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Ron

« on: October 02, 2013, 11:07 »
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Whooohooo, just got accepted into ImageBrief. Legend. Another step in my photography career. Just one year ago I was rejected. Improvement is key.


Uncle Pete

« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2013, 11:23 »
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6-D and the 24-70 didn't hurt you either.  8)

Whooohooo, just got accepted into ImageBrief. Legend. Another step in my photography career. Just one year ago I was rejected. Improvement is key.

mlwinphoto

« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2013, 11:26 »
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An interesting concept.....the more alternatives to the traditional stock agency the better.

Hope it works out.

« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2013, 11:45 »
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Whooohooo, just got accepted into ImageBrief. Legend. Another step in my photography career. Just one year ago I was rejected. Improvement is key.

I'm in there too.  Really surprised how many new things they put up a day.

Ron

« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2013, 11:52 »
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Whooohooo, just got accepted into ImageBrief. Legend. Another step in my photography career. Just one year ago I was rejected. Improvement is key.

I'm in there too.  Really surprised how many new things they put up a day.

I have no idea if I ever get to shoot anything they need, but it wouldnt hurt to be part of it. Exposure counts as well.

How do you fare there?

« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2013, 11:56 »
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Whooohooo, just got accepted into ImageBrief. Legend. Another step in my photography career. Just one year ago I was rejected. Improvement is key.

I'm in there too.  Really surprised how many new things they put up a day.

I have no idea if I ever get to shoot anything they need, but it wouldnt hurt to be part of it. Exposure counts as well.

How do you fare there?

I've only put up one shot specifically from them and 2 from my library so far, and they haven't ended.

« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2013, 12:05 »
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wow - there is some really good work on that site. Well done on getting accepted Ron.

And look - it's Rights Managed only.

Ron

« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2013, 15:24 »
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I noticed its RM, but thats fine. So I cant use my RF work, but I just so happen to have two images for a brief that just came in. LOL. A red haired woman looking like 1960s. Not submitted anywhere.

« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2013, 15:39 »
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Thanks for telling us about the site Ron. Just joined up and accepted too. It all seems very friendly and relaxed and I am looking forward to reading the daily briefs and learning a bit more about it all. They certainly seem to have a lot going on.

Ron

« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2013, 16:19 »
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I am already submitting my 3rd brief. Yeah it seems like a pleasant site. I wanted to get in a year ago, but didnt make it. This time I have lot better images and I have sent them a link to my Symbiostock site and got accepted this time around. I guess they liked what they saw, at least thats what they told me ;-)

I never have shot typical stock, at least not the majority. It seems that going my own way is starting to get me some results, well at least some artistic satisfaction. LOL

Thank you for the kind words.

« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2013, 17:48 »
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tried many "briefs" and never had success, I don't think they enjoy pictures already on stock agencies, it's just a cool idea but in fact it's like winning the lottery ;D

Ron

« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2013, 18:03 »
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My images are either on Alamy as RM, or Exclusive to IB. I am not submitting any RF so far. They specifically request RM. We'll see.

« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2013, 18:14 »
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My images are either on Alamy as RM, or Exclusive to IB. I am not submitting any RF so far. They specifically request RM. We'll see.

every time I entered a brief they never asked me RF or RM, if it is RM that is fine, anyway it's like I have said, it's very hard to win a "sale" there, best of luck!

Ron

« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2013, 18:21 »
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By uploading images I confirm:

I own the rights to the images, or I have permission from the copyright holder to upload these images.
The images are Rights-Managed and not available elsewhere as Royalty-Free.

Ed

« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2013, 19:14 »
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I've submitted to briefs (when my images qualify) for about two years...I have yet to license an image through them.

Apparently, there are some that have success.  Their latest blog post tells you how to make $10,000 through them....good luck!

« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2013, 21:08 »
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Yeah, nothing that is RF anywhere else.

« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2013, 23:27 »
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Their latest blog post tells you how to make $10,000 through them....good luck!

smoke and mirrors.

you could probably buy the whole agency for 100K $.


« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2013, 03:53 »
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I submitted to several briefs and have had a number of images shortlisted. In my experience, briefs tend to sit in limbo for an eternity - which means your images are tied up with Image Brief rather than earning their keep elsewhere. Communication from Image Brief is generally very poor. My enthusiasm for Image Brief wore off pretty quickly and I know others who feel the same.

