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« on: October 31, 2012, 06:35 »
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Hi there,

Currently I don't own any lighting equipment and therefore not experimented with lighting in general. I'm keen to start learning but want to start on the cheap side. People have recommended clamp lights. Unfortunately, here in the UK I cant find any that are like the ones at Home Depot in the US. When I do manage to locate one, what bulbs are recommended? Daylight? Highest wattage? It's just for general lighting at the moment just so I can experiment with different setups.

What would you recommend my minimum requirements would be to start experimenting with different shots?

I'm aware that this is vague but just need a nod in the right direction.

I have a daylight lamp (for S.A.D.) and this is really bright. I've used this a couple of times and it's worked ok.


Thanks in advance


« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2012, 07:16 »
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I started out buying Speedlites. At first i had a Canon 430ex and then i bought another 2 of these Yongnu 560 Flashes. I also bought a cheap wireless flash trigger (also from yongnuo) so that i could trigger them all at the same time.

http://www.amazon.com/Yongnuo-YN-560-Speedlight-Flash-Canon/dp/B004GZLFHM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351685371&sr=8-1&keywords=yongnuo+560


After a few months i also bought a Octabox for Speedlites.
I'm actually very happy with this setup. I have 3 flashes that i can manually set up and the white balance also isn't a problem.

I also believe that Flashes are way better than using day light bulbs etc. Since the white balance is quite a problem with daylights.

PS: 2 of the Yongnuo Flashes and the wireless triggers cost me about 110

« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2012, 07:25 »
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What benefits do flashes /speedlites have over continuous lighting? Is it just their versatility? I've never used an external flash.

Thanks

« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2012, 07:33 »
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What is budget? How big is your space? Indoor or outdoor? What's the subjects, people or table top objects? You need to give more details of what you intent to use for us to give you better ideas.
You mentioned going cheap, you can get really cheap setup going on e-bay, 3 continuous lights + stands + extras.

« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2012, 07:35 »
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flashes/strobes/speedlights are able to provide more light without making things super hot.  Continuous lights get pretty hot and heat up a little studio in a hurry.  Strobes are also better at stopping motion if that's an issue.  If the scene is 100% lit by strobes you'll stop motion at around 1/10,000 of a second.  Using hotlights you'll stop motion at whatever speed your shutter is set at.

« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2012, 07:41 »
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Well, I foresee myself eventually getting a lot of gear but as I'm very new to it all I want to start with some simple stuff to allow me to play around and get a feel for setting up and controlling light before plunging into it. I don't have a set space in mind but I have access to a large industrial unit but also rooms in my house. Mainly indoor for now so I can get used to controlling artificial light with table top objects.

I'm confused by what Leaf said. What do strobes do exactly?, I thought your shutter speed was the only factor in stopping motion, ie obviously the more light you have the faster the shutter speed can be.

thanks

« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2012, 07:47 »
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Continuous lights can best help you to learn because you can see the light. There are fluorescent type (even day-light balanced) that are not running hot as old bulbs.
 

« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2012, 08:22 »
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I'm confused by what Leaf said. What do strobes do exactly?, I thought your shutter speed was the only factor in stopping motion, ie obviously the more light you have the faster the shutter speed can be.

Hot lights are ... hot.  They make models uncomfortable.  They also give you shots where their pupils are closed down due to the continuous light.  However, what you see is what you get, and you can shoot at whatever settings you like to get a proper exposure.  ie., ISO 100 1/60 at f4 or ISO200 1/120 at f/4, etc.

Strobe lights flash instantly, so the pupils don't have time to react.  They are obviously cool, since they are on for a fraction of a second.   Now, assume you are in a totally dark room (disregard focus issues).  It doesn't matter whether your shutter is open for 1/100 or 5 seconds.  The only light that will be gathered over time is that split second flash.  Now, your aperture will let in more light during that split second, the wider it is open ( and your sensor will be more sensitive, as usual at higher ISOs).  So, shutter speed doesn't matter in this situation.  It just has to be below the sync speed for your strobes (1/160 for AlienBees, for example).

Now, if you are in a room that has ambient, you can't play that game, because you will gather some light from the ambient sources that might cause blur on your model.  But you also might gather enough ambient so you don't have a blown out model and a midnight black background.  You have to weigh the balance.

« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2012, 08:29 »
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A lot to think about and process. I have bought two books I'm about to start one - Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0817439390/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00

The other is Creative Lighting: Digital Photography Tips and Techniques [Paperback]
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0470878231/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00

Hopefully these will help too

Thanks for the advice
 


 

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