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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Photography Discussion => Topic started by: lagereek on October 10, 2011, 09:15
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This is an idea. How about negotiating percentage with say 3 or 4 agencies. The less agencies that house your pics, the more sales at the ones that does have your pics.
Now, forget 123, etc, thats just a flash in the pan, nothing else. The ones to concentrate on are ofcourse SS, DT and FT, opting your percentage at these 3, would make up for the others, and more.
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It's not a bad idea by itself, but looking at worsening situation, who's going to be willing to listen or even take it under consideration?
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It's not a bad idea by itself, but looking at worsening situation, who's going to be willing to listen or even take it under consideration?
The ones I have already mentioned ofcourse! its also in their interest. The less our images are spread out, all the better for the others.
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Or you could drop those agencies and negotiate with the others?
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Out of those 3, I only like SS. DT have the strange rejection policy that I have never understood and I have lost my enthusiasm with them. FT have cut commissions too much and I really wouldn't want to have them in a select group of sites. The last thing I want is to reward them for cutting my earnings. Veer might be a better option but they sell less at the moment.
If SS came up with a good exclusive images deal, I would be interested but otherwise, I'm going to carry on with lots of different sites.
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Out of those 3, I only like SS. DT have the strange rejection policy that I have never understood and I have lost my enthusiasm with them. FT have cut commissions too much and I really wouldn't want to have them in a select group of sites. The last thing I want is to reward them for cutting my earnings. Veer might be a better option but they sell less at the moment.
If SS came up with a good exclusive images deal, I would be interested but otherwise, I'm going to carry on with lots of different sites.
Never mind what you like, you have to go with the selling power, put personal feelings aside and think dollars.
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Never mind what you like, you have to go with the selling power, put personal feelings aside and think dollars.
If it's pure earnings power, then I'd have to include iStock. But, that negotiation ship set sail without me in 2010. Same with FT. There isn't too much negotiation to be done with SS. I assume they run some pretty tight margins.
That would leave just DT from your list to negotiate with, and I'm not sure they offer enough sales to go exclusive with. So, I'm not sure I get the point?
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Out of those 3, I only like SS. DT have the strange rejection policy that I have never understood and I have lost my enthusiasm with them. FT have cut commissions too much and I really wouldn't want to have them in a select group of sites. The last thing I want is to reward them for cutting my earnings. Veer might be a better option but they sell less at the moment.
If SS came up with a good exclusive images deal, I would be interested but otherwise, I'm going to carry on with lots of different sites.
Never mind what you like, you have to go with the selling power, put personal feelings aside and think dollars.
I think I'm more likely to go exclusive with istock :) Even if you can negotiate better terms with FT, will they stand by them? I really don't trust a site that has had so many commission cuts. This strategy doesn't appeal to me at all. I'm out.
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Maybe its better to start with small sites.
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Never mind what you like, you have to go with the selling power, put personal feelings aside and think dollars.
If it's pure earnings power, then I'd have to include iStock. But, that negotiation ship set sail without me in 2010. Same with FT. There isn't too much negotiation to be done with SS. I assume they run some pretty tight margins.
That would leave just DT from your list to negotiate with, and I'm not sure they offer enough sales to go exclusive with. So, I'm not sure I get the point?
Negotiate with IS ? are you kidding me? they wouldnt give you a penny for anything, have you forgotten they are migrating to TS? the biggest cheap-skate agency existing. You would be better off negotiating with Scrooge.
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Negotiate with IS ? are you kidding me? they wouldnt give you a penny for anything, have you forgotten they are migrating to TS? the biggest cheap-skate agency existing. You would be better off negotiating with Scrooge.
I guess that was my point. I didn't see an opportunity to really negotiate with any of the agencies you listed, so why bother. There are plenty of agencies that offer good deals already, but you don't want to talk about them or support them. You've created a Catch 22 for yourself.
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Negotiate with IS ? are you kidding me? they wouldnt give you a penny for anything, have you forgotten they are migrating to TS? the biggest cheap-skate agency existing. You would be better off negotiating with Scrooge.
I guess that was my point. I didn't see an opportunity to really negotiate with any of the agencies you listed, so why bother. There are plenty of agencies that offer good deals already, but you don't want to talk about them or support them. You've created a Catch 22 for yourself.
What are you talking about? catch22 ? I have created a bloody good deal for myself and thats free to anybody to do, BUT, you do have to have a cosiderable port or unique material, otherwise its pointless. This I did over a year back.
