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« Reply #50 on: September 09, 2019, 00:08 »
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Back to the OP question though - is Alamy worth it? Of course we would say yes, but it works better for some than for others. We'll offer you 50% commission for images exclusive to us and 40% for non-exclusive. Our average licence price is $35, although as others have mentioned, it's not uncommon to get much higher and sometimes lower.

Sometimes? try most of the times, sometimes higher and rarely much higher.

My last 3 sales were $3.72, $3.53 and $5.09 and that's without their cut (so at least half of these figures)
If you ask me Alamy isn't worth it, they are no better and most of the times even worse then Microstock.

My 2c

Since the figure cited is an average, it stands to reason that amounts above that are matched by amounts below that. A single $600 sale needs to be followed by 20 $5 sales to produce an average of about $35. The larger a big sale is the more small sales will be needed to balance it, that's just elementary maths. And, of course, Alamy quotes the overall sales figure, not the photographer's commission, which could be 50%, 40% or for partner sales 30%.  For the photographer 40% of a $35 sale translates into $14 commission. Unfortunately, that average sale price seems to have declined considerably - presumably as a result of pressure from the micros (yes, we are all to blame, but the micros were a juggernaut that could not be stopped, try though the Alamy crowd did back 15 years ago). The other unfortunate thing is that while the sales price average seems to have declined to within spitting distance of the micros, the sales volume has not risen accordingly. My sales volume has remained roughly static for six or seven years but my sales value has halved and the commission cut has, of course, added to the pain.
That said, the earnings plunge is nothing like as bad as I've seen on the micros where my peak-to-current-trough earnings have dropped by about 90%. I'm not sure that any of the micros are worth the effort any longer, but if they are then so is Alamy.


« Reply #51 on: September 09, 2019, 00:54 »
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while the sales price average seems to have declined to within spitting distance of the micros, the sales volume has not risen accordingly. My sales volume has remained roughly static for six or seven years but my sales value has halved and the commission cut has

And that above, is the main problem. To which I may add the fact that to costumers take months to pay a $5 sale, contrary to micros where the payment is immediate. With such cheap sales there's no reason the image isn't immediately paid.

In 2013 I had roughly the same sales as in 2018. Yet the average license price dropped from $60 to $27, and my average commission form $33 to $12. And this year my average commission is even lower than last year with a big drop in the number of sales.


« Reply #52 on: September 12, 2019, 06:34 »
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I find it weird that 'good discoverability/poor discoverability' of an image seems to be determined by number of keywords above 40.
It's not, that's just some insane thing someone thought up, but they aren't humble enough to say 'we made a mistake'.

I think maybe "insane" is a little unfair. We've been open and appreciate that the current system doesn't work for everyone but it does for others. Some contributors feel that we ask for too much info and others feel that we don't give enough space to add even more tags!

Essentially, we had an issue before the current system where many contributors were not adding enough information, just adding a handful of tags. We needed a system that would encourage users to add more info, and that's what this system does. We've been very open and said within our help info that the "discoverability bar" is not analysing your data in any way, it's just essentially letting you know if you have more space to add more info. The more relevant information you can add the better, and the key term there is relevant - again, something we've been trying to make clear to contributors. I'm sure we'll tweak the terminology in time, maybe even remove the "discoverability" labelling as we can appreciate this can be confusing. We do test any changes with groups of current contributors before going live though to get feedback, and this system was no exception.

We need a caption and 5 tags to get the image searchable - everything else is optional. Additional info like number of people, release info etc is desirable but not mandatory. We'll extract any embedded info and apply it, so if you have a caption and 5 tags the images will go online without you doing anything else.  Supertagging definitely does help images get higher up in the search engine - so if you have the time to do it and want to give certain images a boost for certain words then you should try and make the time to take advantage. Again though, not mandatory so it's a judgement call for you and your time.

Back to the OP question though - is Alamy worth it? Of course we would say yes, but it works better for some than for others. We'll offer you 50% commission for images exclusive to us and 40% for non-exclusive. Our average licence price is $35, although as others have mentioned, it's not uncommon to get much higher and sometimes lower. If you have a portfolio of images sat on your hard drive or sat on another site, you absolutely should upload them to Alamy to see if we can make you some additional revenue. Once the images are up and online, there is nothing further for you to do other than enjoy the extra money! We pay out well in excess of $1 million every month to contributors so you should put yourself in the mix and get a slice.

Happy to answer any other questions here about Alamy as best I can. As others can attest to, I'm also open to answering any questions you have via PM if you'd rather not ask out in the open.

Cheers

James Allsworth

Contributor Experience Manager

Frankly, your system is so tricky and time consuming, and the interface so badly designed (sometimes I need to click 5 times or more on a keyword to select it as a supertag) that I have completely stopped to edit my images

Mrl

« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2019, 21:46 »
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As mine viewpoint, it has
Yes
I started at 2013 but has not any sale until 2017, it comes two sales. After the long time consuming key-wording and tags procedure in 2018-9 i sell regularly and my average earning per download is 23$

« Last Edit: September 16, 2019, 22:12 by Mrl »

ShadySue

« Reply #54 on: Yesterday at 06:04 »
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As mine viewpoint, it has
Yes
I started at 2013 but has not any sale until 2017, it comes two sales. After the long time consuming key-wording and tags procedure in 2018-9 i sell regularly and my average earning per download is 23$
$23 gross or net?

Mrl

« Reply #55 on: Yesterday at 06:53 »
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Gross
23X40%= 9.2 for each one. Not bad


 

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