Ron

« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2013, 04:35 »
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You can retract submissions, no?

Ron

« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2013, 04:48 »
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Isnt it funny though, that every initiative is turned into a negative?

Symbiostock, Stocksy, ImageBrief, PicturEngine, etc etc, there is nothing save from being hammered on MSG.

Ugh.

« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2013, 05:01 »
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Isnt it funny though, that every initiative is turned into a negative?

Symbiostock, Stocksy, ImageBrief, PicturEngine, etc etc, there is nothing save from being hammered on MSG.

Ugh.

not our fault if the industry is dominated by Getty, IS, and SS.

these newcomers have just no chance, it's too late now, and they've no money either to make a dent in the industry.

it seems they all downplay how much difficult and expensive it the stock industry, i think it's one of the most difficult nowadays to get the foot in the door.

« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2013, 06:13 »
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You can retract submissions, no?

Yes, but it makes no sense to retract a submission that has been shortlisted...

Ron

« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2013, 06:33 »
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You can retract submissions, no?

Yes, but it makes no sense to retract a submission that has been shortlisted...

Makes sense, but a brief has an end date if I am correct. They last for a few days, and when the dead line has passed you can retract your images. But I am to new to be sure. Thanks for the heads up anyways.

« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2013, 06:44 »
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Ron, honestly...some of the briefs rumble on for months and months. Particularly the ones for book jackets.

« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2013, 06:47 »
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Isnt it funny though, that every initiative is turned into a negative?

Symbiostock, Stocksy, ImageBrief, PicturEngine, etc etc, there is nothing save from being hammered on MSG.

Ugh.

that is not correct, we are mainly saying that it is one in a million that have the luck to license a picture there, not even going  to write a line about PE

Dan

« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2013, 07:41 »
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well  done  Ron

« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2013, 10:21 »
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Well done Ron, I had never heard of them before - hope it is successful for you


« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2013, 10:31 »
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Well done Ron, I had never heard of them before - hope it is successful for you

x2

let us know how it goes.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2013, 10:50 »
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Well done Ron, I had never heard of them before - hope it is successful for you

x2

let us know how it goes.
Yes, best wishes, but haven't there been sites working like this before?
Or was that just for designers?

Ron

« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2013, 11:17 »
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Thank you guys, its appreciated. We'll how it goes, and if its nothing at least I will have images I can sell as RM elsewhere, so nothing lost.

« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2013, 11:25 »
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I have submitted to countless briefs and been shortlisted many times over the last year, but never made a sale. Hope you have more luck!

« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2013, 11:26 »
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Something I was wondering and cannot find the answer to: is it RM exclusive or can we submit stuff which we are offering RM (non exclusive) at Alamy ? Are the clients always going to be looking for an exclusive period of use ?

I do not know of a way of instantly suspending an image at Alamy for the duration of an exclusive use somewhere else.

Ron

« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2013, 11:29 »
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As far as I know, its not exclusive, its RM only, not RF elsewhere. It doesnt exclusively. I tried to find a contributor FAQ but there only is a buyer FAQ

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2013, 11:33 »
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Something I was wondering and cannot find the answer to: is it RM exclusive or can we submit stuff which we are offering RM (non exclusive) at Alamy ? Are the clients always going to be looking for an exclusive period of use ?

I do not know of a way of instantly suspending an image at Alamy for the duration of an exclusive use somewhere else.

You can't.
All you can do is remove all the keywords so it can't be searched/found.
That doesn't prevent someone who may have earmarked the file earlier from buying it, and that's why the 6 month 'hold' is part of the contract.

I'd imagine at the sort of sums pics are sold for there, they'd be hoping for some sort of exclusivity, but you could hopefully find out, because you can definitely disable licensing options at Alamy - geographic, sales category etc, but again that wouldn't stop someone who has already earmarked the file from buying it, AIUI.

« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2013, 11:33 »
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bhr: in that situation, you could Contact Alamy's Member Services to tell them situation and see if they can help you out. Bottom of this page has link to "Drop our Member Services Team an email": http://www.alamy.com/contributor/help/default.asp

Something I was wondering and cannot find the answer to: is it RM exclusive or can we submit stuff which we are offering RM (non exclusive) at Alamy ? Are the clients always going to be looking for an exclusive period of use ?

