Author Topic: How McDonald's uses Photoshop to touch up their menu burgers (Read 21318 times)

gostwyck · « **Reply #25 on:** June 28, 2012, 18:29 »

Quote from: RacePhoto on June 28, 2012, 15:48

Then, why do they have soda machines removed from schools? Replace candy machines with fruit machines. Candy and soda pop has become contraband?

Why do they want to complain and regulate what a fast food restaurant serves? Now in New York they want to regulate how big of a cup of soft drink the quick marts, theaters and places can sell.

My point is, education and self responsibility. Not legal barriers, bans and stupid regulations.

You have absolutely no understanding how fantastically clever marketing, over several decades, by major fast food chains has totally changed the expectations and portion size of their customers. It's not an accident that people eat twice as much as they did 40 years ago in such places. They have been progressively incentivised to do so by 'better' offers, etc.

BBC2 are currently running a series called "THe Men Who Made Fat" which provides some of the detail;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01k0fs0

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #26 on:** June 28, 2012, 19:38 »

Quote from: gostwyck on June 28, 2012, 18:29

Quote from: RacePhoto on June 28, 2012, 15:48
Then, why do they have soda machines removed from schools? Replace candy machines with fruit machines. Candy and soda pop has become contraband?

Why do they want to complain and regulate what a fast food restaurant serves? Now in New York they want to regulate how big of a cup of soft drink the quick marts, theaters and places can sell.

My point is, education and self responsibility. Not legal barriers, bans and stupid regulations.

You have absolutely no understanding how fantastically clever marketing, over several decades, by major fast food chains has totally changed the expectations and portion size of their customers. It's not an accident that people eat twice as much as they did 40 years ago in such places. They have been progressively incentivised to do so by 'better' offers, etc.

BBC2 are currently running a series called "THe Men Who Made Fat" which provides some of the detail;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01k0fs0

Advertizing hasn't made me fat nor has it made me change my diet.

I eat Bacon, McD's burgers and just about anything else i want to because i can and it was no different for me 30-40 years ago because if they didn't sell super-sized i super-sized it my self by buying 2 or 3 french fries with a couple of regular cheeseburgers.

And if i ever do go back to NY again and they dont sell big gulps i will just buy more then one large drink in a bottle to take with me.

I am with RacePhoto on this, this stupid sheite has got to stop! We have the food police now telling people what to and not to eat.

The world is beginning to get to carried away with stupid sheite.

EDIT: To AddSugar is a killer my ashe look at man made sweeteners that are know to cause brain damage and or cancer.

RacePhoto · « **Reply #27 on:** June 28, 2012, 21:19 »

Well if you want the truth, getting older, my metabolism changed and I went from a "eat anything" little 165 pound piggy, to larger and now that I'm on some medications, I've passed into Whale fame (and I don't mean in casino terminology) I eat less, drink diet soda, walk, went low fat, and watch my weight. So far I've watched it go up 20 - 30 pounds. LOL

I blame forks and spoons mostly. Without those, I wouldn't be eating so much.

That and all my clothes shrunk in the closet over the Winter. Man, it's tough getting old around here.

I have to tie my hands behind my back at this stage or sit on them. No more food rants. (until next time it comes around) And guess what, I shop at Walmart and buy gasoline from BP. I'm just so evil! (donate to animal shelters, do charity volunteer work and support mission work to South America) But I confess, I eat chicken sandwiches and salads from the evil empire of McDonald's. So I'm just a horrid human being.

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #28 on:** June 28, 2012, 22:24 »

Quote from: RacePhoto on June 28, 2012, 21:19

Well if you want the truth, getting older, my metabolism changed and I went from a "eat anything" little 165 pound piggy, to larger and now that I'm on some medications, I've passed into Whale fame (and I don't mean in casino terminology) I eat less, drink diet soda, walk, went low fat, and watch my weight. So far I've watched it go up 20 - 30 pounds. LOL

I blame forks and spoons mostly. Without those, I wouldn't be eating so much.

That and all my clothes shrunk in the closet over the Winter. Man, it's tough getting old around here.

I have to tie my hands behind my back at this stage or sit on them. No more food rants. (until next time it comes around) And guess what, I shop at Walmart and buy gasoline from BP. I'm just so evil! (donate to animal shelters, do charity volunteer work and support mission work to South America) But I confess, I eat chicken sandwiches and salads from the evil empire of McDonald's. So I'm just a horrid human being.

Oh come on now you know you eat at all those other places like Wendy's, Arby's, B King, Chic Fillet (best chicken sandwich btw), Hardees and more.