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What are you talking about? catch22 ? I have created a bloody good deal for myself and thats free to anybody to do, BUT, you do have to have a cosiderable port or unique material, otherwise its pointless. This I did over a year back.
OK. Now, I'm confused. Do you already have these deals? I thought this was a theory or hypothetical on how to make more. And my point was that I thought most of the larger agencies didn't give sweet heart deals anymore or it wouldn't be an option for most if not all contributors.
I apologize if my tone was a little harsh.
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What are you talking about? catch22 ? I have created a bloody good deal for myself and thats free to anybody to do, BUT, you do have to have a cosiderable port or unique material, otherwise its pointless. This I did over a year back.
OK. Now, I'm confused. Do you already have these deals? I thought this was a theory or hypothetical on how to make more. And my point was that I thought most of the larger agencies didn't give sweet heart deals anymore or it wouldn't be an option for most if not all contributors.
I apologize if my tone was a little harsh.
Thats OK, yes I already have these deals.
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What are you talking about? catch22 ? I have created a bloody good deal for myself and thats free to anybody to do, BUT, you do have to have a cosiderable port or unique material, otherwise its pointless. This I did over a year back.
OK. Now, I'm confused. Do you already have these deals? I thought this was a theory or hypothetical on how to make more. And my point was that I thought most of the larger agencies didn't give sweet heart deals anymore or it wouldn't be an option for most if not all contributors.
I apologize if my tone was a little harsh.
That contradicts the fact that you had your content on other, smaller sites like 123RF...
Thats OK, yes I already have these deals.
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Negotiate with IS ? are you kidding me? they wouldnt give you a penny for anything, have you forgotten they are migrating to TS? the biggest cheap-skate agency existing. You would be better off negotiating with Scrooge.
Funnily enough as an exclusive you get more from Scrooge at 0.40 for subs downloads than non-exclusives get from SS. If you look at overall percentages that are paid out for licensing content, IS is also significantly higher than SS, because it pays exclusive percentages on about half the sales.
SS have been smart in finding a formula, and not changing it once it worked, but in percentage terms, they're still the lowest paying agency amongst the top 4, which is how its been since they started.
DT and FT are the agencies that started with the premise that they paid more than the competition, but both started whittling back the percentages once they had enough content. FT is known for cutting special deals on ranking with some contributors, and who knows DT might do something as well, but its unlikely to be for everyone who asks.
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What are you talking about? catch22 ? I have created a bloody good deal for myself and thats free to anybody to do, BUT, you do have to have a cosiderable port or unique material, otherwise its pointless. This I did over a year back.
OK. Now, I'm confused. Do you already have these deals? I thought this was a theory or hypothetical on how to make more. And my point was that I thought most of the larger agencies didn't give sweet heart deals anymore or it wouldn't be an option for most if not all contributors.
I apologize if my tone was a little harsh.
No problem! I have deleted my entire portfolio at 123, mainly because of their automated reviewing system, can not separate a toned image from WB and rejecting images which have sold more then 2000 times with "no commercial value". Them guys must be smoking dope all day long.
That contradicts the fact that you had your content on other, smaller sites like 123RF...
Thats OK, yes I already have these deals.
No problem! I have deleted my entire portfolio at 123, mainly because of their automated reviewing system, can not separate a toned image from WB and rejecting images which have sold more then 2000 times with "no commercial value". Them guys must be smoking dope all day long.
Anyway, do you doubt people are making private deals? thats been going on for years.
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OK. I want 50% commission from Fotolia. That's my demand. Good for the industry. How about it then?
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Thats OK, yes I already have these deals.
I see. Congrats to you. I guess I may have to see at some point if I have any negotiating power (I'm doubting it). I don't remember hearing a lot of "no stop" when I left FT and IS anyway. I guess everyone has their own strategy though that works for them, and I'm not sure if mine includes negotiations.
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SS have been smart in finding a formula, and not changing it once it worked, but in percentage terms, they're still the lowest paying agency amongst the top 4, which is how its been since they started.
How do you work that out? I get about 30% from SS but only 18% from Istock. Istock are by far the lowest paying agency when compared directly to others on either exclusive or non-exclusive terms. The only difference with SS is that they don't have an exclusive option ... yet.
Instead of always trying to run down the competition to Istock you'd better start waking up to the fact that you've jumped on-board a sinking ship. They've run that ship into the rocks and my guess is that it won't be too much longer before you'll be begging SS & DT to rescue your portfolio earnings.
