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« on: October 19, 2017, 20:22 »
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If I am earning $20 with 200 images on Shutterstock, Ill earn $200 with 2000 images. Anyone experienced that?


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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2017, 21:09 »
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How I wish this were true.  On a positive note though if your next 1800 images are as good and commercial as the original 200 then yes. They might even be better! Good luck.

« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2017, 22:03 »
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No, not even close. Sorry, I wish it was linear.

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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2017, 23:06 »
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What UKstock says. Although if you're uploading similars then there's a point where you start cannibalising your own sales... but with the benefit of showing up more often in searches, and increasing the chance that buyers will take one or the other if you have two images with the same content.

And it's always hard to know what's going to sell and how well... so you may think your additional 1800 images are just as good, if not better, than your original 200... and they end up not being that popular.

Bottom line... you'll make more with 2000 than you will with 200. Only time will tell how much!

« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2017, 00:58 »
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Not my early experience and probably hard to achieve now...but if you are a very good photographer and respond to and even better anticipate customer demand I'm sure it could be done and better. With the state of the market though I wouldn't take on any financial commitments such as loans based on projected income.

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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2017, 01:53 »
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If you double your portfolio every 6 months, you'll maintain the same income probably.

« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2017, 01:55 »
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If you double your portfolio every 6 months, you'll maintain the same income probably.

Seems legit but think of that guy who got 10000 images online. Thats must be kickass to double in 6 months lol.


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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2017, 07:51 »
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If you double your portfolio every 6 months, you'll maintain the same income probably.

Seems legit but think of that guy who got 10000 images online. Thats must be kickass to double in 6 months lol.


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10,000? That's minor these days. There are 500,000- 1,000,000 portfolios out there. Even if it took them 10 years it's 100,000/year upload.

« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2017, 07:52 »
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If you double your portfolio every 6 months, you'll maintain the same income probably.

Seems legit but think of that guy who got 10000 images online. Thats must be kickass to double in 6 months lol.


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10,000? That's minor these days. There are 500,000- 1,000,000 portfolios out there. Even if it took them 10 years it's 100,000/year upload.

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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2017, 08:09 »
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10,000? That's minor these days. There are 500,000- 1,000,000 portfolios out there. Even if it took them 10 years it's 100,000/year upload.

Those are teams and companies. Not individuals.

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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2017, 08:25 »
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If I am earning $20 with 200 images on Shutterstock, Ill earn $200 with 2000 images. Anyone experienced that?


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The formula is quite a bit more complex. It requires knowing diffeqs and how to integrate them.

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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2017, 08:40 »
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10,000? That's minor these days. There are 500,000- 1,000,000 portfolios out there. Even if it took them 10 years it's 100,000/year upload.

Those are teams and companies. Not individuals.
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2017, 10:47 »
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If I am earning $20 with 200 images on Shutterstock, Ill earn $200 with 2000 images. Anyone experienced that?


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The formula is quite a bit more complex. It requires knowing diffeqs and how to integrate them.
There is no formula however sophisticated your model too many unknowns  everyone is different and the past is an unreliable predictor of the future in this scenario its just fancy looking guesswork. More to do with understanding statistics probability and economics than calculus.

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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2017, 11:11 »
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If I am earning $20 with 200 images on Shutterstock, Ill earn $200 with 2000 images. Anyone experienced that?


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Possibly but most likely not. Is that per month or per year?

There's another post about Return Per Image Per Month. RPI tends to go down as portfolio size increases. It also depends on how sellable your images are, if you improve over time, etc. So performance may look something like this.

200 images = $20 Per Month (.10 RPIPM)
1000 images = $80 Per Month (.08 RPIPM)
2000 images = $120 Per Month (.06 RPIPM)

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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2017, 15:25 »
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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2017, 00:43 »
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Maybe a logarithmic model ?

« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2017, 01:56 »
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2017, 10:33 »
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When i start microstock five years ago,
One of my 10 test pictures has become my best seller(still today. I remember having thought :wow , i just have to make 1000 pictures like this !

Silly me !

« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2017, 13:43 »
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When i start microstock five years ago,
One of my 10 test pictures has become my best seller(still today. I remember having thought :wow , i just have to make 1000 pictures like this !

Silly me !
Yes same here, the first few best sellers I had I thought eventually I would come up with the perfect formula to reproduce winners every time. Turns out a lot of it is luck and volume. 5% (or something) just take off like crazy while some better or more useful images go nowhere.

« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2017, 14:29 »
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If I am earning $20 with 200 images on Shutterstock, Ill earn $200 with 2000 images. Anyone experienced that?


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No and don't expect that anyone ever will. The person with the best grasp and records, who kept ahead of this for a couple years is Stockmarketer. Maybe he'll come through and explain his results, but he was on top for a good time and eventually hit the earnings wall. The only way I have maintained my earnings is adding new niche images, not by numbers alone.

It's like some who say if you have more images you make more sales. No relationship to competition or what are the photos? If you have ten keywords and make 10 sales, will 30 keywords get you 30 sales? Some people think so, but I don't. Quality not quantity.

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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2017, 16:55 »
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On SS, my top 5 images account for 1,200 downloads out of my total of 8,200

Even though those 5 images account for only 0.12% of my portfolio of 4,180 images they account for 14.6% of total downloads.

« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2017, 17:16 »
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On SS, my top 5 images account for 1,200 downloads out of my total of 8,200

Even though those 5 images account for only 0.12% of my portfolio of 4,180 images they account for 14.6% of total downloads.
about 11% for me which I guess goes to show that a few really "good" images make a huge difference....now if only I could work out what makes a good image ;-).....of those 5 I would say only one of them was one I thought was going to do really well.

« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2017, 19:33 »
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My top five are almost 17% of total downloads.  All are pretty old but three of them still get regular downloads.

« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2017, 00:57 »
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Its a kind of worrying stat but only one of those top 5 sells well on other sites and even then not that well. The other "interesting" thing about mine are they were all taken less than 20km from my home and I don't live anywhere scenic and the only cost was petrol. (except no 2 which was from a walk down the road!).

« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2017, 12:17 »
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My top five are almost 17% of total downloads.  All are pretty old but three of them still get regular downloads.

I also did a quick calculation for my top Shutterstock photos.
See the attached graph:
5% of my photos bring 50% of my photo revenue.
10% of my photos bring 67% of my photo revenue

I guess I will not be too far from the 80-20 rule, if I extend the graph.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2017, 12:25 by Zero Talent »


 

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