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« on: December 30, 2011, 19:11 »
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I do a google search on my name very month or so and today I came up with 2 different users with my pics in their Flickr stream. One of them has over 1000 images with many that I checked using google image search belong to lots of different photographers at shutterstock, 123rf and so on.......the other guy only has a little over 50 with 6 of them being mine.

You may want to see if any of yours are there...........I'll be sending a copyright notice to yahoo (flickr).

1000+ Large assortment styles and subject type
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64445673@N06/page10/

50+ Food Only
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28782207@N03/

-Don


« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 19:15 »
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curious:

How did they get them without any watermark!?

ShadySue

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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 19:57 »
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curious:

How did they get them without any watermark!?

You could lift them from a site which had legally bought them, but on such a big scale ... ?

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 19:59 »
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How did you find these pics by searching on your name.
(By which I mean, how was your name picked up?)
Oh, or maybe the two I happened to click on weren't yours?

« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 20:02 »
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I've been an avid reader at MSG for years but never have registered.  I just found one of my photos (after about a 5 second perusal) at this thief's Flickr account.  I just fired off an email to Yahoo (who handles Flickr image theft).  Thanks for the post!

« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 20:09 »
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Just found another image.  I should probably stop looking because what's the use of my blood pressure going up further?  Reported is reported.   :'(

ShadySue

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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 20:26 »
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curious:

How did they get them without any watermark!?

Is it possible (though unlikely) that they have actually paid for the images rather than simply stolen them?

« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 20:29 »
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Some have Shutterstock numbers on them (some in Spa series) , so I would guess he did purchase them, but I don't think that gives him the right to display them under his name, and allow others to freely download them and use them?

« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 20:30 »
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OY..just clicked on the gallery and saw more of my photos.  There is no image credit and there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the Flickr poster is not taking credit.

ShadySue

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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 20:31 »
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Some have Shutterstock numbers on them (some in Spa series) , so I would guess he did purchase them, but I don't think that gives him the right to display them under his name, and allow others to freely download them and use them?
No, but there's a (moot) difference between misuse and outright theft.
They're not being freely offered: they're marked as copyright all rights reserved, and right clicking is disabled. Of course they can still be screendumped.

« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2011, 20:32 »
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If you look at the upload dates, they appear to be the same for a certain photo category (with many images uploaded) on a given day.  I wonder if they are trying to get recognized by Getty?

« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2011, 20:34 »
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Some of them, if you right click to view other size, the other sizes aren't "right click protected" thus they could be downloaded

« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2011, 20:36 »
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I just was able to view one of my images at original size.  Maybe they did purchase them, but how they are re-posting them is wrong.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2011, 20:37 »
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OY..just clicked on the gallery and saw more of my photos.  There is no image credit and there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the Flickr poster is not taking credit.
I'm not saying what they're doing is right, obviously, but image credits may not always be required; e.g. on iStock they're only required if the photo is used editorially. Over half of those I've found via GIS are not credited: however, I have more pressing misuses I want them to deal with before I start on non-credited images.
And yes, the implication is that the photos are the work of the owner of the photostream.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2011, 20:38 »
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Some of them, if you right click to view other size, the other sizes aren't "right click protected" thus they could be downloaded
Oh, sorry, I just tried one and assumed they'd done a blanket protection as I did with my photostream.

« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2011, 21:11 »
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I just found a few that belong to someone I know. I will notify him.

So, if you guys have Flicker accounts why not just comment "Thief This Is Not Your Image" because that will attract attention if Flickr juts lollygags around in their usual do nothing style. Yet they are quick to suspend accounts of people who have done nothing wrong.

« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2011, 21:28 »
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The images of mine posted in the abuser's Flickr account are not on my Flickr account.

Edit to add that I did post something similar as a comment under my images.

« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2011, 22:02 »
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How did you find these pics by searching on your name.
(By which I mean, how was your name picked up?)
Oh, or maybe the two I happened to click on weren't yours?


I have my name in the exif data under the copyright section and when I did my search google it showed 2 links with
(EXIF | Close-up Of Mexican Pork Carnitas | Flickr - Photo Sharing!) as the link title and the same for the other except different title. So I went to the link and it showed my image with all the EXIF data, thought maybe flickr was using it as an example for exif, clicked the image and ended up at the persons stream and found more of my images.

I am figuring they lifted them from my zenfolio site since the exif data was still on the image. I am assuming that shutterstock and the others strip alll data out of the image, I could be wrong here.

here is the link from google...
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=%22lynn%20don%20bendickson%22&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F64445673%40N06%2F6159941104%2Fmeta%2F&ei=m3j-ToStGaPKiQKB4PnvDg&usg=AFQjCNGVvIwjIxpIxxoXFn6lJTBAKlk1Lw&sig2=QP4CAF-7QZx7WwDHZqv8MA&cad=rja

when you click on the link you end up at flickr and you see exif data on the right with all my copyright info. click the image and you go to the persons stream.

-Don

« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2011, 22:38 »
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I went and posted a few comments on my images at both streams like......."What camera did you use to capture this image with " on another "Nice image, did you take this photo"............see what kind of response I get.

-Don

« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2011, 22:47 »
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curious:

How did they get them without any watermark!?


Is it possible (though unlikely) that they have actually paid for the images rather than simply stolen them?