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SS have been smart in finding a formula, and not changing it once it worked, but in percentage terms, they're still the lowest paying agency amongst the top 4, which is how its been since they started.
How do you work that out? I get about 30% from SS but only 18% from Istock. Istock are by far the lowest paying agency when compared directly to others on either exclusive or non-exclusive terms. The only difference with SS is that they don't have an exclusive option ... yet.
Instead of always trying to run down the competition to Istock you'd better start waking up to the fact that you've jumped on-board a sinking ship. They've run that ship into the rocks and my guess is that it won't be too much longer before you'll be begging SS & DT to rescue your portfolio earnings.
I know this is off topic, but I agree with Holgs. SS pays less than the others. Even with On Demand, at the highest rate and with more EL's than the others, it still averages out to far less than most sites (per download) because of all the subs.
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I know this is off topic, but I agree with Holgs. SS pays less than the others. Even with On Demand, at the highest rate and with more EL's than the others, it still averages out to far less than most sites (per download) because of all the subs.
So what do you think "it averages out to" then? What information are you basing your guess on?
Back in 2004/5, when SS had been going for a few months, Oringer stated on the forum that SS were paying out between 36-40% in commissions on sub sales (if I remember the figures correctly). Don't forget that it was a relatively new business model and it relied on subscribers to not download their full entitlement to be profitable at all. It was a risk borne by SS. Since then SS has always had to tread the tightrope between paying high enough commissions to ensure contributors did not go exclusive with Istock whilst also remaining profitable.
Also remember that SS are probably paying out a 3c referral fee on most subscription sales in addition to the commission for the photographer. I only have one referral (my brother) who has a small portfolio but even so I've earned nearly $1K from his sales.
What about subscriber behaviour? To me it is conceivable that a subscriber might only download about 10 images a day, out of their allowance of 25, and probably few or none on weekends. Any fewer than that and the subscription would probably not be good value. All in all I'd guess that SS are probably averaging a bit more than 30% in commissions and referrals.
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Are they talking about average dollars per download, rather than percentage commission?
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Are they talking about average dollars per download, rather than percentage commission?
Holgs said "in percentage terms".
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I have no idea what percentage it works out to be, but I average about 50 cents per download at SS. In comparison, 123RF, DT and FT are all at around $1 per download and IS was at about $3. Sites like Clipartof and Graphic Leftovers average around $7.
Personally, I'd like to be at around $5 per sale for most sites at around 50% of the sale price. None of the top 4 offer even close to that, so it would be nice to be able to negotiate a better price. Unfortunately, I just don't see it happening, so I think the sites lower on the list are worth checking out.
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Holgs said "in percentage terms".
On just percentages, it's hard to say. My guess would be that IS averages between 20-25%, so I guess that theoretical number is less than SS theoretical 30%. ;D
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I thought IS stated their goal to be 20% average. I don't know if they have achieved that yet. SS is between 20 and 30% for the single sales I think, so the big mystery is the subs. I am guessing somewhere around 30% though. Only FT and IS make SS look good in the %age department.
SS does deliver the #s though, at least for me.
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No, as an individual, it is hard to cut deals, thats for sure. However, lets take a hypothetical situation, where 10 or 20, of us get together and present a deal as a group of photographers. We would have much more clout and selling power as a unanimous group and could get much more leverage, etc. We could offer a hell of a lot more, creating work for the future, etc.
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present a deal as a group of photographers
So what deal would you present? I would have thought that, unless you took something like the top 20 sellers, any group of 10 or 20 people leaving a big agency wouldn't even be noticed. There are tens of thousands of contributors, probably thousands attempting to join, 20 contributors would seem like a drop in the ocean I would have thought.
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present a deal as a group of photographers
So what deal would you present? I would have thought that, unless you took something like the top 20 sellers, any group of 10 or 20 people leaving a big agency wouldn't even be noticed. There are tens of thousands of contributors, probably thousands attempting to join, 20 contributors would seem like a drop in the ocean I would have thought.
Like I said, it was just a hypothetical number and situation, could be 1000 photographers, etc, etc. Look, you got to start somewhere, right, I mean your a Diamond and so am I, few years back one could just sit and relax, looking at the dollars floating in.
Times have changed, even for exclusives, the industry is on its way out, much thanks to scull-duggery from the Getty folks.
Anyway, you got a better idea? :)
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I'm not criticising your thinking, it's good to explore all options. Times have certainly changed and I'm exploring all sorts of options, and I'm not knocking your idea, just playing devil's advocate.
