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« on: January 04, 2018, 02:00 »
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3d illustrations - Sales are very low
10000+ images total  , i have been constantly uploading 3d generic guy images every month in the year 2016 , at that time sales are about averaging  15-25 per day , Who are the buyers of these kind of illustration ? ,  . if i could know the buyers i think i can make something better  for them  8)

after i stopped uploading sales are dropping to  10-20 sales per month every month .
 
leaving the fact that there are several errors or mistakes in illustrations  , i know somebody in this forum itself told that it could most probably earn up to $100  per month  , when i  asked about the earning potential of these kind of renders  , i have models as a assets with me , should i continue to make these renders again ,  ?  ::) i,m again in a dilemma  :)

any constructive criticism are  welcomed :)



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« Last Edit: January 05, 2018, 11:59 by illustrator »


« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2018, 04:59 »
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I think the white generic 3d guy (sometimes he's orange or blue) is becoming more and more of a clich in microstock. And 3d renders like these start to feel a little bit dated, perhaps.

On a technical level I think the white model is a bit too blobby. His head seems disfigured and the way he is holding the shopping cart looks strange.


« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2018, 05:03 »
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Agreed.  The modeling isn't very attractive.  The shopping cart doesn't look like a shopping cart.  You didn't take the time to deform the bag in the cart.  And the posing needs work.

Your derivitives are more interesting, but I don't see much use for them.

illustrator

« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2018, 05:28 »
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I think the white generic 3d guy (sometimes he's orange or blue) is becoming more and more of a clich in microstock. And 3d renders like these start to feel a little bit dated, perhaps.

On a technical level I think the white model is a bit too blobby. His head seems disfigured and the way he is holding the shopping cart looks strange.

thanks for your suggestion

Ok , but there were sales upon that images on 2016 , overall the amount where pretty low on whole , i,m afraid that if i do improvements on these scenes and render again the money making scenario would be equal to the past .   :)
Noedelhap do you know where these are  used , i have sales ranging from 10-25 per day , i don,t know where this is used , may be for employees in corporate,s ?

Whats about backgrounds or seamless patterns like these




« Last Edit: January 05, 2018, 21:42 by illustrator »

« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2018, 05:39 »
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Well, the person who started making those anonymous white renders (or at least the best) was a microstock top seller for years. Probably made quite a bit of money.

Simply copying that concept isn't likely to be anywhere near as successful... It just looks like an off-brand copy. You have to come up with something of your own.

illustrator

« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2018, 05:45 »
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Agreed.  The modeling isn't very attractive.  The shopping cart doesn't look like a shopping cart.  You didn't take the time to deform the bag in the cart.  And the posing needs work.

Your derivitives are more interesting, but I don't see much use for them.

thanks for your suggestion

yes , if i  manages to composite a very special one and upload , the earnings are dropping from the day after tomorrow itself  :(

"Your derivitives are more interesting, but I don't see much use for them"

why ? does it because of the colours i used or the style ?   

seamless patterns have demand ?

« Last Edit: January 05, 2018, 21:42 by illustrator »

illustrator

« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2018, 05:45 »
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Well, the person who started making those anonymous white renders (or at least the best) was a microstock top seller for years. Probably made quite a bit of money.

Simply copying that concept isn't likely to be anywhere near as successful... It just looks like an off-brand copy. You have to come up with something of your own.

Yes , i do want to create the best out of it , that,s why i,m asking out here :( &
when i does the earnings are dropping to the bottom end , can,t even survive with it . and in order to experiment with anything one need to understand the buyer ,



i made out something not caught in my eyes anywhere but in my point of view these can be used in blogs and internet .
« Last Edit: January 05, 2018, 00:01 by illustrator »

« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2018, 05:55 »
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I think the white generic 3d guy (sometimes he's orange or blue) is becoming more and more of a clich in microstock. And 3d renders like these start to feel a little bit dated, perhaps.

On a technical level I think the white model is a bit too blobby. His head seems disfigured and the way he is holding the shopping cart looks strange.

Ok , but there were sales upon that images on 2016 , overall the amount where pretty low on whole , i,m afraid that if i do improvements on these scenes and render again the money making scenario would be equal to the past .   :)
Noedelhap do you know where these are  used , i have sales ranging from 10-25 per day , i don,t know where this is used , may be for employees in corporate,s ?

Whats about backgrounds or seamless patterns like these

I've seen the 3d generic guy (not yours) on websites and in powerpoint presentations.

The first seamless pattern looks like a cheap MSPaint illustration.
The second one looks like the ribbon is made from plastic.
The third one, I have no idea what I'm looking at. But I don't think there's any commercial value.

illustrator

« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2018, 06:01 »
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I think the white generic 3d guy (sometimes he's orange or blue) is becoming more and more of a clich in microstock. And 3d renders like these start to feel a little bit dated, perhaps.