And dont be blaming the forks because then you would be over at KFC, Popeye's or Bojangles.

cardmaverick · « **Reply #29 on:** June 29, 2012, 02:45 »

I've been working with meat recently. There is no way that burger, even if it's just seared lightly, will remain juicy looking. Give it a few minutes and all that nice looking juicy shine is dried up. Something has to be added. Most likely oil, corn syrup, or glycerin.

What law says they have to use real food? Lot's of cereal companies would be guilty of breaking it...

bizair · « **Reply #30 on:** June 29, 2012, 03:34 »

What I find amazing is how McD makes any money at all. So many people you meet claim that they would never eat in such establishments, would never let their kids in etc.. Do you think a few porkies are being told?

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #31 on:** June 29, 2012, 08:51 »

Quote from: cardmaverick on June 29, 2012, 02:45

I've been working with meat recently. There is no way that burger, even if it's just seared lightly, will remain juicy looking. Give it a few minutes and all that nice looking juicy shine is dried up. Something has to be added. Most likely oil, corn syrup, or glycerin.

What law says they have to use real food? Lot's of cereal companies would be guilty of breaking it...

The truth in advertising laws in the US at least state that the item being sold must be real. So if you are doing a hamburger the meat must be real.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #32 on:** June 29, 2012, 08:58 »

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 29, 2012, 08:51

Quote from: cardmaverick on June 29, 2012, 02:45
I've been working with meat recently. There is no way that burger, even if it's just seared lightly, will remain juicy looking. Give it a few minutes and all that nice looking juicy shine is dried up. Something has to be added. Most likely oil, corn syrup, or glycerin.

What law says they have to use real food? Lot's of cereal companies would be guilty of breaking it...
The truth in advertising laws in the US at least state that the item being sold must be real. So if you are doing a hamburger the meat must be real.

the meat from Mac ain´t real?

Mantis · « **Reply #33 on:** June 29, 2012, 19:12 »

Carls Jr. is much better tasting.....BY FAR

cardmaverick · « **Reply #34 on:** June 30, 2012, 00:07 »

Quote from: Mantis on June 29, 2012, 19:12

Carls Jr. is much better tasting.....BY FAR

+1

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #35 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:48 »

The double cheeseburger, Mcnuggets and fries are the best things that Micky D's has.

Chick Fillet has the best Chicken sandwich.

Subway doesn't know what a Sub is!

7-11 makes a decent pizza for the price.

cathyslife · « **Reply #36 on:** June 30, 2012, 12:39 »

Quote from: rimglow on June 21, 2012, 21:08

Lots of good tips in this thread!

There sure are!

I've done a hot dog, now I'm going to have to try the burger.

RacePhoto · « **Reply #37 on:** July 02, 2012, 01:55 »

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 29, 2012, 08:51

Quote from: cardmaverick on June 29, 2012, 02:45
I've been working with meat recently. There is no way that burger, even if it's just seared lightly, will remain juicy looking. Give it a few minutes and all that nice looking juicy shine is dried up. Something has to be added. Most likely oil, corn syrup, or glycerin.

What law says they have to use real food? Lot's of cereal companies would be guilty of breaking it...
The truth in advertising laws in the US at least state that the item being sold must be real. So if you are doing a hamburger the meat must be real.

Brings up some other past deceptions, not food. I thought amusing might be sporting goods products, marketed with the sponsors logo and name, when it was really some other company. Bowling balls were one until the PBA said the ball had to show the actual markings.

Everyone points out Photoshopping stand-in bodies onto famous heads. Movie posters and ads, they do this.

Look at the cracker packages or cereal boxes. "Product shown larger than actual size"

And my personal favorite, when a 16 oz box became a 15 oz box and is now a 14 oz box, and the box is the same size, but there's a label "settling may occur" or something about machinery packing, contents may not fill package. Yeah right, what it means is same box, we just give you less for the same price. Liquid laundry detergent is diluted with water so you get a gallon, but could have had the same soap in a quart bottle. Adding that water costs extra?

Oh and last of all. Low salt food, costs more than standard canned foods. Tell me if I have this right, it costs extra to NOT put something in, that's an additive, and not natural? Give me a break!

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #38 on:** July 02, 2012, 17:01 »

Quote from: RacePhoto on July 02, 2012, 01:55

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 29, 2012, 08:51
Quote from: cardmaverick on June 29, 2012, 02:45
I've been working with meat recently. There is no way that burger, even if it's just seared lightly, will remain juicy looking. Give it a few minutes and all that nice looking juicy shine is dried up. Something has to be added. Most likely oil, corn syrup, or glycerin.

