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Title: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: adijr on March 24, 2010, 17:49
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0aEp1oDOI[/youtube]
pretty cool that they are finally putting it into photoshop :)
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: elvinstar on March 24, 2010, 23:38
Wow, it looks like magic!
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: Graffoto on March 25, 2010, 00:31
Looks interesting, but if that's the only BIG change from CS4, I'll be sticking to what I have now.
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: adijr on March 25, 2010, 01:08
Looks interesting, but if that's the only BIG change from CS4, I'll be sticking to what I have now.

nah, I think they're just displaying examples of new features, like they did with content-aware rescaling.
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on March 25, 2010, 10:47
scaring... think about watermarks removal
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: adijr on March 25, 2010, 11:03
scaring... think about watermarks removal

oh my that's brilliant!
The technology is new in photoshop but its certainly not new in research circles, so that makes you wonder how much
those watermarks have been holding. I guess they should put a few forensics algos in photoshop now, or we'll all be
using errorlevelanalysis.com soon...
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: RacePhoto on March 25, 2010, 11:27
Looks interesting, but if that's the only BIG change from CS4, I'll be sticking to what I have now.


If you follow the many YouTube clips they have released shots of many enhancements that are useful. Brush tips selection, color select improvements, content aware re-scaling, smart object removal, easy horizon correction, panorama completion (missing parts), more.

http://cs5launch.adobe.com/ (http://cs5launch.adobe.com/)  Live webcast launch.
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: louoates on March 25, 2010, 11:46
As far back as Version 5 there's been a healthy debate about whether it's worth it or not to upgrade. IMHO it always has and will also be this time. What's the alternative?
I often speak to other photographers who still use V6 or V7 and who are oblivious to the time saving and really fun features we enjoy daily.
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: epantha on March 25, 2010, 11:50
I have CS3 right now. This new feature alone would convince me to upgrade to CS5 once I start making some money freelancing. :)
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: louoates on March 25, 2010, 12:14
 Any photographer who sees the demo on content-aware fill and doesn’t salivate needs to be checked by a mental health professional.
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: sharpshot on March 25, 2010, 12:59
Any photographer who sees the demo on content-aware fill and doesn’t salivate needs to be checked by a mental health professional.
Looks like I need checking :)  I would be interested if photoshop was $100 but I would much rather buy a new lens or camera than pay for a program.  I enjoy taking photos more than editing them.  Elements and a few free plugins is all I need.
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on March 25, 2010, 13:16
Any photographer who sees the demo on content-aware fill and doesn’t salivate needs to be checked by a mental health professional.

I'll believe it when I can actually see the pixels of the results.  Tell me the blades of grass match up, or the noise in the sky blends, etc. and then I'll think about an upgrade.
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: adijr on March 25, 2010, 14:56
Any photographer who sees the demo on content-aware fill and doesn’t salivate needs to be checked by a mental health professional.

I'll believe it when I can actually see the pixels of the results.  Tell me the blades of grass match up, or the noise in the sky blends, etc. and then I'll think about an upgrade.

That's a good point, perhaps this won't be stock-quality... But from an algorithm point of view, I don't see why it shouldn't be.. and in the worst case, why you couldn't augment it with very little work to make sure the fix is stock quality. Either way it  will be a quick fix in many situations...

Thanks for the case link RacePhoto.

adijr
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: louoates on March 25, 2010, 17:02
I am most interested in that fill feature for my landscape photography, not just for stock. I'm also sure that I will need to "touch up" details. But for me, that fill feature would be worth the upgrade just for the landscape side of my business.
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: lisafx on March 25, 2010, 17:49
I agree it looks pretty cool, but Sean's right, hard to tell how good a job it did. 

I shoot mainly people, not landscapes, but it might come in handy for removing logs from tricky areas or taking out background wrinkles, etc.  Definitely makes it worth considering. 
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: Lizard on March 25, 2010, 18:53
Any photographer who sees the demo on content-aware fill and doesn’t salivate needs to be checked by a mental health professional.

I'll believe it when I can actually see the pixels of the results.  Tell me the blades of grass match up, or the noise in the sky blends, etc. and then I'll think about an upgrade.

