pancakes

MicrostockGroup Sponsors


Author Topic: Are US photo buyers bigots?  (Read 8023 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2009, 09:09 »
0
As for why a company may wish to stress white people in their advertising campaigns, that is an entirely different matter.  But I don't think it's as sinister as race bigitry.  They also don't usually feature overweight people, bald people, people with bad complexions, scares, etc.
That actually would be race bigotry, as their reasoning would be that the models aren't as 'attractive' or 'aspirational' to the target audience. However, whether in the cases you describe race bigotry is any worse than 'normal-looking' bigotry is one I'd leave to the lawyers. In UK law, discriminating against someone because of their race is a criminal offence, I'm not sure about discriminating against people because they aren't drop dead gorgeous. Flicking through UK women's magazines seems to show that it's mostly US companies which are still featuring ddg and 'improved' or 'highly improved' (look like plastic dolls) models in their ads, which IMO looks really dated.  UK companies seem more to feature clean, healthy, girl-next-door types, still 'more than averagely attractive' (subjective judgement) though.


« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2009, 10:23 »
0

 Hi All,

Maybe I didn't make myself very clear for some people on this site. I realize there are plenty of African American shots in stock I never said there wasn't, I produce them all the time. What I said was the percentage of sales is stronger in the U.S. market than in the Asian market or the European market for African American sales that was all, and it is true.
 My info is based on being owner in the largest multi ethnic agency in the stock business that spends great time, money and effort to research this as well as other similar subjects in great detail. The European agency that I am owner with offers the same detailed information on demographics and their returns in the European market. They also deliver detailed information based on sales to come to these conclusions. I try to answer questions I have knowledge of. If the second part of my statement was not appropriate for this conversation my apologies.

Best,
Jonathan

« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2009, 10:32 »
0
Maybe I didn't make myself very clear for some people on this site.

I don't think anyone was confused by the first part of what you said.

Quote
If the second part of my statement was not appropriate for this conversation my apologies.

Yes, I was trying to figure out how "every photographer has to draw their own philosophical line in the sand they will not cross over in producing images" applied to a discussion on buyers spending habits.  It seemed like a gear switch in the middle.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2009, 11:03 »
0
Maybe I didn't make myself very clear for some people on this site.
Yes, I was trying to figure out how "every photographer has to draw their own philosophical line in the sand they will not cross over in producing images" applied to a discussion on buyers spending habits.  It seemed like a gear switch in the middle.
Oh thank goodness. I thought I'd lost the plot!
« Last Edit: August 10, 2009, 12:05 by ShadySue »

« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2009, 11:56 »
0

As for why a company may wish to stress white people in their advertising campaigns, that is an entirely different matter.  But I don't think it's as sinister as race bigitry.  They also don't usually feature overweight people, bald people, people with bad complexions, scares, etc.


That's why I don't have any self portraits in my portfolio    :-[

« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2009, 12:16 »
0

As for why a company may wish to stress white people in their advertising campaigns, that is an entirely different matter.  But I don't think it's as sinister as race bigotry.  They also don't usually feature overweight people, bald people, people with bad complexions, scares, etc.


That's why I don't have any self portraits in my portfolio    :-[

Well, I do have a few, and being slightly overweight with a bad complexion and a few scares is probably why they don't sell well  :D LOL  :D

« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2009, 13:19 »
0
This story broke in the UK today about US publisher Bloomsbury 'whitewashing' a book cover;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/aug/10/bloomsbury-book-cover-race-row

dbvirago

« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2009, 13:40 »
0
My best selling models are black (whether they are African-American is irrelfevant - not all black people are American).

Why are they are the best sellers? Don't know. don't care

« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2009, 18:50 »
0
This story broke in the UK today about US publisher Bloomsbury 'whitewashing' a book cover;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/aug/10/bloomsbury-book-cover-race-row


This is actually shocking to me.  I am probably pretty naive. 

Here I have been busting hump to try and get some African-American models in my portfolio.  Buyers always seem to be moaning about the scarcity of them in the request forums.

Of course I live in the South (US) so I am well aware that racism is alive and well down here, but I thought after the last election that we were on the track to getting past that.

Like I said - naive. 


 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
14 Replies
7604 Views
Last post August 15, 2007, 15:09
by null
13 Replies
5262 Views
Last post June 06, 2008, 16:00
by thijsone
38 Replies
19849 Views
Last post August 15, 2008, 20:27
by khoj.badami
34 Replies
11828 Views
Last post April 29, 2009, 00:20
by thomasw
67 Replies
22077 Views
Last post June 16, 2009, 10:35
by ThomasAmby

Sponsors

Mega Bundle of 5,900+ Professional Lightroom Presets

Microstock Poll Results

Sponsors