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« Reply #175 on: May 31, 2011, 14:41 »
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If you do not want the agencies to sell your photos at high prices, you can always sell cheap from your own site. If you do sell from your own site, I'd be curious if you are successful in selling cheap.

That's just silly. Of course private website sales can't compare with sales by a mega-corporation with a big advertising budget and an established reputation as a major image source.

In any case, everybody would like the agencies to sell their images at high prices. What's less popular is agencies putting up prices to the point where images don't sell. Some of us prefer making money to pricing ourselves out of the market.


« Reply #176 on: May 31, 2011, 15:04 »
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Nobody - let me repeat - NOBODY is complaining about $1-$10 prices.
I've actually been complaining about the $1-$10 price point.  ;D I'd actually like to see micro move into the $10-$50 price range.

Slovenian

« Reply #177 on: May 31, 2011, 15:22 »
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Nobody - let me repeat - NOBODY is complaining about $1-$10 prices.
I've actually been complaining about the $1-$10 price point.  ;D I'd actually like to see micro move into the $10-$50 price range.
+1 and P+ (or similar collections) into the 50-100 and that we'd, at the same time, start getting the deserved 60% of royalties. I'd settle for 50% if the traffic was crazy;)

Joking aside, I wish prices would go up, because currently they're absurd. Seeing high end photography getting sold for a handful of dollars is ridiculous, but at the same time, that's the contributors choice. We're reaping what we sow...

lisafx

« Reply #178 on: May 31, 2011, 17:42 »
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Nobody - let me repeat - NOBODY is complaining about $1-$10 prices.
I've actually been complaining about the $1-$10 price point.  ;D I'd actually like to see micro move into the $10-$50 price range.

Ah yes.  That's a different matter :)

I believe BS's comment was about buyers (or as he refers to them "cheapskates") complaining about $1 - $10 prices.  Which they never have.  
« Last Edit: May 31, 2011, 17:44 by lisafx »

« Reply #179 on: May 31, 2011, 19:13 »
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Ah yes.  That's a different matter :)

I believe BS's comment was about buyers (or as he refers to them "cheapskates") complaining about $1 - $10 prices.  Which they never have.  

I did actually know that you were talking about buyers. I was just stirring things up.  :D

« Reply #180 on: May 31, 2011, 20:12 »
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i recently joined Photographer's Direct, take a look at their recent sale prices :

http://www.photographersdirect.com/sellers/buyerslist.asp

no sales so far but it's an interesting alternative niche, we'll see how it goes.

« Reply #181 on: May 31, 2011, 20:15 »
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Nobody - let me repeat - NOBODY is complaining about $1-$10 prices.
I've actually been complaining about the $1-$10 price point.  ;D I'd actually like to see micro move into the $10-$50 price range.

Ah yes.  That's a different matter :)

I believe BS's comment was about buyers (or as he refers to them "cheapskates") complaining about $1 - $10 prices.  Which they never have.  

Yes, i was referring to buyers.
Well, up to you, there's space for anyone in this business, micro, mid, macro, and anything in between.

At the moment i'm exploring other sources of income, merchandising, art galleries, assignments...

helix7

« Reply #182 on: May 31, 2011, 22:06 »
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i recently joined Photographer's Direct...


http://www.photographersdirect.com/sellers/microstock_sites.asp

Just another antique, clinging to old ideas and misconceptions about microstock. Good luck with that one.

« Reply #183 on: May 31, 2011, 23:57 »
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i recently joined Photographer's Direct...


http://www.photographersdirect.com/sellers/microstock_sites.asp

Just another antique, clinging to old ideas and misconceptions about microstock. Good luck with that one.


i just received a request email from them, a client needs RM images of saudi arabia (taxi, public lights, road signs, people, etc ?) he pays 50 UK pounds/photo, unfortunately i've nothing about saudi arabia but i'm glad there are agencies like this offering a kind of alternative to automated stock.
as far as i understood their cut is just 10-20% of the sale in case the clients like your photos and judging from their recent sales quality is really of secondary importance...

lagereek

« Reply #184 on: June 01, 2011, 00:08 »
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+1,  I would also like to see prices increase, I mean whats the point in pretending? its hardly micro anymore and the funny part is: people tend to buy anyway, in any branch.

« Reply #185 on: June 01, 2011, 01:13 »
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i recently joined Photographer's Direct, take a look at their recent sale prices :

http://www.photographersdirect.com/sellers/buyerslist.asp

no sales so far but it's an interesting alternative niche, we'll see how it goes.


Then why are you wasting time here, since you have either violated photographersdirect's membership terms or you are not selling anything on microstock sites?

« Reply #186 on: June 01, 2011, 03:40 »
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i recently joined Photographer's Direct, take a look at their recent sale prices :

http://www.photographersdirect.com/sellers/buyerslist.asp

no sales so far but it's an interesting alternative niche, we'll see how it goes.


32 posts in 2 days.
If you've joined photographers direct then not much point hanging here.
They want us all exterminated.

