Author Topic: Dreamstime prices -- did I miss something? (Read 5388 times)

stockmarketer · « **on:** March 01, 2011, 11:26 »

I'm used to seeing a wide range of earnings for Dreamstime, but one I got just a moment ago made me wonder...

Just got a .25 earning for an extrasmall download, using 1 credit (2010).

Moments earlier I got a .30 earning for an extrasmall dowload, using 1 credit (2010). Different pic, but everything else seems the same.

Both pics are at the same image level.

What's up with that? Am I missing something?

nruboc · « **Reply #1 on:** March 01, 2011, 11:38 »

Are the levels of both images the same? Oops, saw you said they were same level, ignore my post.

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #2 on:** March 01, 2011, 11:39 »

There was a discussion here about a month ago ... maybe longer ... about the same thing. I got a response from DT explaining that buyers purchase credits in different size packages; the larger the package the lower the price per image.

stockmarketer · « **Reply #3 on:** March 01, 2011, 12:04 »

Quote from: nruboc on March 01, 2011, 11:38

Are the levels of both images the same?

Yes, both the same level. Credits bought in the same year, so both used 1 credit.

Warren Price says this was discussed before. I must have missed it. But it doesn't make sense to me. OK, a buyer gets more credits for his money the more he spends, and that allows him to buy more pictures with his additional credits. But then the price of pictures also comes down when he buys a large credit package? Seems like that's double savings... or at least we're bearing the brunt of the discount he gets?

click_click · « **Reply #4 on:** March 01, 2011, 12:18 »

Quote from: stockmarketer on March 01, 2011, 12:04

... But then the price of pictures also comes down when he buys a large credit package? Seems like that's double savings... or at least we're bearing the brunt of the discount he gets?

I thought this was common practice at most agencies...

cathyslife · « **Reply #5 on:** March 01, 2011, 18:17 »

Quote from: click_click on March 01, 2011, 12:18

Quote from: stockmarketer on March 01, 2011, 12:04
... But then the price of pictures also comes down when he buys a large credit package? Seems like that's double savings... or at least we're bearing the brunt of the discount he gets?

I thought this was common practice at most agencies...

Yep, I think it is common practice. It never seems like marketing expenses come out of the agency's pocket...always the contributors.

Mantis · « **Reply #6 on:** March 01, 2011, 19:04 »

What about their partner sites? They get a cut from the sale, too....I'd assume. So if someone with the same credit package buys direct from DT then you get, say, .25 cents. If someone buys from a partner site they get some of the commission and you get less. Not 100% sure if this is the reason but it is plausible.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2011, 19:05 »

Quote from: click_click on March 01, 2011, 12:18

Quote from: stockmarketer on March 01, 2011, 12:04
... But then the price of pictures also comes down when he buys a large credit package? Seems like that's double savings... or at least we're bearing the brunt of the discount he gets?

I thought this was common practice at most agencies...

The only other practice is arguably worse - at FT they assign nominal values to a credit for the purposes of calculating royalties and those are based on which country you signed up in GBP, USD, EUR, etc. Regardless of what the buyer paid, the royalty is calculated on the assigned credit value. They trumpet how it could be that the buyer paid less and you get paid the same, but conveniently omit mention of all the currency conversion benefits they can reap as well as the small package purchases where they keep the extra.

I don't have any problem with the discounts from large credit bundles being used in calculating contributor royalties. What I do object to is when marketing promotions or sorry-we-borked-the-site discounts come out the contributor's hide too. Part of the large portion the agencies keep is for marketing expenses and running the site. They shouldn't try to transfer those to contributors, although iStock routinely does (not sure about other sites and one-off discounts)