I do not know of a way of instantly suspending an image at Alamy for the duration of an exclusive use somewhere else.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2013, 11:36 by ann »

« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2013, 11:40 »
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Ah - I found something on the blog which is aimed at clients creating a brief and which addresses the exclusive/ non exclusive issue.

Setting Your Image Budget - How Do I Price My Images?

Basically the exclusive / non exclusive thing is down to the brief. So - I think that potentially we can submit non exclusive RM content unless they have specified - and it would be then be down to the price negotiation.

I think.

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Pricing is based on 12 months non-exclusive use in one country and gives a guide range that depends on how extensive the print run or coverage may be ... *Exclusive use would increase fee by 100-200%
« Last Edit: October 03, 2013, 11:53 by bhr »

« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2013, 17:16 »
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congrats, Ron, and hope to read about your first sales there down the road... lined with lovely yew trees.
- Ann


Ron

« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2013, 05:52 »
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My first two images have just been shortlisted. So we'll see how it goes. :)

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2013, 06:01 »
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My first two images have just been shortlisted. So we'll see how it goes. :)
Mazel Tov!

« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2013, 08:54 »
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Heh,

can't be THAT hard to get accepted...

"Hi Chris!

Welcome to ImageBrief!"

 :o

Now i just have to create something sellable   ;)

stocked

« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2013, 09:14 »
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Isnt it funny though, that every initiative is turned into a negative?

Symbiostock, Stocksy, ImageBrief, PicturEngine, etc etc, there is nothing save from being hammered on MSG.

Ugh.
I agree with you! All are great new business ideas in our favor, even if you are not with them! But building up a business takes time even in less competitive areas. I will judge about them in three years not after three months.

« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2013, 11:06 »
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i became quite excited when i joined them in the beginning of this year and some of my images were recommended and later shortlisted as well but none was bought. I had no luck till date

« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2013, 12:40 »
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Nothing easier to get there, just enjoyed... "Welcome on board", they're waiting for more my images :)
Well... let's see what it is after 1 year, if it's worth my time... Today looks like some funny play, so... let's play! :)

« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2013, 12:48 »
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Ive been accepted as well. It would be great to hear from photographers who have actually earned money through the site.

« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2013, 16:25 »
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I'm on IB for about a year now and have responded to many briefs and had a few files shortlisted. When this happened, some of the briefs got stuck for ages because the buyers needed more time to discuss with their partners. The wait was nerve-wracking.
In the end, a large amount of briefs ended up not awarding any image. I can't help thinking that many of the clients were just looking to visualize some ideas among the images suggested and then, simply tossing some excuse, go away to produce the image themselves.

Anyway, it seems a good business format for IB because they don't need to invest too much in mass image storage servers like the typical stock agencies. I remember reading somewhere that images not awarded are deleted past some time.

Good luck with them, Ron and everyone else

Uncle Pete

« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2013, 15:29 »
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Yes, sometimes the briefs have no one get the sale, it's just closed. I'd guess that the people looking, have found what they wanted elsewhere.

I find some of them amusing and impossible for me. French girl in Paris looking sultry. (example, not real) Or teens playing on the beach in Melbourne. Some are very specific in concept and location. Places I've never been or will be.

That's why I poked Ron when the one for Irish Girl, came up last week. Who better?

One recent one is race track, with no cars. Which appears to be a repeat from last year. While I was in Sebring in Feb. I went out and stood in the middle of the track and shot a big panorama, of the race track, with no cars and no spectators. I did shoot a straight at another track, but didn't get to the romantic, mysterious image or scenic view of the same. Nice to be working at the tracks and be there at 7AM when there are no cars whizzing past. That and during the day, no one, not even workers, is usually allowed to walk on track. Evening and nights, no one, including workers is allowed on track. Access is very limited.  ;)

Another reason this site could be interesting, aside from everyone pouncing on it to get rich quick and discovering it's not the free ticket. Ideas and concepts. If someone is looking for this type of shot, why wouldn't someone else be looking for something similar. I'm not going past that, but I have a notebook of shots that came from modified Image Brief requests, which I can possibly shoot locally.

Nice pay if someone wins a license.

« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2013, 15:03 »
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Hi everyone! 