It looks to me like a designer's archive. It still doesn't give him the right to post them on Flickr. I've notified Shutterstock about both streams (and this one http://www.flickr.com/people/ecoagriculture/ which has one of mine and probably other people's, too)

RacePhoto

« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2011, 03:30 »
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curious:

How did they get them without any watermark!?


Is it possible (though unlikely) that they have actually paid for the images rather than simply stolen them?


It looks to me like a designer's archive. It still doesn't give him the right to post them on Flickr. I've notified Shutterstock about both streams (and this one http://www.flickr.com/people/ecoagriculture/ which has one of mine and probably other people's, too)


Strange that one looks like snapshots, people at conferences and local shots and a bunch of duplicates. But here's the part that was interesting if they have one of your photos up there: "Users are free to use these photos as long as they are credited to their respective photographers."

« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2011, 05:05 »
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Yes, I saw that. To be fair, they do have a note on at least some of the shutterstock photos they have there (including mine) saying "copyright restrictions prevent the public use of this image" which makes me wonder why they are publicly using it and why they include it in their "free stock" collection. It's here, and I've left them a little message: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ecoagriculture/2414593304/#

It's curious that they have access to my image but not, apparently, to my caption, since they have wrongly placed the scene as being in Malaysia when it's actually Sri Lanka.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2011, 06:38 »
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How did you find these pics by searching on your name.
(By which I mean, how was your name picked up?)
Oh, or maybe the two I happened to click on weren't yours?


I have my name in the exif data under the copyright section and when I did my search google it showed 2 links with
(EXIF | Close-up Of Mexican Pork Carnitas | Flickr - Photo Sharing!) as the link title and the same for the other except different title. So I went to the link and it showed my image with all the EXIF data, thought maybe flickr was using it as an example for exif, clicked the image and ended up at the persons stream and found more of my images.

I am figuring they lifted them from my zenfolio site since the exif data was still on the image. I am assuming that shutterstock and the others strip alll data out of the image, I could be wrong here.

here is the link from google...
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=%22lynn%20don%20bendickson%22&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F64445673%40N06%2F6159941104%2Fmeta%2F&ei=m3j-ToStGaPKiQKB4PnvDg&usg=AFQjCNGVvIwjIxpIxxoXFn6lJTBAKlk1Lw&sig2=QP4CAF-7QZx7WwDHZqv8MA&cad=rja

when you click on the link you end up at flickr and you see exif data on the right with all my copyright info. click the image and you go to the persons stream.

-Don


Thanks for the explanation. It's just that I have my name in all my EXIF files in the copyright section, and I can't find any of my own pics in Flickr by Googling my name. After c15 pages (it's an unusual name, but there are two prominent people who share it!) I gave up and tried "my name" Flickr and couldn't find any of my pics that way either, only links to my contacts' pages. I must be doing something wrong!

« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2011, 09:16 »
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How did you find these pics by searching on your name.
(By which I mean, how was your name picked up?)
Oh, or maybe the two I happened to click on weren't yours?


I have my name in the exif data under the copyright section and when I did my search google it showed 2 links with
(EXIF | Close-up Of Mexican Pork Carnitas | Flickr - Photo Sharing!) as the link title and the same for the other except different title. So I went to the link and it showed my image with all the EXIF data, thought maybe flickr was using it as an example for exif, clicked the image and ended up at the persons stream and found more of my images.

I am figuring they lifted them from my zenfolio site since the exif data was still on the image. I am assuming that shutterstock and the others strip alll data out of the image, I could be wrong here.

here is the link from google...
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=%22lynn%20don%20bendickson%22&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F64445673%40N06%2F6159941104%2Fmeta%2F&ei=m3j-ToStGaPKiQKB4PnvDg&usg=AFQjCNGVvIwjIxpIxxoXFn6lJTBAKlk1Lw&sig2=QP4CAF-7QZx7WwDHZqv8MA&cad=rja

when you click on the link you end up at flickr and you see exif data on the right with all my copyright info. click the image and you go to the persons stream.

-Don


Thanks for the explanation. It's just that I have my name in all my EXIF files in the copyright section, and I can't find any of my own pics in Flickr by Googling my name. After c15 pages (it's an unusual name, but there are two prominent people who share it!) I gave up and tried "my name" Flickr and couldn't find any of my pics that way either, only links to my contacts' pages. I must be doing something wrong!


Hi Sue

I also have always had the copyright info in my files but this is the 1st time I have found them via the EXIF  data.......It may be because I have my portfolio at my Zenfolio acct. and the EXIF data is intact there and the stock agencies most likely strip out that data. Also when I do a google search I put my name in quotes and also search different variations....first name, last name - middle name, last name - first, middle and last.....unfortunately at some agencies I used different variations of my name as I explained for my google search.

Well I am off to the higher elevations of the Sierra's with my dog in search some excellent still and video shots...learning to use my Nikon D7000 that I bought for video and my new Glidecam HD 1000 stabilizer and never without my trusty D700 for the stills.

-Don

« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2011, 16:25 »
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I sent a DMCA notice and they removed two of my images but his photo stream is still up, so I'm going to have to go through and search for more of my images.  Grrr.  Hello,

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Thank you for reporting this incident to Yahoo!. We have taken the
appropriate action.

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

Regards,

Copyright/IP Agent, Yahoo! Inc.


 

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