Author Topic: Another $1.80 video sale at Shutterstock. (Read 5322 times)

thirdbornentertainment · « **on:** May 19, 2020, 23:31 »

Had one for $3 two weeks ago, followed by $102, $23 and now $1.80

Fyi SS I'm deleting every clip you sell for scraps.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #1 on:** May 20, 2020, 01:13 »

Is that wise? There's nothing specific about that clip that made it sell for $1.80... I mean, if that one is available for that price, to certain buyers, on certain plans... then all your clips are available for that price, to certain buyers, on certain plans. So if you're concerned about your clips being sold for scraps, the best option would be to delete all your clips immediately. In the absence of not being able to do much to change the situation... I'd rather keep mine all up and take the rough ($1.80) with the smooth ($102) though.

Anyway, count yourself lucky... my balance for the entire month is $1.20! And that's from two sales!! (Feb $192, Mar $180, Apr $59, May $1.20)

Sstr · « **Reply #2 on:** May 20, 2020, 03:39 »

Me too!

March $415,39
April $395,62
May $11,12

Not a single one video sale!
*, this is frustrating!

Visualab · « **Reply #3 on:** May 20, 2020, 04:03 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 20, 2020, 01:13

Anyway, count yourself lucky... my balance for the entire month is $1.20! And that's from two sales!! (Feb $192, Mar $180, Apr $59, May $1.20)

It happens when a buyer can find your clips for free on the
Unlimited subs plan around...fortunately i didn't,and my sales are on average if i look the stats since april 2019 considering coronavirus..

Sstr · « **Reply #4 on:** May 20, 2020, 05:43 »

I'm not on any Unlimited subs plan site and my sales look like this....

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #5 on:** May 20, 2020, 06:27 »

Quote from: Visualab on May 20, 2020, 04:03

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 20, 2020, 01:13

Anyway, count yourself lucky... my balance for the entire month is $1.20! And that's from two sales!! (Feb $192, Mar $180, Apr $59, May $1.20)

It happens when a buyer can find your clips for free on the
Unlimited subs plan around...fortunately i didn't,and my sales are on average if i look the stats since april 2019 considering coronavirus..

Yes, I'm sure every single buyer that would have bought my content from SS during May, just happened to discover subscription sites over the last two months. What was happening for the two years before that... were they just a bit slow to discover them? While it is a possibility, there's no evidence to support that, especially with my historical figures. Sales on regular sites have been constant or growing since I've been on subscription sites. I mean, there's no evidence to support that your sales were $1.80 because they're not on the unlimited subs plans... but it's possible!

Thankfully the one place where I've consistently not had a drop in earnings, is the unlimited subscription sites. Videoblocks....

Jan: 225
Feb: 300
Mar: 389
April: 674
May: 448

But still, I'll stick with what I'm doing. Not sure I'm ever going to be able to agree with somebody who is happy to sell on a site that offers content for sale at $1.80 (among other prices), but no longer wants to sell their content there if it does sell for $1.80... seems slightly illogical.

georgep7 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 20, 2020, 06:51 »

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Yes, I'm sure every single buyer that would have bought my content from SS during May, just happened to discover subscription sites over the last two months.

News travel fast. Similar as we, as buyers or in our professions each one, we follow news, trends or even word of mouth (including forums?). People working with stock material, guess are up to date informed on any (actually for them) good news. They live from this, right?

If I was a client and I was given the opportunity to pay an unlimited plan and download "potentially" work- useful high quality content that low priced for future use, I would have take the opportunity as long as either contributors will delete their content either the marketplace will collapse (if so depserate to sell for peanuts).

I know, I know, too big to fail hah?

Visualab · « **Reply #7 on:** May 20, 2020, 08:01 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 20, 2020, 06:27

Quote from: Visualab on May 20, 2020, 04:03
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 20, 2020, 01:13

Thankfully the one place where I've consistently not had a drop in earnings, is the unlimited subscription sites. Videoblocks....

Jan: 225
Feb: 300
Mar: 389
April: 674
May: 448

meanwhile your sales on ss collapse...strange coincidense here...

