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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Stock Discussion => Topic started by: chromaco on March 08, 2013, 00:07
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This one has been bothering me for a while now. I think it would be interesting to see what the demographic of MSG is as far as port size goes. It also might help with trying to understand the poll results particularly when comparing independents versus exclusives.
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really hoping to push myself into the 500-1000 bracket in the next few months. I've got 374 images in my "to do" folder.
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One might have to refine this to be really meaningful. Someone can have 1000-2000 images at a site like YAY or Pond5 or even MostPhotos (no moderation) and zero at the top Tier due to quality issues. Can not really compare that to someone with 1000-2000 at the top tier sites.
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One might have to refine this to be really meaningful. Someone can have 1000-2000 images at a site like YAY or Pond5 or even MostPhotos (no moderation) and zero at the top Tier due to quality issues. Can not really compare that to someone with 1000-2000 at the top tier sites.
I agree, it would be better to just include the top 4.
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6000+ on as, More if their editorial red were broader
4000+ on st, steady for last yr as they remove unsold. Images
I do agree tho might have better indication by reporting size on best performing site
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One might have to refine this to be really meaningful. Someone can have 1000-2000 images at a site like YAY or Pond5 or even MostPhotos (no moderation) and zero at the top Tier due to quality issues. Can not really compare that to someone with 1000-2000 at the top tier sites.
I agree, it would be better to just include the top 4.
I don't submit to the top 4 anymore and SS is pretty lenient with vectors, so I don't really see the difference.
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I think you are going to be surprised at the level and quality of people here when the top category gets overloaded. You needed more levels above 4000!
Survey after survey has shown that the top 5% of all microstock artists are represented here.
One might have to refine this to be really meaningful. Someone can have 1000-2000 images at a site like YAY or Pond5 or even MostPhotos (no moderation) and zero at the top Tier due to quality issues. Can not really compare that to someone with 1000-2000 at the top tier sites.
I agree, it would be better to just include the top 4.
I agree mostly, but top ten would be fair enough to include the sites that matter?
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What I am most interested in is the number of smaller portfolios. So far 75% of exclusives have over 1000 images compared to only 46% of independents. The smaller portfolios which in the case of our group of contributors (active and interested) are likely to be the newer contributors. Far less of these contributors are exclusive and therefor their results tend to lower the earning ratings of the other sites. This is not about quality but more so about time invested in building a portfolio. It seems to me that the exclusives tend to have been around longer.
I have seen some comments which suggest that by independents adding up all sites might be a reasonable comparison to the exclusive earnings rating. I'm just not convinced that conclusion is completely accurate.
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I have seen some comments which suggest that by independents adding up all sites might be a reasonable comparison to the exclusive earnings rating. I'm just not convinced that conclusion is completely accurate.
What do you think, that the exclusives earn more or the independents earn more?
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I think if the port sizes were equal that the SS earnings would be much higher.
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I have seen some comments which suggest that by independents adding up all sites might be a reasonable comparison to the exclusive earnings rating. I'm just not convinced that conclusion is completely accurate.
What do you think, that the exclusives earn more or the independents earn more?
Even if everyone revealed their actual $$ earned last year, what would it tell you? That some people do better at some sites or under certain models than others. Hardly news.
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I wonder if we could pull the data out of leafs master income survey? Maybe add in some other fields to capture this thought?
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This is a very open-ended subject as we each have different parameters in what we do. We've all seen multiple images of the same subject over and over again bloating a contributors total uploads way beyond what others have online. For an important reason, I usually limit an upload from a shoot to one, sometimes two retouched images. Because #1, they're the best in my opinion and #2 because at a couple of agencies the value goes up for those images more for multiple sales of that one picture than if the concept were spread across 5 or 6 from the shoot. I just do better.
Anyway, I have nearly 700 images at my best selling agency and fewer elsewhere, usually 400-500. BTW, my best selling agency is less nuts in the reviewing room too. I sell pictures there that didn't make the cut elsewhere. Makes me curious about what's in their iced tea but I get over it.
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You need 500dls and 50% acceptance to become exclusive, so that filters out newer contributors or smaller ports
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You need 500dls and 50% acceptance to become exclusive, so that filters out newer contributors or smaller ports
I think it is 250 downloads AND 50% acceptance rate OR 500 downloads regardless of acceptance rate. Either way it's not a very high bar to pass.
Yup, but it's far more difficult for most people to get to 250 than it was to get to 500 back in the day when downloads were more frequent. My dls are way, way down compared to, say, 2008, even if the rpd is much higher
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This is a very open-ended subject as we each have different parameters in what we do. We've all seen multiple images of the same subject over and over again bloating a contributors total uploads way beyond what others have online. For an important reason, I usually limit an upload from a shoot to one, sometimes two retouched images. Because #1, they're the best in my opinion and #2 because at a couple of agencies the value goes up for those images more for multiple sales of that one picture than if the concept were spread across 5 or 6 from the shoot. I just do better.
I sort of agree, because I just can't be bothered taking and editing all those extra shots when I know I got it in two. :) but I have also found that subs buyers will often buy 2 or 3 from the same series, so for me, I now aim for at least 3. If I were able to do more my port would be bigger, but not have the variety of topics I have now.