On a technical level I think the white model is a bit too blobby. His head seems disfigured and the way he is holding the shopping cart looks strange.

Ok , but there were sales upon that images on 2016 , overall the amount where pretty low on whole , i,m afraid that if i do improvements on these scenes and render again the money making scenario would be equal to the past .   :)
Noedelhap do you know where these are  used , i have sales ranging from 10-25 per day , i don,t know where this is used , may be for employees in corporate,s ?

Whats about backgrounds or seamless patterns like these

I've seen the 3d generic guy (not yours) on websites and in powerpoint presentations.

The first seamless pattern looks like a cheap MSPaint illustration.
The second one looks like the ribbon is made from plastic.
The third one, I have no idea what I'm looking at. But I don't think there's any commercial value.

 :'( , third one is traffic cones , & the first one is not cheap , its a seamless pattern of a doodle of a handled megaphone  8)
« Last Edit: January 04, 2018, 06:05 by illustrator »

illustrator

« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2018, 06:31 »
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overall is it better to create vector illustrations that tells a story or a meaning , emotions  , rather than this ?
like this ,  i have made some sketches  .




« Last Edit: January 04, 2018, 10:31 by illustrator »

niktol

« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2018, 07:43 »
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I hate doing this, but dude...

You gotta take some serious classes, and I mean from professionals. Perhaps extra focus on drawing the human form if that's what you wanna do, because d@mn... That's all I can say.

illustrator

« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2018, 07:57 »
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I hate doing this, but dude...

You gotta take some serious classes, and I mean from professionals. Perhaps extra focus on drawing the human form if that's what you wanna do, because d@mn... That's all I can say.

learning while working would be more preferable for me  :) any suggestions please ?

« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2018, 09:48 »
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I hate doing this, but dude...

You gotta take some serious classes, and I mean from professionals. Perhaps extra focus on drawing the human form if that's what you wanna do, because d@mn... That's all I can say.

learning while working would be more preferable for me  :) any suggestions please ?
If you're making vectors for stock you have to make them of interest to as many potential buyers as possible, stock imagery being all about volume of sales. You have to think how many potential buyers will need a man in a children's playground with a monkey on his back whilst he takes a selfie, and at the same time a woman behind him does something, I'm not sure what, shields her face? How many buyers will need this particular scenario? It doesn't help that the figures aren't convincing at this stage either.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2018, 09:50 by john_woodcock »

illustrator

« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2018, 10:00 »
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I hate doing this, but dude...

You gotta take some serious classes, and I mean from professionals. Perhaps extra focus on drawing the human form if that's what you wanna do, because d@mn... That's all I can say.

learning while working would be more preferable for me  :) any suggestions please ?
If you're making vectors for stock you have to make them of interest to as many potential buyers as possible, stock imagery being all about volume of sales. You have to think how many potential buyers will need a man in a children's playground with a monkey on his back whilst he takes a selfie, and at the same time a woman behind him does something, I'm not sure what, shields her face? How many buyers will need this particular scenario? It doesn't help that the figures aren't convincing at this stage either.

thanks for your suggestion

actually this is a very rough sketch kind of , sorry  bad sketch  , i was brainstorming for a illustration  , at last i decided to go up with a woman is showing anger while a young playful adult is getting a selfie with a monkey   

and does it work if i draw a vector a day ( i mean for the masses 8) ) and make minor changes to it to compete with the volume .

example :
« Last Edit: January 05, 2018, 21:41 by illustrator »

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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2018, 11:28 »
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"Please give me advice so I can argue with you and ignore what you're saying."

illustrator

« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2018, 11:52 »
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"Please give me advice so I can argue with you and ignore what you're saying."

hi, shelma1 ,
 
i,m seeking out for some clues or experiences that could help with my daily working routine in order to create illustrations that could satisfy me as well as a potential buyer :)
« Last Edit: January 04, 2018, 12:04 by illustrator »

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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2018, 23:51 »
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I hate doing this, but dude...

You gotta take some serious classes, and I mean from professionals. Perhaps extra focus on drawing the human form if that's what you wanna do, because d@mn... That's all I can say.


learning while working would be more preferable for me  :) any suggestions please ?

You can take life drawing classes in your community. Usually free to low cost. Can find them in universities, colleges and museums. Probably other places too. Basically it consists of gesture drawing sessions followed by more intense studies of human bodies via models. Sometimes studies of skeletons, animals and other objects are studied also.
Gesture drawing sessions are basically quick studies of movement. Very important since this is a great way of giving you confidence, loose and quick drawings. You can think of it as the foundation for your drawings so you can add details to it later, with confidence.  :)


namussi

« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2018, 05:01 »
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"a woman is showing anger while a young playful adult is getting a selfie with a monkey"

Ask yourself: why would a designer need that illustration?   

