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lisafx

« on: April 30, 2011, 16:40 »
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A couple of years ago I remember a conversation about whether it was worthwhile uploading there in hopes of stock sales.  I believe it was around the time Getty started their Flikr program. 

The consensus at the time seemed to be that paid sales at Flikr were few and far between.   Back then I concluded it wasn't worthwhile uploading to Flikr if you were hoping for stock sales.  Based on the below-referenced conversation, I am wondering if that might have changed...

http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/no-crisis-du-jour-at-istockphoto/msg198604/?topicseen#new


For anyone who uploads to Flikr - do you have your stock portfolio there?  Are you making any sales?  If so, how do they compare percentage-wise to your microstock sales? 


« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2011, 17:05 »
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The consensus at the time seemed to be that paid sales at Flikr were few and far between.  
For anyone who uploads to Flikr - do you have your stock portfolio there?  Are you making any sales?  If so, how do they compare percentage-wise to your microstock sales?  

The same consensus applies now. Mostly you get requests from people and companies to use your images for free. There is also a sizable theft problem from those not even polite enough to ask. I have made sales though by pointing to other sites and directly. I never point to a micro site.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2011, 18:33 by Zeus »

« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2011, 18:26 »
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I've never had a sale on Flickr, and the images I put up are sufficiently low resolution that I don't expect they're getting much if any free use.  I do it to share with friends, or to show off to the world at large.  In any event, it's a social rather than a business thing for me.

lisafx

« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2011, 22:37 »
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I do it to share with friends, or to show off to the world at large.  In any event, it's a social rather than a business thing for me.

This was always my understanding of what Flikr was about.  But now, with people suggesting stock buyers might be going there instead of the micros, it got me wondering.

Thanks for weighing in Zeus.  Nice to hear from someone who is selling there, even if the news isn't great.   

lagereek

« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2011, 23:52 »
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Lisa got me wondering too on this subject. I have never paid much attention to this Flickr, seams to be quite amateurish really but now when Getty owns it Im sure they find a way to get money from it??

« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2011, 23:56 »
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Getty doesn't own Flickr; Yahoo does.  Getty just uses Flickr members as a source of supply.

« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2011, 01:24 »
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I set up an account there and specifically upload a certain genre, with the idea of pointing certain buyers to it as my "portfolio" (really it's only for local buyers though).  It's a work in progress, and not professional, but it's easy to use.  I leave all family and casual stuff out of it on purpose. 

I too fear that my small copyright watermark is not deterrent enough for a thief.

I get very few views, and I've never had a request for an image, so perhaps I should redo some of my keywords...and images too  ::)

LSD72

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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2011, 01:38 »
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I just use mine for social stuff. Like if I want to post on a photo forum or email links back home to my Mom and Bro.

« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2011, 03:01 »
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I use Flickr to show my portfolio and direct traffic to my website, placing a link with each image description.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasambydesign/

(I asked the Flickr staff to review my account and they told me it was okay)

« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2011, 03:31 »
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Check out the Flickr Collection at Getty Images. Some fine work.

(BTW AFAIK this is a route which is open to both Exclusives and non exclusives).

lagereek

« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2011, 03:54 »
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Getty doesn't own Flickr; Yahoo does.  Getty just uses Flickr members as a source of supply.

Oh OK,  I actually thought they owned part of it or something like that.

Anyway, so how are they earning any money then?  I mean it cant all be freebies, or cant it?

« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2011, 04:00 »
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lagereek

« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2011, 04:03 »
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so how are they earning any money then?


Flickr Collection at Getty Images.



Thanks!  just goes to show,  I would never had known.  So thats how they make money out of it but what about the photographers?  are they contracted under Getty then.

« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2011, 04:09 »
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lthn

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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2011, 04:29 »
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I was approached 7 times for usage of my pictures in flickr, 6 of those worked out. Contrary to most of what I read (and that's why I don't beleive it at all, i think its just ppl trying to bash flickr, for some weirdo reason) nobody ever asked to use my pics for free, every time they offered basically the same amount, about 100$, or 80 euro, etc... it was for a sinlge time usage.... so /usage they were helluva better deal than micros.

