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« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2011, 09:19 »
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here's my pretty graphs.

July 2011


Aug 2011


My interesting observations...
iStock is stealing more pie than Fotolia and Dreamstime is unfortunately loosing ground as well.

DepositPhotos and Photodune on the other hand are slowly (or perhaps quickly) gaining bigger pieces of pie

.. and don't forget to put in your votes :)


« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2011, 09:52 »
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My Pie was mostly Shutterstock, largely due to 3 ELs. So I'll get my biggest microstock payment from an agency next month which will be $150. The others all performed pretty poorly in August.

« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2011, 09:55 »
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My second best month ever, and the best if you ignore last September's upload payment at Veer.  Up 77% on July, and up 58% on August, 2010.  Only Fotolia, StockXpert, Deposit and StockFresh were down; Shutterstock was up big (+69%), as were iStock (+191%), 123RF (+92%), Veer (+800%), CanStock (+490%), Crestock (+1050%) and Envato (+74%).  Shutterstock was 41% of my total, followed by iStock (14%), Veer (10%), 123RF (8%), Dreamstime (7%), CanStock (5%), Fotolia (4%), Envato (4%), BigStock (3%) and Deposit (2%).

lisafx

« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2011, 12:19 »
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Boy, with all the bad news around here, it's really nice to read this thread and see how well most folks did in August!  

My August was good too.  I am up 6% on last month, and up 13% on August 2010!  This is the first month I have gained over the prior year in well over a year.  Very welcome change of direction!

The gains were mostly at Istock and SS.  Although my DL's at Istock were about 2/3 of last year, P+ really fattened out the totals.  I had my second BME of the year at SS.  They are booming!  

DT is dead even with last year for the second month in a row, and FT accelerates its downward tumble (for me).  

Here's the stats, along with the gain or loss from last year in ():

ISP   41% (+17%)
SS   22% (+42%)!!
DT   13% (=)
Fot   12% (-29%)
Big   4%
123   3%
Can   2%
Alm   2%

Of the smaller and/or newer sites, only Photodune placed in my stats, earning 1%, but at least that was enough to get me a payout my first month.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2011, 12:22 by lisafx »

Slovenian

« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2011, 12:43 »
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Boy, with all the bad news around here, it's really nice to read this thread and see how well most folks did in August!  

My August was good too.  I am up 6% on last month, and up 13% on August 2010!  This is the first month I have gained over the prior year in well over a year.  Very welcome change of direction!

The gains were mostly at Istock and SS.  Although my DL's at Istock were about 2/3 of last year, P+ really fattened out the totals.  I had my second BME of the year at SS.  They are booming!  

DT is dead even with last year for the second month in a row, and FT accelerates its downward tumble (for me).  

Here's the stats, along with the gain or loss from last year in ():

ISP   41% (+17%)
SS   22% (+42%)!!
DT   13% (=)
Fot   12% (-29%)
Big   4%
123   3%
Can   2%
Alm   2%

Of the smaller and/or newer sites, only Photodune placed in my stats, earning 1%, but at least that was enough to get me a payout my first month.

Wow this must be the first time I've heard someone earning almost twice as much at IS than at SS. I'm really happy this are going for the better for us and that there's some hope yet for MS. I just hope our good reports won't give greedy agency owners any ideas :-\

lisafx

« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2011, 13:01 »
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Wow this must be the first time I've heard someone earning almost twice as much at IS than at SS.

That has nearly always been the case for me.  And it's my answer to the idiots who wonder why I don't just up and quit Istock every time they do something I don't like. 

Slovenian

« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2011, 13:06 »
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Wow this must be the first time I've heard someone earning almost twice as much at IS than at SS.

That has nearly always been the case for me.  And it's my answer to the idiots who wonder why I don't just up and quit Istock every time they do something I don't like. 

But you seem to be in a position to think about dropping FT ;)

« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2011, 13:33 »
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This is my stock photography sales statistic for August 2011. You can find a complete list of stock photography agencies that I work with here.



These are for me the best 4 performing stock agencies for August 2011:

    Shutterstock
    DepositPhotos
    Dreamstime
    iStockPhoto

I expended to have a drop in August, but the drop was much softer with only 11% compared to July. And an increase of 23% compared to August 2010. It was the best month ever for Dreamstime. At this point I also like to mention DepositPhotos. If I don't take in account the first view month where I received the promotion to get paid for uploads, then August 2011 would have been the best month ever for DepositPhotos. DepositPhotos has shown a constant increase of sales for several month.


(This statistic include referral earning at the different agencies)

grp_photo

« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2011, 13:59 »
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Wow this must be the first time I've heard someone earning almost twice as much at IS than at SS.

That has nearly always been the case for me.  And it's my answer to the idiots who wonder why I don't just up and quit Istock every time they do something I don't like. 

