Prime storage for photos, I'd still need Backblaze for everything else. Given that Backblaze is one price per computer for unlimited storage, I don't really have an incentive to switch.

Another photographer who looked at this said that the no commercial use limitation did apply, so I don't know what to make of conflicting answers on that aspect of the storage deal.
Where did they get that information?  Also the 'commercial use' limitation could have different meanings.  I was told by Amazon, after they asked someone who could answer the question, that it was ok.  I asked twice making sure they understood that I was a professional photographer and they said they understood and it was ok.
Maybe their help team was trained by the same people who trained iS's. I've had vastly different answers to the same question from different CR reps.
I doubt they were trained by the same people or that Amazon has any connection to iStock.  Every thread doesn't have to be about iStock does it?  Besides as far as I know there has only been one response from Amazon on this topic, have you heard others?
« Last Edit: November 12, 2014, 12:54 by tickstock »

ShadySue

« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2014, 13:01 »
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I use Backblaze + offline disks for archiving. Even if I could use the Prime storage for photos, I'd still need Backblaze for everything else. Given that Backblaze is one price per computer for unlimited storage, I don't really have an incentive to switch.

Another photographer who looked at this said that the no commercial use limitation did apply, so I don't know what to make of conflicting answers on that aspect of the storage deal.
Where did they get that information?  Also the 'commercial use' limitation could have different meanings.  I was told by Amazon, after they asked someone who could answer the question, that it was ok.  I asked twice making sure they understood that I was a professional photographer and they said they understood and it was ok.
Maybe their help team was trained by the same people who trained iS's. I've had vastly different answers to the same question from different CR reps.
I doubt they were trained by the same people or that Amazon has any connection to iStock.  Every thread doesn't have to be about iStock does it?  Besides as far as I know there has only been one response from Amazon on this topic, have you heard others?
It says on their site that it's for personal, non-commercial use.
You were told that commercial togs could use the service.

Of course, "personal, non-commercial use" isn't clear. Maybe they're just forbidding someone selling via their service (if that could be possible). It's certainly ambiguous.

« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2014, 13:08 »
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I use Backblaze + offline disks for archiving. Even if I could use the Prime storage for photos, I'd still need Backblaze for everything else. Given that Backblaze is one price per computer for unlimited storage, I don't really have an incentive to switch.

Another photographer who looked at this said that the no commercial use limitation did apply, so I don't know what to make of conflicting answers on that aspect of the storage deal.
Where did they get that information?  Also the 'commercial use' limitation could have different meanings.  I was told by Amazon, after they asked someone who could answer the question, that it was ok.  I asked twice making sure they understood that I was a professional photographer and they said they understood and it was ok.


This is what it says on amazon.co.uk;

Prime Photos is for your personal, non-commercial use only. You may not use it in connection with a professional photography business or other commercial service.
It does say that.  I asked them specifically (twice) if professional photographers could use this without it being a problem and referenced that line.  The representative asked someone else who was more in the know and they said it was fine.  I told them again that I was a professional photographer and the representative said she had already told them that and it was ok.
My guess is that by commercial use they mean using the service for actual business.  Storing your images isn't a commercial activity, you can't generate income from that.  If you were storing all your images with them and somehow linking it to your business site (if that's possible) and allowing people to download images from your cloud account then that would probably not be allowed.

If you doubt what I'm saying you can ask them, I'd be curious if they gave you a different answer since the representative seemed very sure of the answer she gave me after consulting with higher ups.

I don't doubt what you were told but if, as others have said, the system is so basic that you cannot even create folders then it wouldn't be of much use to me. Pity because I was hoping it would be a useful means of back-up and access when away from home. Maybe, by not allowing folders, they are deliberately limiting it's usefulness to potentially heavy users ... like professional photographers.

« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2014, 13:53 »
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I don't see an option for professional photographers on Amazon so I doubt they are deliberately limiting the usefulness of the cloud service.  Maybe they just haven't put a lot of resources into it and if they get lots of people signing up for it they'll make changes like adding folders?  Maybe some people with Amazon prime can try it out and let us know how functional it is.  Can you bulk upload and download files easily for instance?

« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2014, 16:05 »
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I don't see an option for professional photographers on Amazon so I doubt they are deliberately limiting the usefulness of the cloud service.  Maybe they just haven't put a lot of resources into it and if they get lots of people signing up for it they'll make changes like adding folders?  Maybe some people with Amazon prime can try it out and let us know how functional it is.  Can you bulk upload and download files easily for instance?

Amazon S3 (and Glacier) is the option for professionals -- including photographers.

« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2014, 16:18 »
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I don't see an option for professional photographers on Amazon so I doubt they are deliberately limiting the usefulness of the cloud service.  Maybe they just haven't put a lot of resources into it and if they get lots of people signing up for it they'll make changes like adding folders?  Maybe some people with Amazon prime can try it out and let us know how functional it is.  Can you bulk upload and download files easily for instance?

Amazon S3 (and Glacier) is the option for professionals -- including photographers.
Is it?  The first sentence from the website is:  "Amazon Simple Storage Service (Amazon S3), provides developers and IT teams with secure, durable, highly-scalable object storage." 
It doesn't look like it is aimed at photographers at all but at very large corporations.  I think I'll stay away from anything that is aimed at developers and IT teams to back up my photos.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2014, 16:21 by tickstock »

OM

« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2014, 20:46 »
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Trust your all to the cloud
And one day you'll be crying aloud.  :)

« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2014, 15:51 »
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I just gave it a try and am uploading 1400 jpgs to a new folder which I created inside the picture folder already provided.

« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2014, 15:39 »
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123rf best free storage


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« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2014, 16:50 »
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123rf best free storage


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You can store RAW unedited files on 123RF?  I doubt they've started allowing that.

« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2014, 23:40 »
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123rf best free storage


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You can store RAW unedited files on 123RF?  I doubt they've started allowing that.

No, but i like having a site with my stock port on it that will let me DL  it for free if  i need it.  Don't know why other sites make us pay to get a copy of our own images. 

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« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2014, 07:39 »
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what do they mean for "unlimited space" ? can i upload 2-300GB of JPGs for instance ? will they ban my account in the future for no reason ? will it take me weeks to upload ?


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« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2014, 12:03 »
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Out of the topic! Amazon what a "great" company(like many others) to deal with!
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/nov/28/being-homeless-is-better-than-working-for-amazon


 

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