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Title: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: madelaide on May 13, 2006, 22:53
I've been using Exifer to copy EXIF data from original digital images to the edited ones.

As Exifer also has the ability to edit IPTC data and I can save data to a file to use in another (e.g. my name and copyright notice) and as most stock photo sites read IPTC data, I started using it to include descriptions and keywords, which I can copy to the other files in the same series.

However, Exifer doesn't let me change the order of the keywords, so if I want to include a very important keyword in the top of the current keyword list, for its relevance, I can't.  A few sites don't care about the keyword order, but many do.

Does anyone use another software that has these abilities I'm looking for? Basically I mean to save EXIF and IPTC data to use in other files and be able to edit keyword list not only adding and removing keywords, but also resorting them.

Regards,
Adelaide
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Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: leaf on May 14, 2006, 02:50
imatch is a pretty good program.  You can add keywords to a number of images at once, and do a billion other things. It is more a image management program with a good keywording system built in.  It might be overkill if you only want it for keywording though.
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: GeoPappas on May 14, 2006, 05:50
Irfanview is FREE and can do most of what you want.
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: leaf on May 14, 2006, 06:05
Pixvue also looks pretty good (http://www.pixvue.com/product/index.html)
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: CJPhoto on May 14, 2006, 06:29
Pixvue also looks pretty good ([url]http://www.pixvue.com/product/index.html[/url])


Pixvue is good (i use it) but sorts words into alphabetical order (and removes duplicates)

I thought only Fotolia looks at the words at the top.  What are the others.
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: madelaide on May 15, 2006, 16:12
I thought only Fotolia looks at the words at the top.  What are the others.
I guess that all that do not resort your keywords alphabetically consider the given order? I have never tried myself, but I've seen people talking about it in site fora - I can't remember which, certainly not Fotolia because I don't participate much there.  Dreamstime and CanStock perhaps?

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: fintastique on May 17, 2006, 11:47
Do any of these programs allow you to type in a whole string of keywords or are they all like the exifer and photoshop you type in a keyword and click on "add" (just I am very right handed typing and clicking with my right hand so having to switch from the keyboard to the mouse slows down my stream of consciousness).

That why I persisted in using keywords in EXIF format for so long though only 3 sites pick them up DT, PSM and Gimme

I hope keyword order/ keyword weighting is not important at Dreamstime as I have noticed their latest idea add 10 keywords to an uploaded file and earn 2c so basically the only way to make this worth while is to copy and paste the same 10 vague to similar files, someone hit my images of Edinburgh castle
http://www.dreamstime.com/edinburghcastleatdusk-image556794

Its not hard to spot the additions, some people must have too much time on their hands or are desperately close to that $100 payout to bother. the only problem this will probably cause some rather random similar images to aopear with the new tenous keywords.


 
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: CJPhoto on May 17, 2006, 11:54
pixvue lets you add multiple words separated by commas.  It then puts them in order and removes duplicates (though not plurals - not that I would remove them anyway).

I think the 10 keywords for 2c is just to qualify.  It is easy to add one but if you go to the effort to add 10 good ones, then you deserve a whole 2 cents.
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: GeoPappas on May 17, 2006, 16:46
Do any of these programs allow you to type in a whole string of keywords or are they all like the exifer and photoshop you type in a keyword and click on "add" (just I am very right handed typing and clicking with my right hand so having to switch from the keyboard to the mouse slows down my stream of consciousness).

IrfanView allows you to add strings of keywords in any order you like, separated by anything you like.
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: madelaide on May 17, 2006, 20:15
IrfanView has some limitations though, compared to Exifer.  I can save data in Exifer to use in another image and I can copy EXIF data (for instance, from original JPEG to edited JPEG).  Two very interesting features for me (though the latter is not a problem, I think, for Photoshop users).

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: fintastique on September 03, 2007, 05:27
I know this is a really old thread but I was updating my microstock guide and I noticed the websites for the IPTC editors irfanview and pixvue are no longer active  ???

Exifer is still going strong but I was never keen on it  are there any other free IPTC editors out there?
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: Freezingpictures on September 03, 2007, 05:59
Fintastique, the Microsoft Info tool is great, you can also edit several files at once.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/prophoto/photoinfo.mspx
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: null on September 03, 2007, 21:21
However, Exifer doesn't let me change the order of the keywords, so if I want to include a very important keyword in the top of the current keyword list, for its relevance, I can't.  A few sites don't care about the keyword order, but many do.


Exactly!

I wrote a script for that myself, and a few people are using it already.
It's on FlemishTagger (http://www.flemishdreams.com/tag/).

It has spellcheck, templates, dupes removal, and of course reordering. I'm not pushing my site at all. It just costs me bandwidth.
I use it together with Irfanview.

Exifer is, I found out, unreliable since it can screw up your photos.
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: null on September 03, 2007, 21:24
Exifer is still going strong but I was never keen on it  are there any other free IPTC editors out there?


FlemishTagger (http://www.flemishdreams.com/tag/).

It has spellcheck, templates, dupes removal, and of course reordering. I'm not pushing my site at all. It just costs me bandwidth. I use it together with Irfanview,which never screwed up my photos, while Exifer did.
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: yingyang0 on September 03, 2007, 21:35
I just use Adobe Bridge, but it doesn't have spell check.
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: null on September 04, 2007, 05:38
I just use Adobe Bridge, but it doesn't have spell check.

Correct, plus I guess you can't set separators, at least not newlines. Many sites require different types of separators (Flickr e.g. wants a newline). That's why I wrote my script for in the first place.
Title: Re: A substitute for Exifer?
Post by: PhotoLabourer on February 21, 2011, 07:09
As an alternative to Exifer, I suggest you to try the famous Exif Tool by Phil Harvey (http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/). It's completely free, multiplatform, and open source.

I also do recommend this batch Exif remover (http://www.superutils.com/products/exifcleaner/), to get rid of photographic metadata before publishing photos publicly on the web (on social nets/flickr, etcetera)