What law says they have to use real food? Lot's of cereal companies would be guilty of breaking it...
The truth in advertising laws in the US at least state that the item being sold must be real. So if you are doing a hamburger the meat must be real.

Brings up some other past deceptions, not food. I thought amusing might be sporting goods products, marketed with the sponsors logo and name, when it was really some other company. Bowling balls were one until the PBA said the ball had to show the actual markings.

Everyone points out Photoshopping stand-in bodies onto famous heads. Movie posters and ads, they do this.

Look at the cracker packages or cereal boxes. "Product shown larger than actual size"

And my personal favorite, when a 16 oz box became a 15 oz box and is now a 14 oz box, and the box is the same size, but there's a label "settling may occur" or something about machinery packing, contents may not fill package. Yeah right, what it means is same box, we just give you less for the same price. Liquid laundry detergent is diluted with water so you get a gallon, but could have had the same soap in a quart bottle. Adding that water costs extra?

Oh and last of all. Low salt food, costs more than standard canned foods. Tell me if I have this right, it costs extra to NOT put something in, that's an additive, and not natural? Give me a break!

A bunch of this crap started when the Economy tanked!

It was a way for the product to make the company money while basically ripping off the consumer.

Pringles are now in two sizes because someone caught on to it!

The regular size is $1.50 and the other one they were trying to pass of is $1.00 but has less in it.

And did you know that Light spaghetti is the same as low salt that you are talking about! They charge you more because it says "Light" but read the box and you will find out it is the same as the other stuff the only thing difference is they tell you to cook it 5 minutes longer!

Makes it expand more so you are full faster and have ate less then the other spaghetti which would do the same thing if you cooked it longer.

Oh the things the sly companies will do to fatten their wallet.

RacePhoto · « **Reply #39 on:** July 03, 2012, 10:36 »

Light spaghetti, that's a new one. Just buy Vermicelli instead of that fat macaroni pasta and it cooks better, tastes better and it's what they really eat in Italy. (ask my relatives)

Hey, microwave popcorn. Three varieties of the same brand. Natural, Light Butter and Extra Butter. Guess what? The natural has more fat and calories than the light butter. It's all about marketing, kind of like "Organic" foods which are also unregulated and often have been grown with all kinds of things. What a crock, designed to fool the public into paying more for something that's supposed to be healthier and "natural". Oh and charging 30% more for that label. Free Trade is another lie label that's unregulated and means nothing. Or at least not what we are told it's supposed to mean.

Back to the subject, I went to Mickey D's the other night. Ordered two side salads. I could have bought a bag salad (oh that's right there's a hate campaign for bag salads too) and dropped the dressing in the fridge, just plain oil, nothing else. Nice $2 snack. Salads are one of the highest profit items at McDonald's. Not burger or fries or deep fried grease products (in natural, not animal fat BTW) but salads.

I may try to place two salads in a bowl and shoot it as a salad. Thanks for the ideas. Shooting fast food is fun and delicious? I won't claim it's making me rich. I also have been working on the portable lighting setup for shooting in restaurants. Getting better. Problem is, when I get done spending $200 on a way to shoot a grilled cheese at the hotel, I'll never make back the investment. There's no end to enjoyment and challenges however. So it's all worth it.

Filet of Fish Sandwich (real from a chain, only thing missing is the white paper wrapper and the golden arches logo) AKA Fish sandwich with tartar sauce on small plate

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic.mhtml?id=97768967

I was kind of disappointed that the bun had a dimple in it. I suppose I need to splurge and buy two or photoshop out the place where someone grabbed the "fishburger"? (battered fish patty made mostly from Alaskan pollock and/or hoki) I could also dress the cheese better. Since I don't work for the big Mc and I'm not directly marketing something, I can pretty much do anything I want and it's not deceptive advertising. Just mentioning, you can shoot fast food and have fun and eat it too?

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on July 02, 2012, 17:01

Quote from: RacePhoto on July 02, 2012, 01:55
Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 29, 2012, 08:51
Quote from: cardmaverick on June 29, 2012, 02:45
I've been working with meat recently. There is no way that burger, even if it's just seared lightly, will remain juicy looking. Give it a few minutes and all that nice looking juicy shine is dried up. Something has to be added. Most likely oil, corn syrup, or glycerin.

What law says they have to use real food? Lot's of cereal companies would be guilty of breaking it...
The truth in advertising laws in the US at least state that the item being sold must be real. So if you are doing a hamburger the meat must be real.

