Author Topic: What is this antique agricultural machine called? (Read 7749 times)

Semmick Photo · « **on:** April 04, 2015, 16:15 »

What is this antique agricultural machine called?

Thanks lads and lasses,

Happy Easter

objowl · « **Reply #1 on:** April 04, 2015, 16:22 »

Quote from: Semmick Photo on April 04, 2015, 16:15

What is this antique agricultural machine called?

Thanks lads and lasses,

Happy Easter

Scrap.

sorry, just thought I'd get that one out of the way.

Semmick Photo · « **Reply #2 on:** April 04, 2015, 16:23 »

Haha, good one, I will put that in the keywords, thanks !

ShadySue · « **Reply #3 on:** April 04, 2015, 16:32 »

Cultivator.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=antique+cultivator&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=RVggVeK4DYSdsgGjxIPQDA&ved=0CCEQsAQ&biw=1472&bih=743

Ariene · « **Reply #4 on:** April 04, 2015, 16:32 »

Tedder, hay tedder, haymaking?
Digger machine?

Semmick Photo · « **Reply #5 on:** April 04, 2015, 16:44 »

Yeah, thats very close to what it can be, thanks.

No Free Lunch · « **Reply #6 on:** April 04, 2015, 16:47 »

where is Uncle Pete when we need him- I will email him since I know he will know for sure

Semmick Photo · « **Reply #7 on:** April 04, 2015, 16:48 »

Its horse drawn, thats for sure

Ariene · « **Reply #8 on:** April 04, 2015, 17:00 »

Ron, did you move to the countryside?

Semmick Photo · « **Reply #9 on:** April 04, 2015, 17:18 »

Ha, no, well, Ireland is one big countryside, but this was my trip to the south of France last year. Midi-Pyrenees and Parc naturel regional des Pyrenees ariegeoises.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #10 on:** April 04, 2015, 18:39 »

Without seeing the back, I couldn't tell. And if it's something not for farming in the US, it could be different design also.

Looks kind of like a hay rake (which would have longer tines that are curved), but maybe a potato rake?

Hey, I'm in Wisconsin, but I'm not a farmer...

Sure I recognize a spike tooth harrow or sheepsfoot tamper, but there's all kinds of things that are just rusty old equipment and I haven't got a clue.

Quote from: No Free Lunch on April 04, 2015, 16:47

where is Uncle Pete when we need him- I will email him since I know he will know for sure

No Free Lunch · « **Reply #11 on:** April 04, 2015, 19:10 »

Here is a potato machine

https://www.google.com/search?q=horse+potato+rike+for+harvesting&biw=1920&bih=943&tbm=isch&imgil=h7VHC5s17f23dM%253A%253BhLTqMHVgzGbWgM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fseldomseensheep.tripod.com%25252Fmorganfamilypioneerheritage%25252Fid173.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=h7VHC5s17f23dM%253A%252ChLTqMHVgzGbWgM%252C_&usg=__bdJ-vfC7C8CBFTqfkuq7RlEJbAA%3D&ved=0CCkQyjc&ei=OH0gVcLiENHnoATQ94H4DA#imgrc=h7VHC5s17f23dM%253A%3BhLTqMHVgzGbWgM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fseldomseensheep.tripod.com%252Fsitebuildercontent%252Fsitebuilderpictures%252Fpotatodiggerhorse.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fseldomseensheep.tripod.com%252Fmorganfamilypioneerheritage%252Fid173.html%3B800%3B490

noodle · « **Reply #12 on:** April 04, 2015, 21:10 »

Prototype rickshaw

SnowDog · « **Reply #13 on:** April 04, 2015, 21:24 »

Interesting. It has a gear mechanism that will cause the spring loaded fingers on the arms to move back-and-forth. The lever on the left (looking at the image) allows you to set the height of the arms. The tines (fingers) don't look strong enough to dig anything, so I'm assuming it's a very early prototype version of a rake. As someone who grew up on a farm, it's a crappy design. I can see why it was never a commercial success. Might be the only one ever made.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #14 on:** April 05, 2015, 01:43 »

It looks as if there is an off-centre linkage to the wheel hub, which would create a tossing motion from the spring-loaded tines (which are facing the wrong way to dig anything) so my guess would be that it is for turning rows of hay to dry them.
Just found this "hay tosser" would this be it?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ei9hk_tony_cork_ie/1483218178/

It deserves to be cleaned up and used as a museum piece, anyway.

Oh - look - his next image is a closeup of the museum description of it (and this one is from Ireland, too): https://www.flickr.com/photos/ei9hk_tony_cork_ie/1482362191/in/photostream/
It did the work of at least six men (and the museum one was in use for 66 years) so it's hardly a failed design.

And here's a video of one in action at some sort of farm show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sV82f1EOAg

Difydave · « **Reply #15 on:** April 05, 2015, 09:49 »

I'm going to the pub tonight, and I'll bet if I ask there'll be someone in there who has either used one, or who has one in the back of a shed!
I've got the mower to go with it down the field here holding the brambles up!

