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« on: October 02, 2010, 10:33 »
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I spent many weeks in bed this winter.  When I got home from a week in the hospital I had a hard time seeing my computer screen and more-so I could could no longer read in bed.  Scared the crap out of me.  Finally I realized that it was worse when I was wearing contacts, and if I took off my glasses I could read just fine.  Very suddenly my closeup vision was really really bad.  Distance is pretty normal.  Doctor swears it is not related, it's just my age.  According to the Internet (because everything you read on the Internet is true ;)) you can suddenly need reading glasses.  It seems to have stabilized, but - yes, I need to see my optometrist.  I've now become that old lady peering over the tops of her glasses.

What happens to the "working" eyes now?  I don't do a lot of closeup work (thank god!), but obviously focusing a macro is going to be a challenge.

I see my eye doctor shortly, but I'd like to be prepared if I can.  I never wear glasses when I'm shooting. always contacts.  There is a "progressive" contact lens that you can get (think bifocal).  Does anyone here use progressive lenses?  It seems that sometimes you are prescribed one lens with and one lens without and your brain retrains itself to dominate on one side.  Would I get my "shooting eye" in progressive, OR would I get a diopler?  That's the term isn't it for the focusing attachment for the eye piece on the camera body?  Can you just walk into a camera store and "try them on" or do you have to order one with a prescription?

On the other hand... do progressive lenses interfere with regular shooting?   

Anyone been through this?  Supposedly noone can escape needing reading glasses I just never thought it would happen to me.  I just have to admit that I'm turning into an old lady.  What's next? A hip replacement?  I better not need one before my kids are into braces  :D.

Thanks, Lorraine


« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2010, 10:47 »
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hi take a break first...maybe try to spend some time to do activities outdoors..i think sometime our eyes just need to 'exercise'!

donding

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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2010, 10:57 »
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Pixart....I don't have the answer you need...but you bring up a good point I never even thought about. I do wear glasses and tried progressive contact lens a few years back...but because of stigmitism I couldn't get use to them. I never tried shooting with them in so I don't know how that would effect it. Let us know what the eye doctor has to say about it. I usually take my glasses off when I shoot and just have to hope the auto focus is doing it's job.

vonkara

« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2010, 11:19 »
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The problem is more the optometrist who continuously sell glasses since the 18th century. Almost 200 years of optometrist doctorate end in almost no evolution in eye care speaking of 5 years ago.

They did invent eye laser correction. From what I know it was still not recommended by the optometrist association through the world 2 years ago. They really only care about selling you lens for the rest of your life. I don't even talk about those frames who are pieces of plastic sold at 150$ each.

Add to this that those doctors have no explanation for most of your eye problems, it reveal you the problem, the optometrist are glasses sellers

I actually also wake up this morning and have difficulty to read. Weird coincidence. I won't ask for an answer that's sure

lisafx

« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2010, 12:28 »
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I feel your pain Lorraine.  You and I must be close in age.  I have always had better than 20/20 vision, but the last year or so my vision is just fried. 

I know the doctor says it isn't related to this work, staring at an LCD all day adjusting images, but I would SWEAR it is. 

Fun part for me is I have one eye that focuses close up and one that focuses far away.  So basically wherever I look it's blurry.   :-\

I got two pairs of glasses to balance the vision.  One is for the computer and the other is for reading.  Know just what you mean about being the old lady peering over the glasses, LOL. 

FWIW, I originally tried getting the progressive lenses rather than the two individual pairs of glasses, but I hated them!  I guess it was just too hard to train my eyes to look through one part or the other when they are used to looking wherever they want.  And the transition area in the middle of the lens looked like walking through a swimming pool.  Horrible! 

I don't need the glasses to shoot because I can just close one eye and look through the viewfinder, so the different focusing eyes aren't an issue.  Have you tried not using the contacts and just using the diopter adjustments to shoot? 

rubyroo

« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2010, 13:21 »
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This won't help, but it might amuse a little...

I've been trying to explain what myopia is like to my other half for years.  It finally came to me... I said 'It's as if your vision is set at F22, and mine's at F8'.

Finally, he gets it.  