ShadySue

« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2011, 05:10 »
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so how are they earning any money then?


Flickr Collection at Getty Images.


So I guess Getty contact you and ask you to provide MRs AND/or PRs if they choose your pics?

« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2011, 05:20 »
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lagereek

« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2011, 05:54 »
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yes, same here, I have been contacted several times to give pictures but never given it a second thought, didnt really know what it was all about.

« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2011, 06:29 »
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FAQ

Well, you certainly did your part and got a bunch of links to Getty in there!  ;)

Aside from the Getty collection, I always thought flickr was like deviantArt...people putting up photos to share with others. Not necessarily their own photos, but ones they came across that they thought were cool. A lot of stealing of images. Maybe some sales, but mostly a place to post your pics for sharing with friends and family. In fact, last I read something about it, I thought you weren't allowed to sell pictures directly from flikr, as it is NOT a commercial site. Since Thomas Amby asked, I presume it's ok to link to your personal website. I can see how that might be useful.

« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2011, 07:02 »
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Well, you certainly did your part and got a bunch of links to Getty in there!  ;)

Linking directly to the information people ask about is often one of the best way of linking to the information which people ask about. It's not a conspiracy and I am sure you would agree that there are some great images in the Getty Flickr collection. ETA: and there are many more images which are available at Flickr under the request-to-license program.

This is something which exists as a potential avenue for photographers in general - for example whether they are exclusive (with iStockphoto) or not. Some people are going to see that as a potential alternative to Vetta for getting images into Getty - which is clearly a potentially very important outlet as anyone with a few Vetta sales there will probably agree.

You can search the Flickr discussion group threads to read different people talking about their experiences of whether it works for them or not.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2011, 07:08 by bunhill »

helix7

« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2011, 17:54 »
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I've used flickr primarily just as a promotional venue for just a handful of images. I upload low-res watermarked images there and link to GL or my own personal site. But lately I've been rethinking that strategy. No doubt it's silly to direct any sales to a microstock site. I'm just not sure what my strategy should be for flickr. Link to purchase at my personal store, link to my personal site with licensing info, no link and just hope someone contacts me to license an image, etc.

lisafx

« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2011, 18:31 »
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Really good discussion.  Thanks to you Flikr experienced folks for sharing your info. 

@Thomasamby - what you are doing is very clever!  I can certainly see how that would be a promising way to drive traffic to your personal site.   Do you think you have gotten an increase in traffic, and/or sales as a result of your Flikr presence? 

« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2011, 21:35 »
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I use Flickr to show my portfolio and direct traffic to my website, placing a link with each image description.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasambydesign/

(I asked the Flickr staff to review my account and they told me it was okay)


That's what I did but for some reason I never get any inquiries...  ???

How is your feedback from Flickr visitors? Do you have a consistent stream of buyers from there?

lthn

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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2011, 06:20 »
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IMHO, a site like flickr -just like your own site- supposed to be for promoting yourself as photographer to get commissions, jobs. Setting up your own site for selling shots escpecially  of the microstock kind is pretty much useless, you'll never be able to compete with the agencies... and sales thru flickr are good value usually, but rare. I just use it to promote my own showcase site, get somewhat better ranking thru the clicks, and to have even more stuff up there for anyone who wants to see what I do, and for my models to see what . I'v done to them recently : )

« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2011, 16:54 »
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I recently put a dozen or so images on Flikr so I can't talk from my experience. But a friend of mine uses it for his images, mainly landscapes, and he does get the occasional sale from it. It's also pleasant to get requests to add images to someone's Flikr group although I have no idea if there is any benefit doing so other than feeling warm and fuzzy.

It's easy to upload there especially if you send small files optimized for the web. I was disappointed that my view numbers haven't been higher until I realized that, according to a counter during uploading, Flikr as getting 5,000 to 8,000 images PER MINUTE.
 
When you scan through recent shots there you see that there is a huge range of quality from superior to gag-me-with-a-spoon ugly. Some Folks seem to upload every digital shot they every took. Can you imagine being a microstock-style reviewer sifting through all that garbage looking for pearls?


 

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