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Title: Alamy vs IS SS AS... same pictures?
Post by: christiano on July 25, 2018, 11:00
Hello, I have 2 questions:
1) I started only December 2017 with AlMy, I sold some photos. However, I read that it was better not to put the same pictures that I upload on sites like AS IS SS ... others say it does not matter ... however, my photos are sold more expensive on ALMY. So, I ask the pros, should I take different pictures for Almy?
2) On Almy, is it better to sell in RF or RM? I am a bit confused between the two.

thank you
Title: Re: Alamy vs IS SS AS... same pictures?
Post by: ShadySue on July 25, 2018, 11:12
1. You are allowed to sell the same images on Alamy, but you must sell them RF, as you're selling them RF elsewhere. This also applies to similars/sisters.

2. If you  check out several threads on this in the Alamy forum, you'll see the jury is out. You'd think RF should sell for much more than RM with no exclusivity, but this doesn't seem to be the case. Anyway, RF can be sold on Alamy on effectively an non-exclusive RM basis.
Title: Re: Alamy vs IS SS AS... same pictures?
Post by: christiano on July 25, 2018, 12:07
1. You are allowed to sell the same images on Alamy, but you must sell them RF, as you're selling them RF elsewhere. This also applies to similars/sisters.

2. If you  check out several threads on this in the Alamy forum, you'll see the jury is out. You'd think RF should sell for much more than RM with no exclusivity, but this doesn't seem to be the case. Anyway, RF can be sold on Alamy on effectively an non-exclusive RM basis.

Omg... my mistake! I had never seen that there was an Alamy forum all the way down the page.
Thank you for your answers, I will read in the good forum.
Title: Re: Alamy vs IS SS AS... same pictures?
Post by: ShadySue on July 25, 2018, 12:49
Omg... my mistake! I had never seen that there was an Alamy forum all the way down the page.
Thank you for your answers, I will read in the good forum.
Sorry, no, I meant in Alamy's own forums.
Title: Re: Alamy vs IS SS AS... same pictures?
Post by: StanRohrer on July 25, 2018, 13:17
Over the years Alamy was selling at different price points than most of the Micros. So to sell the same pictures you were undercutting your sales prices by attempting to sell on two different price points. The bigger question is to determine what types of photos sell better on which sites. Then send the respecitve shots to the respective sites.
Title: Re: Alamy vs IS SS AS... same pictures?
Post by: christiano on July 25, 2018, 13:24
Over the years Alamy was selling at different price points than most of the Micros. So to sell the same pictures you were undercutting your sales prices by attempting to sell on two different price points. The bigger question is to determine what types of photos sell better on which sites. Then send the respecitve shots to the respective sites.

"Then send the respecitve shots to the respective sites"... the difficult part!
 
Title: Re: Alamy vs IS SS AS... same pictures?
Post by: christiano on July 25, 2018, 13:24
Omg... my mistake! I had never seen that there was an Alamy forum all the way down the page.
Thank you for your answers, I will read in the good forum.
Sorry, no, I meant in Alamy's own forums.

 ;D good.
Title: Re: Alamy vs IS SS AS... same pictures?
Post by: dpimborough on July 25, 2018, 13:32
Over the years Alamy was selling at different price points than most of the Micros. So to sell the same pictures you were undercutting your sales prices by attempting to sell on two different price points. The bigger question is to determine what types of photos sell better on which sites. Then send the respecitve shots to the respective sites.

"Then send the respecitve shots to the respective sites"... the difficult part!

I've seen this mentioned a number of times on this forum and on Alamy.

It's wrong.

50% of my sales on Alamy are for royalty free available on SS Adobe et al.

The money I make on Alamy sales is a lot higher than the subscription revenue on micro sites but it doesn't stop them selling on Alamy.

So if you have royalty free images put them for sale on Alamy too.


Title: Re: Alamy vs IS SS AS... same pictures?
Post by: Pauws99 on July 26, 2018, 02:48
Over the years Alamy was selling at different price points than most of the Micros. So to sell the same pictures you were undercutting your sales prices by attempting to sell on two different price points. The bigger question is to determine what types of photos sell better on which sites. Then send the respecitve shots to the respective sites.

"Then send the respecitve shots to the respective sites"... the difficult part!

I've seen this mentioned a number of times on this forum and on Alamy.

It's wrong.

50% of my sales on Alamy are for royalty free available on SS Adobe et al.

The money I make on Alamy sales is a lot higher than the subscription revenue on micro sites but it doesn't stop them selling on Alamy.

So if you have royalty free images put them for sale on Alamy too.
We never know for sure but given time searching for images is probably more expensive than the images I suspect the impact is minimal. I do find different images tend to sell on different sites...but personally I throw them all at the wall and see what sticks....you never know for certain.
Title: Re: Alamy vs IS SS AS... same pictures?
Post by: christiano on July 31, 2018, 10:34
Over the years Alamy was selling at different price points than most of the Micros. So to sell the same pictures you were undercutting your sales prices by attempting to sell on two different price points. The bigger question is to determine what types of photos sell better on which sites. Then send the respecitve shots to the respective sites.

"Then send the respecitve shots to the respective sites"... the difficult part!

I've seen this mentioned a number of times on this forum and on Alamy.

It's wrong.

50% of my sales on Alamy are for royalty free available on SS Adobe et al.

The money I make on Alamy sales is a lot higher than the subscription revenue on micro sites but it doesn't stop them selling on Alamy.

So if you have royalty free images put them for sale on Alamy too.

Good to know!!! thanks.
Title: Re: Alamy vs IS SS AS... same pictures?
Post by: Dumc on August 01, 2018, 01:01
My two highest sales on alamy, both for 100$ net were RF images, also avaliable also on microstock sites. In fact, most of my high earnings sales on Alamy are RF images, also avaliable on microstock sites. On the other side, most RM sales on alamy are low earning, in the range 1-5$, and most of the time distributor sales so I only get 30%.
Title: Re: Alamy vs IS SS AS... same pictures?
Post by: Dumc on August 01, 2018, 01:04
Also, most of my high earning RF sales are through alamy so I get 50%. My advice would be: put everything you have on microstock sites also on alamy.
Title: Re: Alamy vs IS SS AS... same pictures?
Post by: Uncle Pete on August 01, 2018, 10:32
Over the years Alamy was selling at different price points than most of the Micros. So to sell the same pictures you were undercutting your sales prices by attempting to sell on two different price points. The bigger question is to determine what types of photos sell better on which sites. Then send the respecitve shots to the respective sites.

Yes, I do that if I have any inclination what sells best - where. I'm not interested in competing with myself on a basis of price. But the image would have to be individual enough that I wouldn't be losing sales because 1,000 other people also had something similar that a buyer who sticks with one site would find easily.

Also a yes, good idea:

Also, most of my high earning RF sales are through alamy so I get 50%. My advice would be: put everything you have on microstock sites also on alamy.
Title: Re: Alamy vs IS SS AS... same pictures?
Post by: christiano on August 01, 2018, 10:33
Also, most of my high earning RF sales are through alamy so I get 50%. My advice would be: put everything you have on microstock sites also on alamy.

I have done this since I started, so I will continue with the same method. All my photos are RF on Alamy, 4 sales, my comission $ 89 ... not bad!

thanks.