Brings up some other past deceptions, not food. I thought amusing might be sporting goods products, marketed with the sponsors logo and name, when it was really some other company. Bowling balls were one until the PBA said the ball had to show the actual markings.

Everyone points out Photoshopping stand-in bodies onto famous heads. Movie posters and ads, they do this.

Look at the cracker packages or cereal boxes. "Product shown larger than actual size"

And my personal favorite, when a 16 oz box became a 15 oz box and is now a 14 oz box, and the box is the same size, but there's a label "settling may occur" or something about machinery packing, contents may not fill package. Yeah right, what it means is same box, we just give you less for the same price. Liquid laundry detergent is diluted with water so you get a gallon, but could have had the same soap in a quart bottle. Adding that water costs extra?

Oh and last of all. Low salt food, costs more than standard canned foods. Tell me if I have this right, it costs extra to NOT put something in, that's an additive, and not natural? Give me a break!
A bunch of this crap started when the Economy tanked!

It was a way for the product to make the company money while basically ripping off the consumer.

Pringles are now in two sizes because someone caught on to it!

The regular size is $1.50 and the other one they were trying to pass of is $1.00 but has less in it.

And did you know that Light spaghetti is the same as low salt that you are talking about! They charge you more because it says "Light" but read the box and you will find out it is the same as the other stuff the only thing difference is they tell you to cook it 5 minutes longer!

Makes it expand more so you are full faster and have ate less then the other spaghetti which would do the same thing if you cooked it longer.

Oh the things the sly companies will do to fatten their wallet.

VB inc · « **Reply #40 on:** July 03, 2012, 12:44 »

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 30, 2012, 08:48

The double cheeseburger, Mcnuggets and fries are the best things that Micky D's has.

Chick Fillet has the best Chicken sandwich.

Subway doesn't know what a Sub is!

7-11 makes a decent pizza for the price.

I happen to like subway as they dont stack up their meats ridiculously high and have a lot of veggies in it. Thats a sensible sub to me. Im sure u prefer more meat.

We have too many overweight people with poor food choices that is causing our health care costs to sky rocket. Just goes to show that the average american doesn't have the best control of their diet. Part of that has to be based on marketing and big business.

As for your earlier post on the food police telling people what to eat or not. I think its messed up we have a profit based system which is encouraging companies to sell drinks with 100+ grams of sugar for pennies more. More sad is that the average consumer stays ignorant to this fact as long as their craving is fed.

They should post these signs http://www.sugarstacks.com/beverages.htm thats 186grams of sugar in a double big gulp! 744 calories. You still wont burn off those calories if you ran fast non stop for 45 mins.

Perry · « **Reply #41 on:** July 03, 2012, 13:06 »

I hate the provocative title on the article/vide (and this thread). There were just about 10 seconds of "Photoshop" in the video.

OM · « **Reply #42 on:** July 03, 2012, 18:00 »

Quote from: gostwyck on June 28, 2012, 18:29

Quote from: RacePhoto on June 28, 2012, 15:48
Then, why do they have soda machines removed from schools? Replace candy machines with fruit machines. Candy and soda pop has become contraband?

Why do they want to complain and regulate what a fast food restaurant serves? Now in New York they want to regulate how big of a cup of soft drink the quick marts, theaters and places can sell.

My point is, education and self responsibility. Not legal barriers, bans and stupid regulations.

You have absolutely no understanding how fantastically clever marketing, over several decades, by major fast food chains has totally changed the expectations and portion size of their customers. It's not an accident that people eat twice as much as they did 40 years ago in such places. They have been progressively incentivised to do so by 'better' offers, etc.

BBC2 are currently running a series called "THe Men Who Made Fat" which provides some of the detail;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01k0fs0

+1.
Excellent series too. Well worth watching.

Perry · « **Reply #43 on:** July 04, 2012, 03:59 »

Quote from: gostwyck on June 28, 2012, 18:29

You have absolutely no understanding how fantastically clever marketing, over several decades, by major fast food chains has totally changed the expectations and portion size of their customers.

I was on a trip to USA recently, and it was interesting to see that all the drinks were much larger in the US compared to Europe. A "Small" drink (coke, coffee...) was as big as a "medium" or "large" in Europe.

Still, I think it's every person's own responsibility to understand what and how much they are eating. I'm not a supporter of bans and regulations here. Children should be protected tho.

Btw, I liked Shake Shack burgers http://www.shakeshack.com/food-and-drink/

rubyroo · « **Reply #44 on:** July 04, 2012, 04:19 »

Yes, when I was in the US I remember being given a slice of pizza and thinking 'Blimey... that would feed three people back home!' Sure enough, I only managed a third of it... just couldn't continue beyond that point. The portions are astounding over there.