But you seem to be in a position to think about dropping FT ;)
I think pretty soon everybody is in the position that they can quit FT. I'm with them since 2005 and I do have a pretty large portfolio with them, they always have been pretty constant but in the last couple of months they are going down down down. This month is no exception. I never really liked them but they always used be the second or third earner of the Microstock-agencies for me. I would feel they loss of income but would still be pretty happy if they would choke on their greed.

« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2011, 15:30 »
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Boy, with all the bad news around here, it's really nice to read this thread and see how well most folks did in August!  

My August was good too.  I am up 6% on last month, and up 13% on August 2010!  This is the first month I have gained over the prior year in well over a year.  Very welcome change of direction!

The gains were mostly at Istock and SS.  Although my DL's at Istock were about 2/3 of last year, P+ really fattened out the totals.  I had my second BME of the year at SS.  They are booming!  

DT is dead even with last year for the second month in a row, and FT accelerates its downward tumble (for me).  

Here's the stats, along with the gain or loss from last year in ():

ISP   41% (+17%)
SS   22% (+42%)!!
DT   13% (=)
Fot   12% (-29%)
Big   4%
123   3%
Can   2%
Alm   2%

Of the smaller and/or newer sites, only Photodune placed in my stats, earning 1%, but at least that was enough to get me a payout my first month.

so does that mean you had a BME again finally, or was the last BME still in 2010 ??

Slovenian

« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2011, 15:47 »
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Wow this must be the first time I've heard someone earning almost twice as much at IS than at SS.

That has nearly always been the case for me.  And it's my answer to the idiots who wonder why I don't just up and quit Istock every time they do something I don't like. 

But you seem to be in a position to think about dropping FT ;)

BTW Lisa, this crazy idea just popped into my head; you going exclusive would actually make sense if IS is by far your strongest earner. No hassle with multiple agencies and I think they'd treat an exclusive BD very well, you just might get a big boost in sales ;)

lisafx

« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2011, 16:58 »
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so does that mean you had a BME again finally, or was the last BME still in 2010 ??

I had a BME at Shutterstock, but I am still substantially short of my BME in October 2009.  August was a bit of a return to my average, after several below average months. 

lisafx

« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2011, 17:00 »
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BTW Lisa, this crazy idea just popped into my head; you going exclusive would actually make sense if IS is by far your strongest earner. No hassle with multiple agencies and I think they'd treat an exclusive BD very well, you just might get a big boost in sales ;)

I thought the same thing a year and a half ago.  But since then I have come to the conclusion that Getty doesn't treat ANYONE very well.

« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2011, 18:54 »
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BTW Lisa, this crazy idea just popped into my head; you going exclusive would actually make sense if IS is by far your strongest earner. No hassle with multiple agencies and I think they'd treat an exclusive BD very well, you just might get a big boost in sales ;)

I thought the same thing a year and a half ago.  But since then I have come to the conclusion that Getty doesn't treat ANYONE very well.

Your husbend should treat you well.  Your ditributor should make you the most money possible for you.
You being exclusive to IS would most probably make you more money then then today.

« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2011, 19:24 »
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Your ditributor should make you the most money possible for you.
You being exclusive to IS would most probably make you more money then then today.

"Another large Kool-Aid for my friend here please Barman"

« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2011, 20:02 »
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BTW Lisa, this crazy idea just popped into my head; you going exclusive would actually make sense if IS is by far your strongest earner. No hassle with multiple agencies and I think they'd treat an exclusive BD very well, you just might get a big boost in sales ;)

I thought the same thing a year and a half ago.  But since then I have come to the conclusion that Getty doesn't treat ANYONE very well.

Your husbend should treat you well.  Your ditributor should make you the most money possible for you.
You being exclusive to IS would most probably make you more money then then today.

On one of the (several) prior occasions when Lisa was sitting on that fence of hers - the one she kindly lent me as I tried to decide if I should leave being exclusive - I had told her (a) iStock would be lucky to have her as an exclusive and (b) that I thought she'd do very well as one - I think that was in 2009 or early 2010.

I knew I was taking a risk back in 2008 given Getty's prior behavior with every other acquisition and how they've treated their photographers. I gambled that it would take them a while to start Getty-izing iStock and that perhaps if the company was doing well they'd just leave it alone.

Wrong! The fact that H&F wanted its half-billion dollar dividend last year certainly didn't help, but Getty's now firmly in the driver's seat and Lisa would be no more "safe" than anyone else in their march for a max of 20% for any content and short term profits over long term growth of both the business and the contributors.

Given the size of Lisa's portfolio, the massive amount of work (not to mention loss of search position) to undo going exclusive if it didn't work out in a year or two would be horrendous - there's no simple "try it and see if you like it" when you're that established at so many top sites.

In short, I can't think of a worse idea now than for Lisa to go exclusive with iStock. Can't trust Getty one iota and she has too much to lose and too little to gain.