« Reply #187 on: June 01, 2011, 04:58 »
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^^^Black Sheep/Old Hippy likes to poke fun at us here.  Unfortunately he usually goes way to far at some point and gets banned.  Then he reappears a few months later and we go through all this again.  Someone did post his real identity here once and I remember that he does this on other forums too.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2011, 04:59 by sharpshot »

« Reply #188 on: June 02, 2011, 02:37 »
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^^^Black Sheep/Old Hippy likes to poke fun at us here.  Unfortunately he usually goes way to far at some point and gets banned.  Then he reappears a few months later and we go through all this again.  Someone did post his real identity here once and I remember that he does this on other forums too.

Macrosaur/old hippy/pesaus and alike

« Reply #189 on: June 02, 2011, 12:17 »
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hahaha ! paranoia abunds here.

« Reply #190 on: June 02, 2011, 12:28 »
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^^^Black Sheep/Old Hippy likes to poke fun at us here.  Unfortunately he usually goes way to far at some point and gets banned.  Then he reappears a few months later and we go through all this again.  Someone did post his real identity here once and I remember that he does this on other forums too.

Macrosaur/old hippy/pesaus and alike

I was thinking Molka.

« Reply #191 on: June 02, 2011, 12:43 »
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^^^And Batman?  It's either all the same person or they're all travel photographers that detest microstock and end up with severe keyboard rage.

hahaha ! paranoia abunds here.

Just had a look at some old posts by Macrosaur and the way you both use a small "i" and your writing style is almost identical.  Sorry, no paranoia here, your the Macrosaur in sheep's clothing :)
« Last Edit: June 02, 2011, 12:55 by sharpshot »


« Reply #192 on: June 02, 2011, 13:45 »
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^^^And Batman?  It's either all the same person or they're all travel photographers that detest microstock and end up with severe keyboard rage.

hahaha ! paranoia abunds here.

Just had a look at some old posts by Macrosaur and the way you both use a small "i" and your writing style is almost identical.  Sorry, no paranoia here, you're the Macrosaur in sheep's clothing :)

I guess it's not paranoia if it is true, eh?

donding

  • Think before you speak
« Reply #193 on: June 02, 2011, 14:50 »
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i recently joined Photographer's Direct, take a look at their recent sale prices :

http://www.photographersdirect.com/sellers/buyerslist.asp

no sales so far but it's an interesting alternative niche, we'll see how it goes.


You're joking right???
Don't you know one of their policy rules is that you don't do microstock!

« Reply #194 on: June 02, 2011, 18:17 »
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Hi All,

 I don't mind the pricing at all levels of stock what I would like to see is the percentage split change. When I see smaller third party agencies making a great return to the company while offering 50/50 splits, I know for a fact it is possible and years ago that was the standard when film was scanned and art directors went on location with their photographers. If anything running a online stock agency is lest costly for the agency than ever before. Taking 80+ % is just bad business and doesn't help the industry grow. Gotta feed the farmers if you want them to grow high yielding tasty crops.

Best,
Jonathan

« Reply #195 on: June 02, 2011, 19:47 »
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i recently joined Photographer's Direct, take a look at their recent sale prices :

http://www.photographersdirect.com/sellers/buyerslist.asp

no sales so far but it's an interesting alternative niche, we'll see how it goes.


You're joking right???
Don't you know one of their policy rules is that you don't do microstock!


Their market is completely different. They only sell RM and receive weird requests from buyers, you will hardly
find the images they need on micro RF.

On the other side, i would never sell patterns and backgrounds on RM, never sold one so far but they sell
fine on micros so who can blame me and the production cost was very low, to each his own.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #196 on: June 02, 2011, 21:08 »
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On the other side, i would never sell patterns and backgrounds on RM, never sold one so far
Well, clearly you can't have sold one RM if you don't offer them RM. QED.

« Reply #197 on: June 02, 2011, 21:30 »
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On the other side, i would never sell patterns and backgrounds on RM, never sold one so far
Well, clearly you can't have sold one RM if you don't offer them RM. QED.

I've a few hundreds patterns on Alamy, they never made a sale nor a single zoom so far, wasted time, or maybe it's just Alamy.

lagereek

« Reply #198 on: June 03, 2011, 00:12 »
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Hi All,

 I don't mind the pricing at all levels of stock what I would like to see is the percentage split change. When I see smaller third party agencies making a great return to the company while offering 50/50 splits, I know for a fact it is possible and years ago that was the standard when film was scanned and art directors went on location with their photographers. If anything running a online stock agency is lest costly for the agency than ever before. Taking 80+ % is just bad business and doesn't help the industry grow. Gotta feed the farmers if you want them to grow high yielding tasty crops.

Best,
Jonathan

Hi Jonathan!

Yep remember the days well, still doing it though.

Todays on-line sites are only in it for a quick buck, thats it.   Thats the differance.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #199 on: June 03, 2011, 05:42 »
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On the other side, i would never sell patterns and backgrounds on RM, never sold one so far
Well, clearly you can't have sold one RM if you don't offer them RM. QED.

I've a few hundreds patterns on Alamy, they never made a sale nor a single zoom so far, wasted time, or maybe it's just Alamy.
You've made two statements:
"I would never sell patterns and backgrounds on RM, never sold one"
and
"I've a few hundred patterns on Alamy, never made a sale."
So, are your Alamy patterns RF?


 

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