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« on: June 08, 2023, 00:02 »
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Uncle Pete

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2023, 12:18 »
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https://petapixel.com/2023/06/06/ai-images-are-outperforming-photos-on-adobe-stock/


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Interesting numbers and yes, I'd agree, important factor is WHO: "All the above data has to be taken with a pinch of salt. It is compiled from Stock Performers customers who do not represent all stock contributors and not all Stock Performer customers choose to hand over their performance data. "

I'll hand over my data for nothing in return and show that AI is not preforming better than my photos. I suspect your members are much more in tune and jumped on AI and are smart at creating useful images, while working very hard at new AI images. One AI image licensed on SS for 10 cents, in June so far, and it was an Easter background. I suppose the pretty flowers may have been usable for something else Springtime?

« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2023, 12:43 »
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For me it is about the same as photos.

When the intial ai rush settles, I think it will be just the same sales ratio as illustrations and photos.

But that article will encourage 100 000 new artists to join Adobe and upload ai.

« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2023, 13:34 »
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I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):
April: 27 sales
May: 51 sales
June (till 9): 28 sales
He now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.
I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.
I really feel sorry for photographers as they can't compete with the image quality created using Midjourney, it's just amazing.

So, imagine if 100,000 novices like my son are uploading to AS, what would be the result?

« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2023, 13:40 »
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So, imagine if 100,000 novices like my son are uploading to AS, what would be the result?
A review waiting time of 28 days.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2023, 13:42 »
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So, imagine if 100,000 novices like my son are uploading to AS, what would be the result?
A review waiting time of 28 days.


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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2023, 13:52 »
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I'm guessing one important factor is as follows:

  - Many photos uploaded to Stock sites aren't super saleable....i.e. snapshots, nice landscapes....etc.. Generally with stock, photos with people in "interesting" locations (e.g. offices) sell better. For a photographer, that means hiring models with releases etc., and getting those interesting locations. For AI, it is no problem to include "people" as subjects in "interesting lcations". In general, with good prompts, AI can produce saleable images without having to hire actual models or travel to interesting or challenging locations as a photographer would have to do.

« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2023, 14:08 »
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I'm guessing one important factor is as follows:

  - Many photos uploaded to Stock sites aren't super saleable....i.e. snapshots, nice landscapes....etc.. Generally with stock, photos with people in "interesting" locations (e.g. offices) sell better. For a photographer, that means hiring models with releases etc., and getting those interesting locations. For AI, it is no problem to include "people" as subjects in "interesting lcations". In general, with good prompts, AI can produce saleable images without having to hire actual models or travel to interesting or challenging locations as a photographer would have to do.

Right!
The AI is a powerful tool and another resource at your disposal. Important is the choice of the subjects and the post processing. Anyway some of my AI generated images are performing very well with more than 50 downloads each and others are approaching...

« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2023, 13:07 »
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I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):
April: 27 sales
May: 51 sales
June (till 9): 28 sales
He now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.
I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.
I really feel sorry for photographers as they can't compete with the image quality created using Midjourney, it's just amazing.

So, imagine if 100,000 novices like my son are uploading to AS, what would be the result?

Don't you need to pay commission from sales to Midjourney? I remember saw it in their licencing.

« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2023, 13:19 »
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I'm guessing one important factor is as follows:

  - Many photos uploaded to Stock sites aren't super saleable....i.e. snapshots, nice landscapes....etc.. Generally with stock, photos with people in "interesting" locations (e.g. offices) sell better. For a photographer, that means hiring models with releases etc., and getting those interesting locations. For AI, it is no problem to include "people" as subjects in "interesting lcations". In general, with good prompts, AI can produce saleable images without having to hire actual models or travel to interesting or challenging locations as a photographer would have to do.

Right!
The AI is a powerful tool and another resource at your disposal. Important is the choice of the subjects and the post processing. Anyway some of my AI generated images are performing very well with more than 50 downloads each and others are approaching...

Congrats!  :)

« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2023, 13:26 »
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I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):
April: 27 sales
May: 51 sales
June (till 9): 28 sales
He now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.
I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.
I really feel sorry for photographers as they can't compete with the image quality created using Midjourney, it's just amazing.

So, imagine if 100,000 novices like my son are uploading to AS, what would be the result?

Don't you need to pay commission from sales to Midjourney? I remember saw it in their licencing.

I don't find anything in the Midjourney terms of service (link:https://docs.midjourney.com/docs/terms-of-service) where did you find that pay commission ? Can you provide a direct link of the Midjourney site?

« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2023, 16:42 »
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Don't you need to pay commission from sales to Midjourney? I remember saw it in their licencing.

In order to "own" your output from Midjourney, you have to have a paid subscription plan - otherwise they own it. "If You are not a Paid Member, You dont own the Assets You create. Instead, Midjourney grants You a license to the Assets under the Creative Commons Noncommercial 4.0 Attribution International License (the Asset License)."