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #8 on:** May 20, 2020, 15:04 »

Quote from: georgep7 on May 20, 2020, 06:51

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Yes, I'm sure every single buyer that would have bought my content from SS during May, just happened to discover subscription sites over the last two months.

News travel fast. Similar as we, as buyers or in our professions each one, we follow news, trends or even word of mouth (including forums?). People working with stock material, guess are up to date informed on any (actually for them) good news. They live from this, right?

If I was a client and I was given the opportunity to pay an unlimited plan and download "potentially" work- useful high quality content that low priced for future use, I would have take the opportunity as long as either contributors will delete their content either the marketplace will collapse (if so depserate to sell for peanuts).

I know, I know, too big to fail hah?

Yeah, my point is that news doesn't travel fast if buyers are just discovering unlimited subscriptions seeing they've been around for several years and I've been on them for a couple of years. Why just in the last couple of months is my point?

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #9 on:** May 20, 2020, 15:11 »

Quote from: Visualab on May 20, 2020, 08:01

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 20, 2020, 06:27
Quote from: Visualab on May 20, 2020, 04:03
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 20, 2020, 01:13

Thankfully the one place where I've consistently not had a drop in earnings, is the unlimited subscription sites. Videoblocks....

Jan: 225
Feb: 300
Mar: 389
April: 674
May: 448

meanwhile your sales on ss collapse...strange coincidense here...

Well it is a strange coincidence if it only started in the last couple of months (if I've been on subscription sites for a couple of years), subscription sites have existed for several years, and only my SS and AS sales are falling, when Pond5 and everywhere else are steady. I appreciate you want to blame everything on subscription sites due to the intense disgust you feel for them, but it doesn't seem to tally. What's wrong with the Pond5 buyers? Brand loyalty, they like spending more money, they do less research about competition? Why are Sstr's sales dropping on SS if he doesn't contribute to sub sites? Is that my fault as well, or just subscription sites in general?

Visualab · « **Reply #10 on:** May 21, 2020, 04:07 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 20, 2020, 15:11

Quote from: Visualab on May 20, 2020, 08:01
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 20, 2020, 06:27
Quote from: Visualab on May 20, 2020, 04:03
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 20, 2020, 01:13

Thankfully the one place where I've consistently not had a drop in earnings, is the unlimited subscription sites. Videoblocks....

Jan: 225
Feb: 300
Mar: 389
April: 674
May: 448

meanwhile your sales on ss collapse...strange coincidense here...

Well it is a strange coincidence if it only started in the last couple of months (if I've been on subscription sites for a couple of years), subscription sites have existed for several years, and only my SS and AS sales are falling, when Pond5 and everywhere else are steady. I appreciate you want to blame everything on subscription sites due to the intense disgust you feel for them, but it doesn't seem to tally. What's wrong with the Pond5 buyers? Brand loyalty, they like spending more money, they do less research about competition? Why are Sstr's sales dropping on SS if he doesn't contribute to sub sites? Is that my fault as well, or just subscription sites in general?

Ir's pretty clear...you sell where you can undercut other artists like subscription plans or pond5 where you can set your price lower...it seems you have hard time to sell on agencies with fixed price where the competition is on quality and not price...

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #11 on:** May 21, 2020, 07:30 »

Ok, so if we just go with fixed price agencies... SS, AS and iStock... then what would be the cut-off point for you when it comes to having a hard time selling there, versus not having a hard time selling there (on the basis of average revenue per item over the last 12 months)?

$1, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100, $200, $500?

You must have a figure in mind if you feel I'm unable to compete on quality versus price? I honestly don't know what the figure is, but I'll be 'doing the math' shortly, and I'll let you know! If it is $500 (which I'm pretty confident it's nowhere near) then I really don't think that counts as having a hard time selling... and if it's $1 or less then I'd probably agree with you... but there must be a line between the two?

BigBubba · « **Reply #12 on:** May 21, 2020, 11:34 »

Quote from: Sstr on May 20, 2020, 03:39

Me too!

March $415,39
April $395,62
May $11,12

Not a single one video sale!
*, this is frustrating!

This is bad!