Yap Im thinking the same , if i had to bet I would put my money that removing large objects will leave problematic areas fully visible at 100% of large photos , that it will leave some kind or too regular background patterns
that will not look natural (like on grass ) , so after u use that u will need additional work with clone and heal brushes , the question is only how much work.  The good things it that the new tool will probably give
way better starting point and save some time , especially on simple backgrounds like clear sky etc ..
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: Phil on March 25, 2010, 20:25
Any photographer who sees the demo on content-aware fill and doesn’t salivate needs to be checked by a mental health professional.

I'll believe it when I can actually see the pixels of the results.  Tell me the blades of grass match up, or the noise in the sky blends, etc. and then I'll think about an upgrade.

yes, i'm dubious (for 100% view), but then healing brush works well a lot of the time.
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: Phil on March 25, 2010, 20:31
As far back as Version 5 there's been a healthy debate about whether it's worth it or not to upgrade. IMHO it always has and will also be this time. What's the alternative?
I often speak to other photographers who still use V6 or V7 and who are oblivious to the time saving and really fun features we enjoy daily.

for home / non commercial use, I'd probably alternate upgrades.
But in each version there is a few things that I really quickly get used to (like masking options, click on image and adjust curves etc etc in cs4) and think it is worth the upgrade for those few little extras (Just bought cs4 at work this week (gee that was well timed :)) because cs3 at work and cs4 at home was annoying when missing those little cs4 things)
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: Dreamframer on March 26, 2010, 03:00
I'm worried too about watermark removal, especially because it's possible to make a script to stitch peaces of zoomed image and to download a full size. Now it will be very easy to remove watermarks.
One firefox addon does this with images from Istockphoto. It's made to zoom and stitch full size images on Istock. There is it   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/12958
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: Albert Martin on March 26, 2010, 14:23
I don't need this... I am photographer and not designer... I do all my stuff in RAW processing and after that all my images get accepted ;-)

Well... For some cloning out which might be needed sometimes, GIMP is more than enough for the money it costs!
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: KB on March 26, 2010, 16:01
It's even more powerful than first shown:
More Photoshop CS5 Content-Aware Sneak Peak Awesomeness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScWu7pG7r0&feature=player_embedded#normal)

 ;D
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: Beach Bum on March 26, 2010, 16:50
It's even more powerful than first shown:
More Photoshop CS5 Content-Aware Sneak Peak Awesomeness ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScWu7pG7r0&feature=player_embedded#normal[/url])

 ;D


That's hilarious!
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: Dreamframer on March 26, 2010, 18:17
:D
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: FD on March 27, 2010, 09:52
It's even more powerful than first shown:More Photoshop CS5 Content-Aware Sneak Peak Awesomeness
 ;D
Hahahahaha. And he even used CS2 to do it.
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: Jonathan Ross on March 27, 2010, 09:55
Hi All,

 The cool part is you always get a 30 day trial for free to see if it meets your needs. I will definitely check it out.

Best,
Jonathan
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: Whiz on March 28, 2010, 18:07
For those of you who use GIMP, this is already available: http://o3.tumblr.com/post/470608946/photoshops-caf-content-aware-fill-unbelievable (http://o3.tumblr.com/post/470608946/photoshops-caf-content-aware-fill-unbelievable)

I am not sure how it compares to the Photoshop filter, but it is free.
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: adijr on April 01, 2010, 22:35
For those of you who use GIMP, this is already available: [url]http://o3.tumblr.com/post/470608946/photoshops-caf-content-aware-fill-unbelievable[/url] ([url]http://o3.tumblr.com/post/470608946/photoshops-caf-content-aware-fill-unbelievable[/url])

I am not sure how it compares to the Photoshop filter, but it is free.


I couldn't get this to work very well (as in, the results aren't that great...). Does anyone have any other experience?
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: FD on April 02, 2010, 00:42
I am still waiting for the microstock-aware fill where I select the whole workspace by CTRL-A, then let it synthesize an istock-aware image with the exact feathering and no pixel distortions, and a shutterstock-aware fill with no shadows. Of course, the image should be unique and very salable. I don't mind if it's slow. I can always have a beer while waiting.  8)
Title: Re: Content-aware "fill" in next photoshop
Post by: adijr on April 02, 2010, 12:59
I am still waiting for the microstock-aware fill where I select the whole workspace by CTRL-A, then let it synthesize an istock-aware image with the exact feathering and no pixel distortions, and a shutterstock-aware fill with no shadows. Of course, the image should be unique and very salable. I don't mind if it's slow. I can always have a beer while waiting.  8)

Hm, why didn't I think of that? Seriously. Starting up MATLAB...