My name is Ken Pao, i'm the photo editor at ImageBrief and wanted to introduce myself.  It's so great to see so many people interested and participating in our site.  I wanted to address one of the big questions on this forum, namely why some briefs "hang" or "pend" for so long. When a brief is pending, all the images that have been submitted are currently in a creative review with the client and their creative team. 

This pending period can range from days to weeks depending on the schedule of the client and if they have to make any creative changes on there original concept. In addition, our book publishing clients often work 12 months in advance and may not sign off final cover artwork until 3-4 months after the search and concept was mocked up.  As you know when working with creatives and clients, there is always a lot of back and forth when it comes to finalizing a concept and then executing it with the right imagery and copy. 

As a result, sometimes a lot of our photographers will experience a limbo period where they feel like nothing is happening with the images they submitted and that it was all just a waste of time. Rest assured, our account management team have personal contact with every single buyer and brief to ensure all briefs are vetted to verified requests from real buyers. If briefs are not awarded this is down to unavoidable changes in creative direction or a more suitable image being found elsewhere. We do everything we can to ensure each brief is awarded.


Please let us know if you ever have anymore questions or concerns, you can always reach us at [email protected]

Ken


gillian vann

  • *Gillian*
« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2013, 04:06 »
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thanks Ken, I'm only new to ImageBrief so it's good to get some extra info.


« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2013, 10:07 »
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Cool, I shot an image specifically for a brief and its made it to the shortlist.  Have my fingers crossed that it is ultimately picked.

« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2013, 10:12 »
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Cool, I shot an image specifically for a brief and its made it to the shortlist.  Have my fingers crossed that it is ultimately picked.

I wish you luck, but I suspect your fingers will start to ache before you make a sale.. ;-)

« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2013, 10:48 »
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I was shortlisted with 3 out of the 7 images in the shortlist.  Didn't get it.  Thought I had a really good chance.

« Reply #51 on: October 20, 2013, 12:53 »
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slightly OT but an interesting infographic

http://www.imagebrief.com/whoshotthephotographer

p.s: reading the comments I see Tyler and Bob, hope this wasn't posted before, if so sorry!
« Last Edit: October 20, 2013, 12:59 by luissantos84 »

« Reply #52 on: October 21, 2013, 12:03 »
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Since this seems to be the official IB thread, I'll just put out there that I managed to get shortlisted too.

I'll update if anything happens.


« Reply #53 on: November 12, 2013, 15:06 »
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I've also been accepted into ImageBrief. Fortunately I had some work that they were looking for that hadn't been put into RF yet. I have no idea what to expect. They are a well known commodity, but I have no idea about their sales numbers. It's a refreshing change from microstock, and I love their portfolio, so I plan to shoot accordingly for their needs in the coming months and decide if it is worth pursuing on an ongoing basis.

« Reply #54 on: November 12, 2013, 15:31 »
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Since this seems to be the official IB thread, I'll just put out there that I managed to get shortlisted too.

I'll update if anything happens.

I got shortlisted for one the other day too. My first submission.

Not holding my breath on that. But I like reading the briefs and they make me think.

Ron

« Reply #55 on: November 12, 2013, 15:33 »
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I find it all very weird, its like a brief never ends, and I have only seen one image being awarded in the last 2 months. ALso I have seen one brief where the buyer kept changing the concept and then decided to cancel the project. I had shot especially for that brief. LOL

What is good is the briefs themselves, it gives me plenty of ideas to shoot and then upload to shutterstock  ;)

« Reply #56 on: November 13, 2013, 04:56 »
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What is good is the briefs themselves, it gives me plenty of ideas to shoot and then upload to shutterstock  ;)

The brief idea for stock shooting is exactly right to me also :)

For my preferences, I have 3 images shortlisted so far but after that I've never listen about them and don't know if the brief is awarded or not. Really weird!

And FYI, I have never been accepted to ImageBrief, I just register and they allow me to send 1 image per brief. After some days, they send an email to notify me that my account has been upgrade so I can upload 10 images now :D That was awesome news :D


Ron

« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2013, 05:01 »
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I had two images shortlisted and then the buyer changed their mind and abandoned the brief

dtr

« Reply #58 on: November 21, 2013, 04:49 »
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I had a few shortlisted but nothing yet.


They get interested, email me for this and that and then I hear no more... I am not sure if I've done something wrong?

Ron

« Reply #59 on: November 21, 2013, 05:11 »
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I find IB to be useless other then their emails which give me ideas for shoots.

