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Title: Upscaling with AI older jpegs - before or after workflow
Post by: MicroVet on November 11, 2023, 05:08
Hi.

The title basically says all. Is it better to upscale older and lower resolution jpeg images before working on them, or go through the workflow of an image and upscale with AI after all is done? Can't find any discussion about this.

I guess that upscaling before the workflow would give the AI software more detail to work on than on a finished product where noise removal software would already been applied.

On the other hand, working and finishing the image before would make the AI Upscaler to process only what is relevant and reduce the chances of it confusing noise for detail, and thus produce a cleaner result.

Does anyone have any experience with this?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Upscaling with AI older jpegs - before or after workflow
Post by: Big Toe on November 11, 2023, 10:51
I was always under the impression that most agencies do not allow upscaling. Am I mistaken there or has this changed with AI?
Title: Re: Upscaling with AI older jpegs - before or after workflow
Post by: dk on November 11, 2023, 11:06
Edit your image and then upscale it. After upscale it is an illustration with details filled in by AI and any major color changes will result in break-up of gradients, shadows etc.
Title: Re: Upscaling with AI older jpegs - before or after workflow
Post by: Her Ugliness on November 11, 2023, 12:32
I was always under the impression that most agencies do not allow upscaling. Am I mistaken there or has this changed with AI?

First time I am hearing of this. Upscaling was never a problem to my knowledge.
Title: Re: Upscaling with AI older jpegs - before or after workflow
Post by: ole999 on November 11, 2023, 14:04
I was always under the impression that most agencies do not allow upscaling. Am I mistaken there or has this changed with AI?

Upscaling is just making your image larger. Never been a problem - if the resolution is good enough.
Title: Re: Upscaling with AI older jpegs - before or after workflow
Post by: MicroVet on November 11, 2023, 15:20
I was always under the impression that most agencies do not allow upscaling. Am I mistaken there or has this changed with AI?

Agencies don't like upscaled images because they always sold upscaled versions themselves. Just check the sizes the agencies allow for sale and you'll discover that on many of them there are sizes bigger than the original file you've submitted. At least they used to do this.
Title: Re: Upscaling with AI older jpegs - before or after workflow
Post by: ole999 on November 11, 2023, 16:41
I was always under the impression that most agencies do not allow upscaling. Am I mistaken there or has this changed with AI?

Upscaling is just making your image larger. Never been a problem - if the resolution is good enough. Have been used since the beginning of photography.
Title: Re: Upscaling with AI older jpegs - before or after workflow
Post by: cascoly on November 12, 2023, 04:55
I was always under the impression that most agencies do not allow upscaling. Am I mistaken there or has this changed with AI?

Upscaling is just making your image larger. Never been a problem - if the resolution is good enough. Have been used since the beginning of photography.

i use topaz giga ai to upscale - it does more than just make a bigger picture.

i've been working thru my older images - both scanned slides & early digital. i use topaz photo ai, then upscale if needed. only other work needed is occ'l minor rotation  for horizon. 

results have been almost always accepted
Title: Re: Upscaling with AI older jpegs - before or after workflow
Post by: SuperPhoto on November 12, 2023, 06:48
If you need to edit an older image, I'd do this:

a) Upscale the image to start. (Easier to edit)
b) Do your edits.
c) "Downscale" it (makes it look more high quality)
d) Re-upscale it. ('Blends' anything together at the smaller scale).