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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2018, 07:15 »
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"a woman is showing anger while a young playful adult is getting a selfie with a monkey"

Ask yourself: why would a designer need that illustration?

To use as an illustration in a book on making money from selling stock 3D illustrations. Specifically the chapter on what sells and what doesn't... no prizes for guessing which column this one goes in.

It is a bit worrying if that's what you came up with when brainstorming content that might be in high demand. Just off the top of my head... the first thing I thought of was a guy sleeping in bed and you can see loads of cash stuffed under his mattress. That could appeal to anyone writing an article about lack of confidence in the banking system, bank closures and bailouts etc.

How about someone with a shopping cart jammed full of milk and bread which people can use any time there's panic buying, the same for cars nose to tail at the pump due to fuel shortages... some tropical location covered in snow to represent crazy weather patterns... some fat cats in human clothing to represent 'fat cats'... someone buying alcohol/smokes/medicine/transport with bars of gold to represent excessive price hikes... someone charging an electric car etc etc

Not exactly award winning ideas, I just made them up, but I'm pretty confident they'll sell better than a woman showing anger while a young playful adult is getting a selfie with a monkey.

niktol

« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2018, 07:43 »
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Not exactly award winning ideas, I just made them up, but I'm pretty confident they'll sell better than a woman showing anger while a young playful adult is getting a selfie with a monkey.

That's where good keywording and an accurate title become extremely important. Otherwise, just by looking at it, it's pretty much impossible to figure out what's going on. Could it be a metaphor for a ruined marriage in Costa Rica? A gentle concern for a supernova explosion? A social commentary on the Japanese sex doll market?

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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2018, 08:05 »
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Not exactly award winning ideas, I just made them up, but I'm pretty confident they'll sell better than a woman showing anger while a young playful adult is getting a selfie with a monkey.

That's where good keywording and an accurate title become extremely important. Otherwise, just by looking at it, it's pretty much impossible to figure out what's going on. Could it be a metaphor for a ruined marriage in Costa Rica? A gentle concern for a supernova explosion? A social commentary on the Japanese sex doll market?
Hahaha.  All I could think of was the woman was angry about the monkey being used as a 'tourist trap'.

illustrator

« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2018, 11:30 »
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"a woman is showing anger while a young playful adult is getting a selfie with a monkey"

Ask yourself: why would a designer need that illustration?

I try to illustrate the theme " the kid in you " i try to convince this showing the opposite .

what about creating illustrations based on
holidays and events in order
« Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 11:33 by illustrator »

illustrator

« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2018, 11:45 »
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"a woman is showing anger while a young playful adult is getting a selfie with a monkey"

Ask yourself: why would a designer need that illustration?

To use as an illustration in a book on making money from selling stock 3D illustrations. Specifically the chapter on what sells and what doesn't... no prizes for guessing which column this one goes in.

It is a bit worrying if that's what you came up with when brainstorming content that might be in high demand. Just off the top of my head... the first thing I thought of was a guy sleeping in bed and you can see loads of cash stuffed under his mattress. That could appeal to anyone writing an article about lack of confidence in the banking system, bank closures and bailouts etc.

How about someone with a shopping cart jammed full of milk and bread which people can use any time there's panic buying, the same for cars nose to tail at the pump due to fuel shortages... some tropical location covered in snow to represent crazy weather patterns... some fat cats in human clothing to represent 'fat cats'... someone buying alcohol/smokes/medicine/transport with bars of gold to represent excessive price hikes... someone charging an electric car etc etc

Not exactly award winning ideas, I just made them up, but I'm pretty confident they'll sell better than a woman showing anger while a young playful adult is getting a selfie with a monkey.

thanks for the suggestions ,  can anybody survive in any stock sites without volume while producing the above mentioned kind of illustration in a appealing manner

, what about the themes in the monthly contest assignments by dreamstime  ?
« Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 12:17 by illustrator »

niktol

« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2018, 11:57 »
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thanks for the suggestions , and can anybody survive in any stock sites without volume while producing the above mentioned kind of illustration in a appealing manner

yes, you can survive with a small portfolio, but not likely with this kind of illustrations. As a point of reference, I consider 10000 a big port. A small port is something in the vicinity of 500-1000.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 11:59 by niktol »

illustrator

« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2018, 12:10 »
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thanks for the suggestions , and can anybody survive in any stock sites without volume while producing the above mentioned kind of illustration in a appealing manner

yes, you can survive with a small portfolio, but not likely with this kind of illustrations. As a point of reference, I consider 10000 a big port. A small port is something in the vicinity of 500-1000.

:) thanks  , what about the themes in the monthly contest assignments by dreamstime  ?
« Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 12:16 by illustrator »


 

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