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Author Topic: Are You Allowed To Imply A Model Is Gay? ATTN: Yuri  (Read 12829 times)

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« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2009, 16:49 »
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LOL, I have to be the most prejudice one here because my first thought was "Anyone who is that good looking HAS to be gay anyway."

Of course he is. Or he is a very good impersonator. Or both. The vast majority of my models is gay. Michelangelo was gay. Gays are just very good impersonators and actors. Why not tap into that resource? At least they are not heterophobes and they don't mind to figure in straight ads.  ;D


hali

« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2009, 17:00 »
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LOL, I have to be the most prejudice one here because my first thought was "Anyone who is that good looking HAS to be gay anyway."

Of course he is. Or he is a very good impersonator. Or both. The vast majority of my models is gay. Michelangelo was gay. Gays are just very good impersonators and actors. Why not tap into that resource? At least they are not heterophobes and they don't mind to figure in straight ads.  ;D

I have some model friends who are gay, and yes, being a heterosexual, I do find gay models better role players . I would not say impersonators, role playing is a better word. Maybe it's due to their feminine side, as I do find female models much better in role casting than male .
But that could  just in my experience circle.
Back to topic, no, I don't think it really matter if a model's photo is used as a gay or whatever. It's only a role.

e-person

« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2009, 17:06 »
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A model is supposed to be a professional. I advice people not to use family and friends. Being on the cover of a gay magazine might be an issue only if you are not a professional model. If you are, anyone should know it's just a photo.
Not that being on a gay magazine cover is a real issue. I mean, it's not a crime, just a matter of personal choices. :)

« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2009, 17:31 »
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I would add  that for a model, being on a frontpage of a magazine must be very rewarding, no matter the subject of the magazine.

Ths man must be proud of it!

Claude

« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2009, 17:37 »
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I heard two men talking in a pub.

One said to the other: "My mother made me a gay."
The other turned to him and said: "OH! Do you think if I gave her the material she would make me one as well?"

« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2009, 17:37 »
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Do all "models" realize that images may be used for anything?  I can expect that from professional models, but not from family, friends, neighbours.  I think photographers have the moral obligation to explain what is actually implied in a model release for RF license.

Famous people in a gay magazine will not be considered gay, however a nobody in a gay magazine will at least be considered a possible gay.  I have no problem with this, but the model, if not a professional, would have at least to stand friends and workmates' jokes.  :)

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2009, 17:37 »
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At least they are not heterophobes and they don't mind to figure in straight ads.  ;D

This may have been said in jest but it's probably the most poignant thing in this thread.  You're right - I never ask my gay models about appearing straight.  You are completely right and I take it back - I wouldn't care if that were my photo.  I hadn't thought about it this way...very smart stuff.

avava

« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2009, 18:33 »
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Clearly legal in the RF industry. Different if you or the model wishes in RM but RF that is not considered slanderous. Unless rules have changed in the past year.

Best,
AVAVA

« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2009, 23:49 »
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I just came from photoshopdisasters (one of my favourite sites!) and just by chance I ran into another one one one of Yuri's models.   I wonder who feels worse?  The hot guy on the gay magazine or the hot girl on whatever this is with whatever they did to her arm?


« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2009, 00:01 »
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I am gay and I would be so completely, totally offended if someone tried to imply I was straight - I would ask istock or any other stock site to ensure that such an offense would not ever happen - what would all my friends and family say? Not to mention my new spouse - we got married in Boston and people would start asking for all our wedding presents back if they saw me presented in such a light ... when I walked into my office people would snicker and say behind my back ... "Oh here comes the breeder ...".  What a terrible thing ...

« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2009, 02:26 »
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LOl  that gave me a laugh to start the morning  :)

I am gay and I would be so completely, totally offended if someone tried to imply I was straight - I would ask istock or any other stock site to ensure that such an offense would not ever happen - what would all my friends and family say? Not to mention my new spouse - we got married in Boston and people would start asking for all our wedding presents back if they saw me presented in such a light ... when I walked into my office people would snicker and say behind my back ... "Oh here comes the breeder ...".  What a terrible thing ...

« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2009, 06:34 »
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The hot guy on the gay magazine or the hot girl on whatever this is with whatever they did to her arm?

Holy heck, that is awful!  Ha!

« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2009, 06:48 »
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No need to ask permission here  ;D
Exclusive on DT and amongst my best sellers.
Proud and married. They also figured in this blogpost of the excellent blog of Ellen Bough on Dreamstime, stressing the market potential of "gay" images.

« Last Edit: January 16, 2009, 07:04 by FlemishDreams »

Microbius

« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2009, 07:36 »
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I just came from photoshopdisasters (one of my favourite sites!) and just by chance I ran into another one one one of Yuri's models.   I wonder who feels worse?  The hot guy on the gay magazine or the hot girl on whatever this is with whatever they did to her arm?


I love that site, it's hilarious  ;D

Tuilay

« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2009, 11:42 »
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I just came from photoshopdisasters (one of my favourite sites!) and just by chance I ran into another one one one of Yuri's models.   I wonder who feels worse?  The hot guy on the gay magazine or the hot girl on whatever this is with whatever they did to her arm?




holy smoke batman  :o
i am assuming that the hackjob is the mag, not the awful retouching of the photographer.
what a way to get an amputation  ;D

vonkara

« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2009, 12:33 »
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I just came from photoshopdisasters (one of my favourite sites!) and just by chance I ran into another one one one of Yuri's models.   I wonder who feels worse?  The hot guy on the gay magazine or the hot girl on whatever this is with whatever they did to her arm?


Yep that's totally awful. I don't even want to include the image in my quote haha
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shank_ali

« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2009, 13:03 »
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I had to look twice as the man has the same body shape as my own....
All models who sign our model release forms for us should be made fully aware of how the image might be used.
I have had one bad expierance..I asked my dentist and her two assistants to be models.They agreed.All was going well i was getting set up and the girls were signing the release forms.Then a practise partner came on the scene asking how can i stop his staff from having their faces put on naked bodies as i knew what could be achieved in photoshop!
The young girls lol with embaressment ,i was  out of my comfort zone anyway and this tithead just spoiled the shoot.He left saying ."hey if i wasent here you might of got away with it".


« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2009, 13:06 »
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I dont read all the threads/answers BUT turn it around:

my gay model get so upset to get into the front page in a straight ( very hetersexual) magazine...
what do we talk about ? I dont know our .....
/lena

« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2009, 13:13 »
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wanted to edit but it dont work:

I dont read all the threads/answers BUT turn it around: bla bla

my gay model get so upset to get into the front page in a straight ( very heterosexual) magazine...
what do we talk about ? I dont know do you... but this is some kind of a sexual Gaza...or..maybe we just have to accept we are all different...not dangerous...
love/lena
   

lisafx

« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2009, 15:16 »
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I had to look twice as the man has the same body shape as my own....
All models who sign our model release forms for us should be made fully aware of how the image might be used.
I have had one bad expierance..I asked my dentist and her two assistants to be models.They agreed.All was going well i was getting set up and the girls were signing the release forms.Then a practise partner came on the scene asking how can i stop his staff from having their faces put on naked bodies as i knew what could be achieved in photoshop!
The young girls lol with embaressment ,i was  out of my comfort zone anyway and this tithead just spoiled the shoot.He left saying ."hey if i wasent here you might of got away with it".


I've been asked the same thing a few times.  I generally point out that there is plenty of porn on the internet for free and evidently plenty of people willing to pose for it.  People don't need to bother photoshopping heads onto bodies.  And if they are inclined to bother with it, there are billions of free images online they can grab and use and nobody will be the wiser. 

Why would anyone with those type of intentions provide their ID and credit card info to join one of the sites that represents my work, and then pay $ for my copyrighted images just to butcher them into porn which is readily available all over the net for free?

That said, no, there are no guarantees and it is important potential models understand that. 

shank_ali

« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2009, 15:38 »
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Well said Lisa.I will try and explain to this guy before my next appointment how our files are watermarked and although a screenshot may be taken of  a micro image on a web page and cropped it is not much use to a person.
Also any person wanting to download a micro image needs to create an account and buys a bundle of credits,Like i said i was out of my comfort zone and thinking about the shots i wanted as the guy showed up and i totally lost any composure i had...I will be ready next time though.Lesson learned.

« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2009, 16:05 »
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I suspect the only person wanting to do such a thing would be someone who wanted to manipulate those particular models. Perhaps the guy who gave you a hard time would dearly love to see them naked so it was the first thought that entered his head.


 

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