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I'm not criticising your thinking, it's good to explore all options. Times have certainly changed and I'm exploring all sorts of options, and I'm not knocking your idea, just playing devil's advocate.
Hi John!
Agreeing, all options and avenues need to be explored or else Im afraid we might find ourself in the dog house pretty soon.
best.
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Thinking things through is fine but you need the think it through properly, including looking at what would persuade a group of photograpers to come forward, what sanction they would impose if their collective demand wasn't met and what the reaction of the agencies would be. Remember that from these agencies' point of view making a concession is a dangerous precedent that threatens the bottom line, so they have a powerful incentive to resist pressure. Yuri can get away with it because iStock can claim that every independent with a million credits of sales a year is treated equally, and Deposit Photos can presumably say every diamond level submitter gets the same deal, so they escape from the risk of precedent. If you or I or 50 others like us make demands it would have far greater implications than a demand from Yuri.
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I've read with interest the discussion about percentages, but I tend to look at it from an activity and total numbers viewpoint. SS is the only site on which I have daily sales. I chose not to even apply for IS because of all the changes that have been unfavorable to contributors. Apparently it's a sinking ship. If I'm mistaken, I hope someone will let me know. I do have a modest collection of video clips there that still gets an occasional sale.
Nowadays, I only upload to SS (first priority), DT, FT, DP, and Veer. Not much activity at all on Veer, but I'm still evaluating. Not really thrilled by their month-long review time. I really like Alamy's model, but I've had only one sale there, so I can't devote a lot of time to it. The only reason I upload to different sites is because out of any batch, they will each reject different photos, and the entire batch ends up for sale among them. The bottom line is that, although SS may be lowest in terms of percentage, they are highest in terms of activity, sales, and real dollars (for me). I wish I could say that the result is a decent income, but I'm still working on that. The vast majority of my sales are 33-cent subs.
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As the old saying goes 'never say never' but I have it on good authority that none of the top microstock agencies strike deals when it comes to finances even for the top selling content producers, things are done to sweeten the upload process and certainly to get a bit more exposure (which obviously has slight financial implications) but nothing on the commission front. Hence all the top selling producers sell their stuff absolutely everywhere.
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As the old saying goes 'never say never' but I have it on good authority that none of the top microstock agencies strike deals when it comes to finances even for the top selling content producers, things are done to sweeten the upload process and certainly to get a bit more exposure (which obviously has slight financial implications) but nothing on the commission front. Hence all the top selling producers sell their stuff absolutely everywhere.
Correct! I also got that through the grapevine.
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As the old saying goes 'never say never' but I have it on good authority that none of the top microstock agencies strike deals when it comes to finances even for the top selling content producers, things are done to sweeten the upload process and certainly to get a bit more exposure (which obviously has slight financial implications) but nothing on the commission front. Hence all the top selling producers sell their stuff absolutely everywhere.
Correct! I also got that through the grapevine.
But before you wrote:
Thats OK, yes I already have these deals.
Can you please explain what deals you already have, even if it's not specific agencies, but what kind of deals, because you say you have some and then you say none of the top agencies make deals? I don't get it? Do you mean some smaller agencies have make some deals, but not financial? I'm lost.
And 123 has automated reviews, not humans? Can anyone confirm that's true? It could be the first one past rumors that actually tried to review by Bott. I'd agree, that's a poor move if they do.
My goal would be negotiate an exclusive with SS and be done with all the fooling around. Create, upload, collect the money. Thank You!
Oh that brings up another question.
Get Siteboost and see what you earn on SS. I run it in Chrome because of all the blockers for Flash and Scripts that I have on FF. No big deal and it works fine. Takes a few minutes to analyze all the data, but gives excellent results and information. http://351.pl/software/shutterstock-site-patch-update/ (http://351.pl/software/shutterstock-site-patch-update/)
"RPD total $ 0.38" and consider I'm the source. For people who haven't looked, my collection on SS is, in polite terms, weak. Getting better and improving, but nothing special. People with good collections and professional targeted Micro shots will do much better.
So the lame and lazy get a RPD of 38c, someone who's up into the third tier, over $3000 in sales, would be much higher. (my best guess) Anyone care to look and see?
And the point isn't always about percentages. If SS pays 20% and site X pays 80%, but site X gets one download a year, which is better? OK extreme, so how many downloads do you get on SS vs some of the low earners? That's right, which one pays more in bottom line! I don't eat percentages, don't cash them and they don't put food on the table or buy things. Dollars do!
