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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Stock Discussion => Topic started by: dakk on September 15, 2023, 21:50
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I'm a little confused over this so need clarification.
With Adobe Firefly officially released now, is it now allowed to use Generative Fill in Photoshop for commercial use? Is it okay to upload retouched photos using Generative Fill to Adobe Stock and other agencies (unless they specifically forbid it like iStock)?
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Commercial use, yes. Uploading as stock? See Mat Hayward's answer to my question on this - which was an excerpt from the updated rules for genAI submissions:
https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/announcing-adobe-firefly-a-new-family-of-creative-generative-ai-models/msg592314/#msg592314 (https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/announcing-adobe-firefly-a-new-family-of-creative-generative-ai-models/msg592314/#msg592314)
Shutterstock doesn't accept AI generated images (last update to this page is apparently 8 Sep 2023)
https://support.submit.shutterstock.com/s/article/Shutterstock-ai-and-Computer-Vision-Contributor-FAQ?language=en_US (https://support.submit.shutterstock.com/s/article/Shutterstock-ai-and-Computer-Vision-Contributor-FAQ?language=en_US)
They may need to say something specific about using generative fill in Photoshop for part of an image and whether they would consider that a no-no
Shutterstock is a member of the Content Authenticity Initiative, so they would likely look at images in CAI's verify tool to see its status
https://contentauthenticity.org/our-members (https://contentauthenticity.org/our-members)
https://verify.contentauthenticity.org/inspect (https://verify.contentauthenticity.org/inspect)
Here's what Verify would say about a JPEG file where Photoshop's generative fill was used (this is a test file of mine):
"CONTENT SUMMARY
This image combines multiple pieces of content. At least one was generated with an AI tool.
AI MODEL USED
Adobe Firefly
PRODUCED WITH
Adobe Photoshop 25.0.0"
Getty provided an explicit notice for contributors about use of generative fill in Photoshop this week:
"As announced in September 2022, Getty Images does not accept files created using AI generative models. This includes Adobe’s recently announced Creative Cloud tools, which are now available with its Firefly-powered generative AI tools built in."
With respect to Adobe Stock's rules as Mat outlined them, I'm still not sure it's "safe" to upload something where generative fill was used on the background and NOT mark it as AI generated. I'd be worried about getting my portfolio blocked by the current crazy process where they "shoot first and ask questions afterwards"
My examples and questions in this thread didn't get an answer (possibly because the powers that be don't know)
https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/announcing-adobe-firefly-a-new-family-of-creative-generative-ai-models/msg592350/#msg592350 (https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/announcing-adobe-firefly-a-new-family-of-creative-generative-ai-models/msg592350/#msg592350)
For a stock contributor to upload to multiple sites, effectively the new Photoshop generative tools can't be used. It makes no sense to do multiple versions, and as at least two of the major sites have forbidden their use, what would be the point?
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This is very important.
I am reading in many groups…oh but if I use generative fill on a tiny section or just removbe a small object it is ok…no it is not…
And I am sure agencies like istock, ss etc.. that do not allow gen ai content will consider this an attempt at fraud.
I will continue to process in old photoshop elements that does not have any gen ai tools.
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This is very important.
I am reading in many groups…oh but if I use generative fill on a tiny section or just removbe a small object it is ok…no it is not…
And I am sure agencies like istock, ss etc.. that do not allow gen ai content will consider this an attempt at fraud.
I will continue to process in old photoshop elements that does not have any gen ai tools.
I am sure that Istock team sees fraud everywhere even while they sleep,they are so obsessed that they see fraud even in coffee while having breakfast and think how they can ruin someone's life during their bad fraudulent day! :D