I agree with you though, other people's choices are none of my business. Life's tough enough without people who know nothing about your reality giving you lectures at every opportunity. The whole 'It takes a village to raise a child' thing really disturbed me. It doesn't take account of who actually lives in 'the village'. There were plenty of weirdos in the one I grew up in! Thankfully those were less intrusive times.

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #45 on:** July 04, 2012, 08:57 »

Quote from: VB inc on July 03, 2012, 12:44

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 30, 2012, 08:48
The double cheeseburger, Mcnuggets and fries are the best things that Micky D's has.

Chick Fillet has the best Chicken sandwich.

Subway doesn't know what a Sub is!

7-11 makes a decent pizza for the price.

I happen to like subway as they dont stack up their meats ridiculously high and have a lot of veggies in it. Thats a sensible sub to me. Im sure u prefer more meat.

We have too many overweight people with poor food choices that is causing our health care costs to sky rocket. Just goes to show that the average american doesn't have the best control of their diet. Part of that has to be based on marketing and big business.

As for your earlier post on the food police telling people what to eat or not. I think its messed up we have a profit based system which is encouraging companies to sell drinks with 100+ grams of sugar for pennies more. More sad is that the average consumer stays ignorant to this fact as long as their craving is fed.

They should post these signs http://www.sugarstacks.com/beverages.htm thats 186grams of sugar in a double big gulp! 744 calories. You still wont burn off those calories if you ran fast non stop for 45 mins.

Problem with Subway is and was that when they came out they were bragging about being like NY subs which they were so far away from it was a joke!

They had no idea how to make subs and cut the bread wrong and put the mayo or mustard on the top of all the fixings just before they wrapped it up and it was pathetic!

I asked a guy working there once to slice the bread open like a hotdog bun and then put the mayo on first and he had no idea how to cut the bread i had to show him how it was done!

And i lived in NY for many years and know how subs are done and if i am paying for a sub it better be worth it and the ones at subway arent sorry.

In NY they slice the bread then put on the mayo, mustard, oils and whatever then they hold the bread under the slicer and slice the meat right into the bun and ask if you want more then add the veggies of your choice to top it off and it usually weighs in around 2-3lbs all for the same price subway wants for a salad in bread as i would call it.

heywoody · « **Reply #46 on:** July 04, 2012, 14:28 »

With Pete & a few others on this. People don't get fat because of the type of food they eat, they get fat because of the amount they eat.

Quite partial to the occasional McD

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #47 on:** July 04, 2012, 17:29 »

Grab a big fat order of fresh MickyD's fries and an Ice Cream cone or a shake on a summer day.

Omnomnomnomnomnomnom

ShadySue · « **Reply #48 on:** July 04, 2012, 18:43 »

Quote from: rubyroo on July 04, 2012, 04:19

The whole 'It takes a village to raise a child' thing really disturbed me. It doesn't take account of who actually lives in 'the village'. There were plenty of weirdos in the one I grew up in! Thankfully those were less intrusive times.

Interesting; I grew up in a small village and the village which was raising its children kept an eye on any weirdos it had, assuming it must have had some. I always believed in that adage because of my experience growing up (if you were up to anything, your mother knew before you got home; if it was serious, you'd be stopped) but I also bow to your different experience.

RacePhoto · « **Reply #49 on:** July 04, 2012, 22:41 »

Quote from: heywoody on July 04, 2012, 14:28

With Pete & a few others on this. People don't get fat because of the type of food they eat, they get fat because of the amount they eat. Quite partial to the occasional McD

Yeah, that too. Some people just overeat and then make bad choices on top of that. But both matter. I just had two McChickens and two side salads from McDonald's. I stay away from burgers, even though I have nothing against a nice juicy red steak. Best pizza after the pepperoni is a California which is artichokes and veggies and no meat. I used to have Chinese at least twice a week and leftovers for lunch. I believe that was a healthful choice.

It's not an all or none, and some days I eat this, some days I eat that.

Normally I don't eat breakfast at all, maybe a breakfast bar and an apple or orange or banana.

Mostly I resent someone trying to legislate and ban things, instead of education and teach self reliance. Sure there are people who don't eat right and will be overweight. There are also people who have eating disorders, anorexia and the like. Are we going to hold them down and force them to eat?

So why remove foods from overweight people? Why ban foods from menus or schools? Are people such morons that they can't decide what to eat, on their own? Kind of invasive and presumptuous, to try to regulate others food choices or lives. I think people need to spend more time on their own matters and issues and less telling others what to do and how to live.

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