ETA:  I've come across a book called 'Better Eyesight Without Glasses' many times over many years, but have never read it, so can't vouch for the method.   I recall that it's based on The Bates Method and just found this website here if it's of interest - it has articles, case studies and a shop selling various books on the subject:

http://www.seeing.org/
« Last Edit: October 02, 2010, 13:37 by rubyroo »

« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2010, 14:37 »
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I have myopia, for which I use contact lenses.  Mild stigmatism however prevents it from being a real solution.  I'm starting to have difficult to read at short distance (that age thing...), although this is not often a concern.

Now, I did prefer the old times of focusing with that half-cut circle. I find it really difficult to focus manually in today's cameras, except in very close up subjects.  I never thought this was related to my eye defficiency, but this thread made me wonder.

Vonkara, you must come to Brazil and visit my opthamologist.  ;D He's been taking care of my eyes since I was a child  ::), and many things changed along the way. Myopia surgery is not applicable to all cases. Today's eyeglasses are not the same as when I used them.

My mother got used very easily with her Varilux glasses, but my father never did, so he used two glasses. You need to learn to use Varilux, because each vertical position will focus in one area, so you have to move your head when previously you only moved your eyes.  Those who adjust to it are very happy. 

But above all, buy quality lenses.  It's even more important than for our cameras.

« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2010, 15:25 »
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2010, 15:27 »
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Yeah, my hands got too short a couple of years ago ;D so my optometrist gave me bi-focal glasses that I never wear , only when I read small font. Like Lisa said I hate my glasses, if my head is straight then everything in front of my feet is out of focus. Can't get use to it.
For photography I don't need it.

« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2010, 15:32 »
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LOL, my current specs have Nikon glass.  (Yes, I'm serious!)  I noticed they didn't have any Canon glass though.

I'm glad to hear stories about the progressives.  From what I've gathered, everyday things like climbing stairs, or reaching for something you've dropped can be very difficult.   First your eyesight goes, then you trip on the stairs because of your progressives and break a hip...  soon shopping for a nursing home.

Yes, I do miss split image focusing madelaide!

Thanks for that link rubyroo - I've seen others like it.  Your link seems to be much more thorough though.  I have even tried specific excersises in the past, but I lack the disipline gene.  I'm not sure how much a method like this can help with this type of vision loss though.  Supposedly some part of the lens becomes brittle at a certain age and there is no escaping it.

Dioplers - does my have a +/- for vision?  I will have to check when I'm upstairs.  Unless it is an attachment that I left in the box?  I am hoping to buy a new body this year, I guess this will have to be on my check list.

« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2010, 15:36 »
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This looks promising: http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=7436477


Oh, these look fabulous!  Well, they don't look very stylish -  but what a fabulous invention!

vonkara

« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2010, 15:50 »
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Forgot to add in my previous furious post that, many medication and pills have a effect on the eyesight.

madelaide, I would certainly come to take a exam, then lay on a beach all winter and maybe go to the Rio carnival. Winter is often a bad thing here...

Pixel-Pizzazz

« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2010, 16:40 »
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WOW - can I relate!

I'm 45 and this happened to me too - and pretty much 'all of a sudden' I couldn't read anything upclose with my glasses on.  I'm near sighted, wear glasses fulltime but could always see well both near and far with them on before.  I can now be seen wearing my glasses on my neck to get a good read of something.  There has already been stuff that I can no longer make out (super itsy bisty type) without magnification.  I'm the 'old' women who forgets about my 'neck glasses' and then nearly trips over them when I get up from sitting :D

I feel for ya Granny  ;D

« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2010, 16:43 »
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I've used glasses since I was 8, because I have myopia. But as I grow older, the myopia has been reducing. I started at -3.5, now I'm down to -1.5. If this trend continues, I can become a fighter pilot in 10 years.

Pregnancies and child births have been periodes where my eyesight has taken big leaps in the right directions; maybe you should try that cure too? ;)

Pixel-Pizzazz

« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2010, 16:49 »
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respectfully snipped...
Pregnancies and child births have been periodes where my eyesight has taken big leaps in the right directions; maybe you should try that cure too? ;)
LOL!
For me, it was a lush head of hair...now, in the grade school age, I'm all grey ;D  Seriously!

« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2010, 18:13 »
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You guys are too funny.  Oh, the worst thing is I just got a Blackberry and the 3 year contract that comes with it and was such a sudden change that now I can barely make out the text on the * thing!  Just 2 1/2 years left!!!

vonkara

« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2010, 18:20 »
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I've used glasses since I was 8, because I have myopia. But as I grow older, the myopia has been reducing. I started at -3.5, now I'm down to -1.5. If this trend continues, I can become a fighter pilot in 10 years.