« Reply #41 on: September 01, 2011, 20:04 »
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BME  on IS and it wasn't even close.  Almost did it on SS.  BME on 123rf.  That site has really taken off. 


« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2011, 20:19 »
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... Given the size of Lisa's portfolio, the massive amount of work (not to mention loss of search position) to undo going exclusive if it didn't work out in a year or two would be horrendous - there's no simple "try it and see if you like it" when you're that established at so many top sites.

In short, I can't think of a worse idea now than for Lisa to go exclusive with iStock. Can't trust Getty one iota and she has too much to lose and too little to gain.

Is the correct answer. Volunteering for exclusivity at Istock has always been a dubious and risky gamble IMHO which I'm pretty sure has cost those who've chosen it a great deal of money over the years. Unfortunately it will probably prove to be an accelerating loss as time goes on. To actually choose to go exclusive now would be nothing less than insane.

lisafx

« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2011, 22:15 »
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Your husbend should treat you well.  Your ditributor should make you the most money possible for you.
You being exclusive to IS would most probably make you more money then then today.

First off, anyone with whom you have a relationship should treat you well.  A business relationship is no exception.

Wasn't it in this very thread that you were bemoaning your terrible month at your ONLY distributor?  

Quite a bad month for us at IS.

Exclusives at IS at 30%
Down 5% from last month and 23% from 2 months ago.
Up 180% from 08/10

:(

I don't like terrible months either, but they are mitigated by the fact that I have a lot of outlets.  When one is down, another is up.

I had a BME at Shutterstock.  Wouldn't have if I was exclusive at Istock.  
« Last Edit: September 01, 2011, 22:22 by lisafx »

lisafx

« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2011, 22:18 »
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... Given the size of Lisa's portfolio, the massive amount of work (not to mention loss of search position) to undo going exclusive if it didn't work out in a year or two would be horrendous - there's no simple "try it and see if you like it" when you're that established at so many top sites.

In short, I can't think of a worse idea now than for Lisa to go exclusive with iStock. Can't trust Getty one iota and she has too much to lose and too little to gain.

Is the correct answer. Volunteering for exclusivity at Istock has always been a dubious and risky gamble IMHO which I'm pretty sure has cost those who've chosen it a great deal of money over the years. Unfortunately it will probably prove to be an accelerating loss as time goes on. To actually choose to go exclusive now would be nothing less than insane.

You are both absolutely right!  I would think it would be obvious, but maybe only to those of us with the perspective to see beyond the Getty sphere of influence?

« Reply #45 on: September 02, 2011, 03:31 »
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All bussiness decisions involve taking a risk.  In your case the risk is quite low IMO since you would most certainly make more $$$, your "punishment" would probebly be a higher volatility (my 6 monthly RPI SD is 15% BTW, not that bad)
I am not saying there aren't dissadvantages to such a move, I am not some IS fanboy or trying to persuade you to go exclusive at IS (I have enough competition as is, thank you). All I am doing is stateting the logical opinion based on FACTS and NOT feelings that you would probebly make more money as an exclusive, nothing more and nothing less.

Slovenian

« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2011, 04:06 »
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Can't trust Getty one iota and she has too much to lose and too little to gain.

I get the point, but putting that aside (not thinking about exclusivity at any site), who can you trust nowadays? SS is the only left that didn't cut commissions (but didn't raise them either, like they used to every year). But OTOH SS has hurt me more in August with their crazy rejections than any site has with cuts. Not that trusts matters as much if you're on multiple sites, but the bottom line are earnings and commissions get cut everywhere. To me FT is much worse than IS. Sales volume is pathetic (in my case) and they've cut commissions twice this year. IS has at least introduced the P+ which was a nice boost and at least from time to time sales do rise.

« Reply #47 on: September 02, 2011, 08:52 »
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Agency Aug.2011 (Aug.2010)

Fot   26% (18%)+
SS   25% (24%)+
ISP   23% (27%)-
DT   12% (19%)-
Can   7% (3%)+
123   4% (1%)+
Big   1% (2%)-
Stfr   1% -
Veer   1% (5%)-

RPD 0,88 EUR (0,99 EUR)-

« Reply #48 on: September 02, 2011, 09:01 »
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Agency Aug.2011 (Aug.2010)

Fot   26% (18%)+
SS   25% (24%)+
ISP   23% (27%)-
DT   12% (19%)-
Can   7% (3%)+
123   4% (1%)+
Big   1% (2%)-
Stfr   1% -
Veer   1% (5%)-

RPD 0,88 EUR (0,99 EUR)-

Impressive increases, but knowing the size of the ports. puts them into perspective.

« Reply #49 on: September 02, 2011, 09:18 »
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Impressive increases, but knowing the size of the ports. puts them into perspective.
130-160 vector illustrations.


 

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