What some people need to do is stop looking at stats and percentages and start looking at bottom line. An agency that doesn't make $120 a year isn't worth negotiating or uploading to. My personal view, but for $10 a month, I can ignore them and not blink or feel like I'm missing anything.
Bottom line of this whole point is, SS earns the most for the most people.
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No, as an individual, it is hard to cut deals, thats for sure. However, lets take a hypothetical situation, where 10 or 20, of us get together and present a deal as a group of photographers. We would have much more clout and selling power as a unanimous group and could get much more leverage, etc. We could offer a hell of a lot more, creating work for the future, etc.
Would you mind posting a link to your port somewhere. I'd like to see your work. You can send it Private if you want . I won't share it. I wanna see the portfolio thats good enough to get your own deal. Im not being facetious. Im really not. just between you and I.
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As the old saying goes 'never say never' but I have it on good authority that none of the top microstock agencies strike deals when it comes to finances even for the top selling content producers, things are done to sweeten the upload process and certainly to get a bit more exposure (which obviously has slight financial implications) but nothing on the commission front. Hence all the top selling producers sell their stuff absolutely everywhere.
Correct! I also got that through the grapevine.
But before you wrote:
Thats OK, yes I already have these deals.
Can you please explain what deals you already have, even if it's not specific agencies, but what kind of deals, because you say you have some and then you say none of the top agencies make deals? I don't get it? Do you mean some smaller agencies have make some deals, but not financial? I'm lost.
And 123 has automated reviews, not humans? Can anyone confirm that's true? It could be the first one past rumors that actually tried to review by Bott. I'd agree, that's a poor move if they do.
My goal would be negotiate an exclusive with SS and be done with all the fooling around. Create, upload, collect the money. Thank You!
Oh that brings up another question.
Get Siteboost and see what you earn on SS. I run it in Chrome because of all the blockers for Flash and Scripts that I have on FF. No big deal and it works fine. Takes a few minutes to analyze all the data, but gives excellent results and information. [url]http://351.pl/software/shutterstock-site-patch-update/[/url] ([url]http://351.pl/software/shutterstock-site-patch-update/[/url])
"RPD total $ 0.38" and consider I'm the source. For people who haven't looked, my collection on SS is, in polite terms, weak. Getting better and improving, but nothing special. People with good collections and professional targeted Micro shots will do much better.
So the lame and lazy get a RPD of 38c, someone who's up into the third tier, over $3000 in sales, would be much higher. (my best guess) Anyone care to look and see?
And the point isn't always about percentages. If SS pays 20% and site X pays 80%, but site X gets one download a year, which is better? OK extreme, so how many downloads do you get on SS vs some of the low earners? That's right, which one pays more in bottom line! I don't eat percentages, don't cash them and they don't put food on the table or buy things. Dollars do!
What some people need to do is stop looking at stats and percentages and start looking at bottom line. An agency that doesn't make $120 a year isn't worth negotiating or uploading to. My personal view, but for $10 a month, I can ignore them and not blink or feel like I'm missing anything.
Bottom line of this whole point is, SS earns the most for the most people.
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You dont read my posts properly ( happens all too often), do you really think anybody here exept maybe Yuri is going to cut a money-deal? no way in the world, firstly, our ports are not big enough, secondly, not unique enough.
No one here in this forum is ever going to be able to cut a money-deal and the reasons are obvious BUT, as already mentioned several times, there are other deals outside of money that one can make, deals which are very favourable and that will ease the whole process of micro.
Do I ever mention in any post here, that I have cut a more money-deal? NO! not once. You are rushing ahead, thinking all money, everything revolves around money, hey? thats basic thinking indeed.
As far as you cutting a deal with SS?, sorry mate, they dont need that, they got more then enough and they are not interested in exclusivity, so, good luck to that. :)
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I'd still Like to see your work Pls. Im just curious.
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I call shenanigans! ;D
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I'd still Like to see your work Pls. Im just curious.
Hi!
I have already mailed you my usernames at IS and SS. On your private mail that is. :)
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I call shenanigans! ;D
OK lagereek I'll try once again. What kind of deals have you cut! That's what I asked. You said you have deals and waved your hands around, saying this or that, not financial. Have some examples?
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I call shenanigans! ;D
OK lagereek I'll try once again. What kind of deals have you cut! That's what I asked. You said you have deals and waved your hands around, saying this or that, not financial. Have some examples?