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #16 on:** April 05, 2015, 12:10 »

Quote from: Difydave on April 05, 2015, 09:49

I'm going to the pub tonight, and I'll bet if I ask there'll be someone in there who has either used one, or who has one in the back of a shed!
I've got the mower to go with it down the field here holding the brambles up!

More than likely. When I bought a croft it came with a mildly fire-damaged late 19th Century binder hidden in the back of a barn (which is why I was intrigued by this one). There must be a lot of old stuff hidden away. That stuff really was built to last.

Difydave · « **Reply #17 on:** April 05, 2015, 12:28 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on April 05, 2015, 12:10

Quote from: Difydave on April 05, 2015, 09:49
I'm going to the pub tonight, and I'll bet if I ask there'll be someone in there who has either used one, or who has one in the back of a shed!
I've got the mower to go with it down the field here holding the brambles up!
More than likely. When I bought a croft it came with a mildly fire-damaged late 19th Century binder hidden in the back of a barn (which is why I was intrigued by this one). There must be a lot of old stuff hidden away. That stuff really was built to last.

Yes, this mower here is well past it's sell by date. beyond repair I'd say. I should sell it really as a antique! It looks as if it's been used behind a tractor at some time though, as does the "cultivator" that's also here which looks as if it was originally made to be winched by a steam engine. Think roughly triangular frame of big wrought iron bar, couple of iron wheels and big tines wedged into brackets.
It's amazing what does turn up though. Farmers never throw anything away!

Holmes · « **Reply #18 on:** April 06, 2015, 02:11 »

hay kicker

Semmick Photo · « **Reply #19 on:** April 06, 2015, 02:13 »

Wow. what a nice discussion this turned out to be. Thanks guys, I enjoyed reading this thread. I am impressed by the knowledge on display here. I have the GPS coordinates of the machine, so if anyone wants to buy it, let me know, so you can travel there. Its in the south of France so.

JPSDK · « **Reply #20 on:** April 06, 2015, 15:26 »

We had these machines here also ( in Denmark, before ww2).
They are ment to lift up hay, so that air could come underneath and they work best if the hay yeild is good so there is a heavy load to lift, or kick, and if the hay is loose and intangled in itsellf, like if there are many small wines in it.
and hay would be heavy if it has been rained upon, so in wet climates they have a point.
A drawback is that they kick the flowers (?) of the grass and all the nutricients goes to waste.
So call it a hay turner, hay lifter or something, it must have had a name in English, as it had in Danish: " høvender".

JPSDK · « **Reply #21 on:** April 06, 2015, 15:31 »

BTW, its horse driven, you can see that on the long shaft. Its meant to be drawn by a pair of horses. But many of these machines were converted to tractor, and worked just as well.

Semmick Photo · « **Reply #22 on:** April 06, 2015, 15:32 »

That seems to be it Jens, yeah, I know its horse drawn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpgM4ngTx_k

JPSDK · « **Reply #23 on:** April 06, 2015, 15:35 »

Quote from: Semmick Photo on April 06, 2015, 15:32

That seems to be it Jens, yeah, I know its horse drawn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpgM4ngTx_k

Exactly. When I see it I remember that I have seen those machines in use. After a grey ferguson back in 1963 or something.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #24 on:** April 06, 2015, 16:41 »

Quote from: JPSDK on April 06, 2015, 15:35

Quote from: Semmick Photo on April 06, 2015, 15:32
That seems to be it Jens, yeah, I know its horse drawn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpgM4ngTx_k

Exactly. When I see it I remember that I have seen those machines in use. After a grey ferguson back in 1963 or something.

Lovely little tractors the grey Fergusons. I had a three-cylinder MF35 from 1958 which was totally reliable (despite the reputation of the 3-cyl model as being hard to start), that was pretty much the next generation after the greys, I think. It cost me £300 in about '86 and I sold it for more a few years later when I sold up and moved on.

Semmick Photo · « **Reply #25 on:** April 07, 2015, 05:24 »

Approved yesterday, sold today

Difydave · « **Reply #26 on:** April 07, 2015, 05:58 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on April 06, 2015, 16:41

Quote from: JPSDK on April 06, 2015, 15:35
Quote from: Semmick Photo on April 06, 2015, 15:32
That seems to be it Jens, yeah, I know its horse drawn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpgM4ngTx_k

Exactly. When I see it I remember that I have seen those machines in use. After a grey ferguson back in 1963 or something.

Lovely little tractors the grey Fergusons. I had a three-cylinder MF35 from 1958 which was totally reliable (despite the reputation of the 3-cyl model as being hard to start), that was pretty much the next generation after the greys, I think. It cost me £300 in about '86 and I sold it for more a few years later when I sold up and moved on.

Yes, they're the generation on from the Fergie. I had one of those. Nice condition it was too, TVO / Petrol. I wasn't using it so I sold it.
Diesel 35 though if I ever get another.
Still see people using 35s down here in Cornwall. Small fields. They're ideal for small farming.

Quote from: Semmick Photo on April 07, 2015, 05:24

Approved yesterday, sold today

Nice!

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