Uncle Pete

« Reply #60 on: November 21, 2013, 20:53 »
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Exactly why I read the emails and make notes. If someone is looking for it, maybe it's good for others. Or there's something I didn't think of, it's a tip for future ideas.

I had a chance to shoot one of the location specific briefs, from last year. When it came up again, I submitted. Hmm, haven't heard anything.  ??? But at least they do provide some good new ideas.

I won't be in Alaska or the Congo or Ireland, but concepts can be adapted locally. Free inspiration, is fair enough.


I find IB to be useless other then their emails which give me ideas for shoots.

« Reply #61 on: November 26, 2013, 15:26 »
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I just had 3 images shortlisted. Lets see what happens.

It would be more interesting if we hear about people getting money.

« Reply #62 on: November 26, 2013, 15:43 »
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Isnt it funny though, that every initiative is turned into a negative?

Symbiostock, Stocksy, ImageBrief, PicturEngine, etc etc, there is nothing save from being hammered on MSG.

Ugh.

that is not correct, we are mainly saying that it is one in a million that have the luck to license a picture there, not even going  to write a line about PE

I have had 4 images licensed through Image Brief. It's not luck.. you just have to know what they want and make sure yours are better than all the rest.

« Reply #63 on: November 26, 2013, 16:09 »
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Isnt it funny though, that every initiative is turned into a negative?

Symbiostock, Stocksy, ImageBrief, PicturEngine, etc etc, there is nothing save from being hammered on MSG.

Ugh.

that is not correct, we are mainly saying that it is one in a million that have the luck to license a picture there, not even going  to write a line about PE

I have had 4 images licensed through Image Brief. It's not luck.. you just have to know what they want and make sure yours are better than all the rest.

Kwest:  Sounds like you have it all figured out.  By any chance do you have a link to any photography work you have done so we can take a peek at it ?

« Reply #64 on: November 26, 2013, 16:36 »
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Isnt it funny though, that every initiative is turned into a negative?

Symbiostock, Stocksy, ImageBrief, PicturEngine, etc etc, there is nothing save from being hammered on MSG.

Ugh.

that is not correct, we are mainly saying that it is one in a million that have the luck to license a picture there, not even going  to write a line about PE

I have had 4 images licensed through Image Brief. It's not luck.. you just have to know what they want and make sure yours are better than all the rest.

I just had my first licensed today, a 1-year web use license. So yeah, it's legit from where I'm sitting :)

« Reply #65 on: November 26, 2013, 17:13 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 00:36 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #66 on: November 27, 2013, 18:08 »
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Hi All,

 We use them for our stock agency, we check their posts regularly to see if there is any work from our contributing photographers that fits their needs. Great extra source of revenue for the RM portion of our collection.

Cheers,
Jonathan


« Reply #67 on: November 27, 2013, 18:12 »
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That is great news Jonathan!

Your photographers are very lucky that you are doing this for them.

Semmick Photo

« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2015, 06:55 »
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Ron, honestly...some of the briefs rumble on for months and months. Particularly the ones for book jackets.
Yeah, I have to fully agree with you. Actually the excitement I displayed in this thread stopped pretty quick.

« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2015, 07:44 »
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I joined ImageBrief last year after having read about it here. First it seemed that no briefs would suit me, but then there was a brief where I got several shortlisted and finally one awarded. I have been participating in a few more briefs with no luck, but those were pretty general with lots of participants. I like the site and the concept, but it is the only RM site I have tried to upload to.

« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2015, 08:33 »
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So, if I have an image on other site I cannot sell here (or vice versa) ?

Semmick Photo

« Reply #71 on: January 13, 2015, 08:40 »
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So, if I have an image on other site I cannot sell here (or vice versa) ?
You can when its RM, not when its RM exclusive or RF

« Reply #72 on: January 22, 2015, 00:49 »
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Actually they do RF now, but they don't want anything that's been submitted to microstock.

I've had 2 images licensed (RM), to a travel agency.  Many more short-listed but either I don't win or they close with nothing bought.  I ignore most book covers and anything really vague (eg "Something that shows speed, or the future, the concept of time...", you can almost see the hands waving in the air) unless an image jumps into my head as soon as I read it.

The briefs are definitely interesting and inspiring reading.


 

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