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Visualab · « **Reply #13 on:** May 21, 2020, 18:02 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 21, 2020, 07:30

Ok, so if we just go with fixed price agencies... SS, AS and iStock... then what would be the cut-off point for you when it comes to having a hard time selling there, versus not having a hard time selling there (on the basis of average revenue per item over the last 12 months)?

$1, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100, $200, $500?

You must have a figure in mind if you feel I'm unable to compete on quality versus price? I honestly don't know what the figure is, but I'll be 'doing the math' shortly, and I'll let you know! If it is $500 (which I'm pretty confident it's nowhere near) then I really don't think that counts as having a hard time selling... and if it's $1 or less then I'd probably agree with you... but there must be a line between the two?

i can tell you that i make enough money without to have to lower my price or sell on subs plans...if you need to do that(after 10 years of stock footage??)maybe your quality is not good enough to compete at fixed price...i consider a good month at ss when i get over 200 sales...

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2020, 00:02 »

With how many total clips though?

And I make enough money as well, I just decided to give the subscription sites a try and now I make more than I did before giving them a try. Sorry, but me having a couple of bad months on one of the many sites I contribute to, isn't proof that I can't compete on quality, or that subscription sites are the end of the world as we know it.

I worked it out by the way... I make roughly $20 per clip, per year on SS, AS and iS.

Visualab · « **Reply #15 on:** May 22, 2020, 04:32 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 22, 2020, 00:02

With how many total clips though?

And I make enough money as well, I just decided to give the subscription sites a try and now I make more than I did before giving them a try. Sorry, but me having a couple of bad months on one of the many sites I contribute to, isn't proof that I can't compete on quality, or that subscription sites are the end of the world as we know it.

I worked it out by the way... I make roughly $20 per clip, per year on SS, AS and iS.

4000clips...
Btw you'll see how unlimited subs plans will eat your sales on fixed price agencies...just sit and wait...and that's because there are many short sighted amateurs that fed them to earn few more hundreds dollars in the short run...why do you think ss followed the same path??now you'll see a big drop on your ss income just because of unlimited sub plans..

Cider Apple · « **Reply #16 on:** May 22, 2020, 05:52 »

Maybe I'm just lucky? I don't want to jinx myself, but I don't seem to be getting many low priced clips. In-fact I'm getting more higher priced clips from Shutterstock as of late. Like back in the old days. All are HD and nothing related to Corona.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #17 on:** May 22, 2020, 07:47 »

Quote from: Visualab on May 22, 2020, 04:32

4000clips...

So you make around $6,500 a month or more? Result!

A few hundred dollars in the short term? First, short term implies there's a long term... there could be, there might not be, no matter whether you or I contribute to subscription sites or not.

As for a few hundred dollars, I've made $17K just from unlimited subscription plans in the last 12 months. Not saying that to blow my own trumpet, just to show you that it's a little bit more than a few hundred dollars. And is there much difference in getting that money in the short term rather than in the long term? Is there a long term? Are subscription sites the new long term and you're just missing out on a few hundred dollars (or several thousand dollars) in the short term?

Visualab · « **Reply #18 on:** May 22, 2020, 10:43 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 22, 2020, 07:47

Quote from: Visualab on May 22, 2020, 04:32
4000clips...

So you make around $6,500 a month or more? Result!

A few hundred dollars in the short term? First, short term implies there's a long term... there could be, there might not be, no matter whether you or I contribute to subscription sites or not.

As for a few hundred dollars, I've made $17K just from unlimited subscription plans in the last 12 months. Not saying that to blow my own trumpet, just to show you that it's a little bit more than a few hundred dollars. And is there much difference in getting that money in the short term rather than in the long term? Is there a long term? Are subscription sites the new long term and you're just missing out on a few hundred dollars (or several thousand dollars) in the short term?

It all depends how this 17k from subs in a year erode your sales on other agencies..likely you would have done the same money or more without go on subs plan because buyers shop around and when they see the same footage on unlimited subs plan forget to sell it at normal price and say good buy to the 20/25$ per clip...
I define long term business decades not months...
I don't like to share my numbers public,i don't have to feed my ego...i'll pm it to you..

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