Yeah, I bet you would. Your question is living proof of why agencies dont make money-deals, sooner or later, the photographer will spill the beans, like in a forum and all of a sudden all hell brakes lose.
How do you think it would look if I told you in a public forum? you have been around for some time and really should know better then asking such a question.
on another note! and a little tip. you want to cut some deal, well try the RM or RF sectors, much easier and more money.
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I call shenanigans! ;D
OK lagereek I'll try once again. What kind of deals have you cut! That's what I asked. You said you have deals and waved your hands around, saying this or that, not financial. Have some examples?
Yeah, I bet you would. Your question is living proof of why agencies dont make money-deals, sooner or later, the photographer will spill the beans, like in a forum and all of a sudden all hell brakes lose.
How do you think it would look if I told you in a public forum? you have been around for some time and really should know better then asking such a question.
on another note! and a little tip. you want to cut some deal, well try the RM or RF sectors, much easier and more money.
You said you have deals. I originally asked what kind of deals, no specific agencies or anything. Now around the fourth time, what kind of deals should people ask for or try to make? Or is this whole thread just a dance with no music or meaning.
Who started the thread anyway? Oh look, someone talking about negotiating and percentages. Would that be financial?
This is an idea. How about negotiating percentage with say 3 or 4 agencies. The less agencies that house your pics, the more sales at the ones that does have your pics.
Now, forget 123, etc, thats just a flash in the pan, nothing else. The ones to concentrate on are ofcourse SS, DT and FT, opting your percentage at these 3, would make up for the others, and more.
Talk about waffling and dodging!
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I call shenanigans! ;D
OK lagereek I'll try once again. What kind of deals have you cut! That's what I asked. You said you have deals and waved your hands around, saying this or that, not financial. Have some examples?
Yeah, I bet you would. Your question is living proof of why agencies dont make money-deals, sooner or later, the photographer will spill the beans, like in a forum and all of a sudden all hell brakes lose.
How do you think it would look if I told you in a public forum? you have been around for some time and really should know better then asking such a question.
on another note! and a little tip. you want to cut some deal, well try the RM or RF sectors, much easier and more money.
You said you have deals. I originally asked what kind of deals, no specific agencies or anything. Now around the fourth time, what kind of deals should people ask for or try to make? Or is this whole thread just a dance with no music or meaning.
Who started the thread anyway? Oh look, someone talking about negotiating and percentages. Would that be financial?
This is an idea. How about negotiating percentage with say 3 or 4 agencies. The less agencies that house your pics, the more sales at the ones that does have your pics.
Now, forget 123, etc, thats just a flash in the pan, nothing else. The ones to concentrate on are ofcourse SS, DT and FT, opting your percentage at these 3, would make up for the others, and more.
Talk about waffling and dodging!
Good! lets leave it at this, shall we. Had you been a bit friendlier in your tone I might have helped you.
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I thought I posted it here, but I guess it was in the Fotolia thread.
Anyhow, check out this thread
http://www.microstockgroup.com/new-sites-general/new-site-checklist-what-to-look-for-when-signing-to-a-new-site/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/new-sites-general/new-site-checklist-what-to-look-for-when-signing-to-a-new-site/)
which will send you to Yuri's and Lee's site and info on negotiating deals and what you can or can't get.
On lee's list (http://www.microstockdiaries.com/how-to-negotiate-with-new-microstock-agencies.html) he has...
Bulk submission
Blanket Acceptance
Exclusion from Subscription
Matching Rank Levels
No Upload Limits
Higher Royalty Rates
Prepaid Royalties
Search Results Boost
Exposure
I don't think he pulled those out of a hat, I'm pretty sure he talked to someone (agency or contributer) who has had a deal like he mentioned. The only perks where I don't know someone personally who has such a deal with an agency is exclusion from subs, prepaid royalties and exposure. Those would be pretty easy to negotiate though so I don't find those items surprising at all. An no, like Lee put in his blog post (which is very relevant to this thread and spot on), I don't know anyone who has those deals with the top 4 agencies but starting in the middle tier and below there are for sure deals made and one or more benefits from the list.
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Deposit Photos invites established contributors to contact them to get special treatment, including improved search position. I suppose if you apply for that and get accepted you could claim to have "negotiated a deal".
I imagine "better commissions" would be for anyone who could get a promoted ranking from the start. I don't see how "prepaid commisssions" are even possible, since the sales are an unknown.
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Thread locked and many posts removed.
We need to respect each other in what we post, insulting or calling out another user is NOT ok.