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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Photography Discussion => Topic started by: null on February 26, 2009, 23:13
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In a discussion with Vonkara in another thread, he posted some tables comparing the CA of a prime 50mm and a 18-125 Sigma Zoom, gold band. The worst number was around 0.8 px there. I'm using the latter zoom lens on a D200 as an allround lens but some wide angle landscape shots in the tropics show fringe that is much higher.
I'm posting some shots here for advice. Is this normal? The CA seems well above 0.8 px. Am I doing something wrong?
Note: same lens, no CA visible in studio.
1. Overview.
(http://cjoint.com/data/dbe1Lmevhu_clip-0-310.jpg)
Location: 8 degrees N of equator, april, sun exactly in azimuth at 11.30am; time of shot 9am, sun around 35 degrees from the left, very hard, clear morning.
Nikon D200 - raw with no adjustements except exposure from 1 to 1.15;
Sigma 18-125 DC 1:3.5-1:5.6
ISO 100, 1/160s, F10, 18mm, all raw settings "normal"
2. Clip 1: shadows on pavement right-center-bottom
(http://cjoint.com/data/dbfdSIbGPh_clip-1-310.jpg)
Top: 1:1. Bottom: 700%. Seems to exceed 0.8 pix, right?
3. Clip 2: trees left-center-top
(http://cjoint.com/data/dbfgnoDc6P_clip-2-310.jpg)
300% and 1:1
4. Clip 3: tree stem left-center-top
(http://cjoint.com/data/dbfh6W16Dl_clip-3-310.jpg)
Only 500%
5. Clips 4: uploaded version
(http://cjoint.com/data/dbfx1i5FDQ_clip-4-310.jpg)
(http://cjoint.com/data/dbfMiyMkub_clip-5-310.jpg)
Since the shot was borderline focused, I uploaded it reduced from 10 to 4MP, with lightness channel sharpening of 0.9px, 22% and removed the fringe. The process took 20mins which is not really productive. The clips are 1:1.
Thanks for any thoughts.
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That is a pretty fair amount of fringe, for sure. Did you have a filter on? If so it could be the filter.
I have found when processing raws that Lightroom 2 has a nice feature to get rid of fringing. It is under Lens Corrections in the Develop menu. You can change the color of red or greenish fringe independently. Seems to work very well.
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Yes I recently discovered that Lightroom trick too. Works great! You can "shift" the fringe a bit to the left/right and make it disappear, and also change its color. That's 2 minutes instead of 20. Well worth a try!
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Call me a cowboy.... but I bit running a de-saturation tool over the fringed pavement area would probably clear that up for you! ;-)
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Call me a cowboy.... but I bit running a de-saturation tool over the fringed pavement area would probably clear that up for you! ;-)
That's what I do to, a 50% soft brush at the side where there is the least harm: the tree stems and not the foliage.
Thanks to LisaFX and Anyka for having a look. It's all a matter of workflow and time involved. Lightroom might be an option apparently, but to invest time and money in Lightroom just for that is perhaps counterproductive. On the Ken Rockwell site I read that the D90 does it in cam, like the D300, but I'm not sure about the reliability of Rockwell.
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Call me a cowboy.... but I bit running a de-saturation tool over the fringed pavement area would probably clear that up for you! ;-)
That's what I do to, a 50% soft brush at the side where there is the least harm: the tree stems and not the foliage.
Thanks to LisaFX and Anyka for having a look. It's all a matter of workflow and time involved. Lightroom might be an option apparently, but to invest time and money in Lightroom just for that is perhaps counterproductive. On the Ken Rockwell site I read that the D90 does it in cam, like the D300, but I'm not sure about the reliability of Rockwell.
Can't you use Adobe Camera raw?
It has CA removal tools.
Works quite well and it only takes a few seconds.
You have to shoot raw, though.
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Can't you use Adobe Camera raw?
It has CA removal tools.
Works quite well and it only takes a few seconds.
You have to shoot raw, though.
Yes I'm always doing raw. I'll check. I reverted to my old CS2 and the raw developer is quite rudimentary.
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LR will take care of those fringes easily. Quite common for wider angle shots,especially outside. There is defringe setting as well as CA adjustments. I have a bunch of presets entered for different focal length of different lens. No fuss, no muss. Takes seconds to do and is very accurate. 20 Minutes on one image would make me want to quite photography.
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Can't you use Adobe Camera raw?
It has CA removal tools.
Works quite well and it only takes a few seconds.
You have to shoot raw, though.
Yes I'm always doing raw. I'll check. I reverted to my old CS2 and the raw developer is quite rudimentary.
Unfortunately, CS2 does have a worse version of ACR. You need at least CS3 to see the improvements ACR 4.4 brought. I use ACR 4.6.
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If that's f/10 that's a terrible lens or it had a $20 filter on it....