Pregnancies and child births have been periodes where my eyesight has taken big leaps in the right directions; maybe you should try that cure too? ;)

Wow, I knew we could get recovery of our eyesight but not that much. Nice to know

WarrenPrice

« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2010, 18:37 »
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Don't know your age but at "just before" 60, I discovered cataracts was the problem.  A simple procedure to remove them and insert a permanent lens and Voila!  I can see.   Or, I could see.  Need to check back with the doc.  Getting harder and harder to see small print an dim light.

Good luck. :-\

« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2010, 18:48 »
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Seems to be going around! I too, had way better than 20/20 my whole life. I turned forty and suddenly the arms can't get long enough. So far ok with shooting, but definitely need the reading glasses at night. Cant wait to hear what the opto says.

« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2010, 18:53 »
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My advice is probably very stupid, but my camera has an adjusting wheel that can compensate the problem of myopia. At least, you don't have to wear glasses while you shoot.

I had another problem. I noticed I see better than my 7 year old son, so I took him to the doctor. It appeared that I have above average eyesight, and his eyesight is normal.  :-\
« Last Edit: October 02, 2010, 18:55 by Dreamframer »

vonkara

« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2010, 18:59 »
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My advice is probably very stupid, but my camera has an adjusting wheel that can compensate the problem of myopia. 
 

That never worked for me, I think it's more a fancy feature. There is so much different eyesight problems that it's not enough accurate
« Last Edit: October 02, 2010, 19:05 by Vonkara »

lisafx

« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2010, 19:58 »
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My advice is probably very stupid, but my camera has an adjusting wheel that can compensate the problem of myopia. At least, you don't have to wear glasses while you shoot.


Exactly!  That's the diopter - the little wheel that Canon cameras have on the viewfinder.  Works great :)

« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2010, 21:07 »
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Don't know your age but at "just before" 60, I discovered cataracts was the problem.  A simple procedure to remove them and insert a permanent lens and Voila!  I can see.   Or, I could see.  Need to check back with the doc.  Getting harder and harder to see small print an dim light.

Good luck. :-\

Shhhh you said the C word.  My two doctors have phone calls about me and they both keep threatening high doses of prednisone, of course the scariest side effect is cataracts.  More concerned about the possibility of cataracts than the almost certain dissolving bones, weight gain and personality changes that come with Prednisone...   Both my parents had cataracts removed and my sister had them at 50 and I think my brother had his removed this past winter. 

Maybe as a whole we (photographers) worry about our eyes more than the general population.  One of my husband's buddies was taking the escalator up to her office and bam, her vision was gone in one eye and mostly gone in the other.  Just like that.  I know it sounds like an urban legend, but we know her.  Scarrrry.

Pixel-Pizzazz

« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2010, 22:19 »
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My advice is probably very stupid, but my camera has an adjusting wheel that can compensate the problem of myopia. At least, you don't have to wear glasses while you shoot.

I had another problem. I noticed I see better than my 7 year old son, so I took him to the doctor. It appeared that I have above average eyesight, and his eyesight is normal.  :-\
Well, that's good news!
How many times, though, have we been outsmarted by our lil grade two'rs!  It humbles me to count.  They've got such honest and simple logic!

OM

« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2010, 18:49 »
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Funny thing is eyesight. Until the age of 42 I had good eyesight for both distance and reading. Slowly but surely my arms became too short to read a newspaper/book but were still fine for focusing a manual-focus lens. Now, 18 years on, I need a +3 correction (reading glasses) for viewing a monitor and a +1 correction on my DSLR for distant scenes as well as macro shots (35mm slide copying) through a camera. I suspect that viewing through a DSLR is effectively viewing at infinity.
For driving and long-distance vision, I also use  +1 reading glasses. I'm lucky because I don't need to visit an optometrist to purchase hideously expensive bits of plastic with (-) correction lenses...........all (+) correction lenses are available at the druggist or department store for less than 5. In 18 years, my correction for reading glasses has gone from +1 to +3.

This is all as nature intended! As you and wife grow older, it is difficult to see the lines of age appearing on spouse's face, preserving the illusion of youth. ;D ;D


 

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