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So, imagine if 100,000 novices like my son are uploading to AS, what would be the result?
Quote from: alijaber on June 09, 2023, 13:34So, imagine if 100,000 novices like my son are uploading to AS, what would be the result?A review waiting time of 28 days.
I'm guessing one important factor is as follows: - Many photos uploaded to Stock sites aren't super saleable....i.e. snapshots, nice landscapes....etc.. Generally with stock, photos with people in "interesting" locations (e.g. offices) sell better. For a photographer, that means hiring models with releases etc., and getting those interesting locations. For AI, it is no problem to include "people" as subjects in "interesting lcations". In general, with good prompts, AI can produce saleable images without having to hire actual models or travel to interesting or challenging locations as a photographer would have to do.
I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):April: 27 salesMay: 51 salesJune (till 9): 28 salesHe now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.I really feel sorry for photographers as they can't compete with the image quality created using Midjourney, it's just amazing.So, imagine if 100,000 novices like my son are uploading to AS, what would be the result?
Quote from: wds on June 09, 2023, 13:52I'm guessing one important factor is as follows: - Many photos uploaded to Stock sites aren't super saleable....i.e. snapshots, nice landscapes....etc.. Generally with stock, photos with people in "interesting" locations (e.g. offices) sell better. For a photographer, that means hiring models with releases etc., and getting those interesting locations. For AI, it is no problem to include "people" as subjects in "interesting lcations". In general, with good prompts, AI can produce saleable images without having to hire actual models or travel to interesting or challenging locations as a photographer would have to do.Right!The AI is a powerful tool and another resource at your disposal. Important is the choice of the subjects and the post processing. Anyway some of my AI generated images are performing very well with more than 50 downloads each and others are approaching...
Quote from: alijaber on June 09, 2023, 13:34I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):April: 27 salesMay: 51 salesJune (till 9): 28 salesHe now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.I really feel sorry for photographers as they can't compete with the image quality created using Midjourney, it's just amazing.So, imagine if 100,000 novices like my son are uploading to AS, what would be the result?Don't you need to pay commission from sales to Midjourney? I remember saw it in their licencing.
Don't you need to pay commission from sales to Midjourney? I remember saw it in their licencing.
Quote from: gameover on June 09, 2023, 14:08Quote from: wds on June 09, 2023, 13:52I'm guessing one important factor is as follows: - Many photos uploaded to Stock sites aren't super saleable....i.e. snapshots, nice landscapes....etc.. Generally with stock, photos with people in "interesting" locations (e.g. offices) sell better. For a photographer, that means hiring models with releases etc., and getting those interesting locations. For AI, it is no problem to include "people" as subjects in "interesting lcations". In general, with good prompts, AI can produce saleable images without having to hire actual models or travel to interesting or challenging locations as a photographer would have to do.Right!The AI is a powerful tool and another resource at your disposal. Important is the choice of the subjects and the post processing. Anyway some of my AI generated images are performing very well with more than 50 downloads each and others are approaching...Congrats!
I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):April: 27 salesMay: 51 salesJune (till 9): 28 salesHe now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.
18 months from now he will make a lot more money. It takes time for customers to find the files, lightbox them, realise the project.These are early days.I hope he enjoys. the journey.
Quote from: MadPhotos on June 12, 2023, 13:07Don't you need to pay commission from sales to Midjourney? I remember saw it in their licencing.In order to "own" your output from Midjourney, you have to have a paid subscription plan - otherwise they own it. "If You are not a Paid Member, You dont own the Assets You create. Instead, Midjourney grants You a license to the Assets under the Creative Commons Noncommercial 4.0 Attribution International License (the Asset License)."You can see the plans they offer here:https://docs.midjourney.com/docs/plans"If you have subscribed at any point, you are free to use your images in just about any way you want. If you are a company making more than $1,000,000 USD in gross revenue per year, you must purchase the Pro plan. For complete details please see the Terms of Service"As noted above, I don't see anything in the terms of service about paying Midjourney, other than the subscription. They do note that if you're sued you're on your own (their words are different, but that's the gist of it)
How is the Basic Plan different from the Standard Plan? Which plan is best for us?
Quote from: alijaber on June 09, 2023, 13:34I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):April: 27 salesMay: 51 salesJune (till 9): 28 salesHe now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.Updated numbers (really interesting experiment) ...
Quote from: alijaber on June 29, 2023, 17:25Quote from: alijaber on June 09, 2023, 13:34I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):April: 27 salesMay: 51 salesJune (till 9): 28 salesHe now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.Updated numbers (really interesting experiment) ...Congrats That's really a good start!Looks like he found out that the idea behind the images plays a decisive role: once I realized it my sales skyrocketed (this week a single image got me $21.25 and another $26.40)
@gameovercongrats!Also trying to do more concepts. But I need a lot more experience to get them right.
midjourney doesn't have a collection of ready made images to download. you have to create your own by prompting. which takes time to learn.and midjourney cannot give you legal protection, because as their own ceo explained himself how they scraped the entire internet without licensing anything.
Quote from: cobalt on August 04, 2023, 12:07midjourney doesn't have a collection of ready made images to download. you have to create your own by prompting. which takes time to learn.and midjourney cannot give you legal protection, because as their own ceo explained himself how they scraped the entire internet without licensing anything.Are the agencies offering legal protection?
Quote from: ShadySue on August 04, 2023, 12:39Quote from: cobalt on August 04, 2023, 12:07midjourney doesn't have a collection of ready made images to download. you have to create your own by prompting. which takes time to learn.and midjourney cannot give you legal protection, because as their own ceo explained himself how they scraped the entire internet without licensing anything.Are the agencies offering legal protection?Adobe Stock is, but to its enterprise customers creating Firefly output only. Adobe Stock's current getAI content comes from all the current generative AI tools, none of which is on a secure legal footing. Theoretically Firefly will be - if and when it exits beta - because Adobe trained on its contributors' content + public domain stuff. Adobe's CYA for the content it is accepting is telling contributors they need to ensure they have the rights for commercial use of the content they upload. But Adobe knows as well as anyone that no contributor can know that with Midjourney, Stable Diffusion, etc.Shutterstock is but only for enterprise customers and things created with their (DALL-E 2 based) tools, not for all the genAI stuff uploaded to their site in spite of the rules saying its not allowed. Their earning call this week said that very few customers are using any of the output from their own AI tool as the quality isn't there: "... lack of true photo realistic outputs are holding back widespread adoption for actual marketing campaigns"No idea what DepositPhotos, CanStock or 123rf are offering.