You can see the plans they offer here:

https://docs.midjourney.com/docs/plans

"If you have subscribed at any point, you are free to use your images in just about any way you want. If you are a company making more than $1,000,000 USD in gross revenue per year, you must purchase the Pro plan. For complete details please see the Terms of Service"

As noted above, I don't see anything in the terms of service about paying Midjourney, other than the subscription. They do note that if you're sued you're on your own (their words are different, but that's the gist of it)

« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2023, 05:15 »
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I'm guessing one important factor is as follows:

  - Many photos uploaded to Stock sites aren't super saleable....i.e. snapshots, nice landscapes....etc.. Generally with stock, photos with people in "interesting" locations (e.g. offices) sell better. For a photographer, that means hiring models with releases etc., and getting those interesting locations. For AI, it is no problem to include "people" as subjects in "interesting lcations". In general, with good prompts, AI can produce saleable images without having to hire actual models or travel to interesting or challenging locations as a photographer would have to do.

Right!
The AI is a powerful tool and another resource at your disposal. Important is the choice of the subjects and the post processing. Anyway some of my AI generated images are performing very well with more than 50 downloads each and others are approaching...

Congrats!  :)
thank you  ;D

« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2023, 17:25 »
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I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):
April: 27 sales
May: 51 sales
June (till 9): 28 sales
He now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.
I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.

Updated numbers (really interesting experiment) ...

« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2023, 20:49 »
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18 months from now he will make a lot more money. It takes time for customers to find the files, lightbox them, realise the project.

These are early days.

I hope he enjoys. the journey. :)

« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2023, 01:09 »
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18 months from now he will make a lot more money. It takes time for customers to find the files, lightbox them, realise the project.

These are early days.

I hope he enjoys. the journey. :)

Thank you, I always warn him not to put too much hope in this field, as things are changing really quickly.

Anyway, my son's success so far has been quite unexpected for me, looking to see how far he can get...

« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2023, 01:30 »
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Don't you need to pay commission from sales to Midjourney? I remember saw it in their licencing.

In order to "own" your output from Midjourney, you have to have a paid subscription plan - otherwise they own it. "If You are not a Paid Member, You dont own the Assets You create. Instead, Midjourney grants You a license to the Assets under the Creative Commons Noncommercial 4.0 Attribution International License (the Asset License)."

You can see the plans they offer here:

https://docs.midjourney.com/docs/plans

"If you have subscribed at any point, you are free to use your images in just about any way you want. If you are a company making more than $1,000,000 USD in gross revenue per year, you must purchase the Pro plan. For complete details please see the Terms of Service"

As noted above, I don't see anything in the terms of service about paying Midjourney, other than the subscription. They do note that if you're sued you're on your own (their words are different, but that's the gist of it)
How is the Basic Plan different from the Standard Plan? Which plan is best for us?


« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2023, 01:58 »
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How is the Basic Plan different from the Standard Plan? Which plan is best for us?
The main difference is that the basic plan only lets you make 200 generations ( one generation is 4 images, so 800 images) and the standard plan lets you create unlimited images.

« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2023, 03:32 »
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I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):
April: 27 sales
May: 51 sales
June (till 9): 28 sales
He now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.
I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.

Updated numbers (really interesting experiment) ...

Congrats  ;D  8)

That's really a good start!

Looks like he found out that the idea behind the images plays a decisive role: once I realized it my sales skyrocketed (this week a single image got me $21.25 and another $26.40)

« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2023, 03:43 »
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I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):
April: 27 sales
May: 51 sales
June (till 9): 28 sales
He now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.
I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.

Updated numbers (really interesting experiment) ...

Congrats  ;D  8)

That's really a good start!

Looks like he found out that the idea behind the images plays a decisive role: once I realized it my sales skyrocketed (this week a single image got me $21.25 and another $26.40)

Congrats to you too, impressive high sales!

« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2023, 04:09 »
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@gameover

congrats!

Also trying to do more concepts. But I need a lot more experience to get them right.

« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2023, 05:23 »
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@gameover

congrats!

Also trying to do more concepts. But I need a lot more experience to get them right.

Just think out of the box, it's easy!  ;D

« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2023, 12:14 »
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I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):
April: 27 sales
May: 51 sales
June (till 9): 28 sales
He now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.
I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.

Updated numbers (really interesting experiment) ...

Congrats  ;D  8)

That's really a good start!

Looks like he found out that the idea behind the images plays a decisive role: once I realized it my sales skyrocketed (this week a single image got me $21.25 and another $26.40)
In which stock agencies do you upload AI content to?

« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2023, 14:13 »
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still, the whole problem with Midjourney AI is using other people's photos. when it comes to legal action, both Midjourney and AS wash their hands. I don't understand AS will accept these pictures when they don't even accept editorials.

« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2023, 14:39 »
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I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):
April: 27 sales
May: 51 sales
June (till 9): 28 sales
He now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.
I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.

Updated numbers (really interesting experiment) ...

Very interesting to compare numbers. In June I had around 480 files and 26 ai downloads.

So your son is doing better than me percentagewise. But of course with 1500 files he has a lot more exposure than me.

Need to upload more...


 

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