Author Topic: Careful - Fotolia user "Designsoliman" Copy our work (Read 26652 times)

corbotrade · « **Reply #25 on:** July 03, 2015, 11:07 »

it seems his accounts on the diff micros are deactivated.

microtalk · « **Reply #26 on:** July 03, 2015, 11:17 »

Quote from: corbotrade on July 03, 2015, 11:07

it seems his accounts on the diff micros are deactivated.

Ah yes, good news

Karen · « **Reply #27 on:** July 03, 2015, 15:03 »

Quote from: microtalk on July 02, 2015, 11:20

an other screenshot and apparently he really like copy
now we can play to the seven mistakes game

Designsoliman (Ahmed Soliman) is stil there:
http://www.123rf.com/profile_designsoliman

Jeffrey · « **Reply #28 on:** July 06, 2015, 00:55 »

Maybe the guy joined without reading rules and instructions.

designsoliman · « **Reply #29 on:** July 06, 2015, 02:21 »

Hi All,

I am here, My name is Ahmed Soliman. first of all i want to say sorry to you all and all authors that i have copied there work

but i want you to know that i didn't read terms and conditions carefully. I am not a thief

anyway all my accounts are now terminated and i lost all of my money. one small thing... you have destroyed my work that i am using since 2008 ... and this is how i eat me and my family.

Thank you
Soliman

De · « **Reply #30 on:** July 06, 2015, 03:08 »

Quote from: designsoliman on July 06, 2015, 02:21

Hi All,

I am here, My name is Ahmed Soliman. first of all i want to say sorry to you all and all authors that i have copied there work but i want you to know that i didn't read terms and conditions carefully. I am not a thief

anyway all my accounts are now terminated and i lost all of my money. one small thing... you have destroyed my work that i am using since 2008 ... and this is how i eat me and my family.

Thank you
Soliman

What exactly were your intentions by copying someone else's work?
How do you think it will affect their sales and what makes you think those people do not rely on this income to put food on the table?
How long do you think they have worked their butt off creating those portfolios, come up with new concepts, etc...?
This business is already as bad as it can get because of those greedy agencies, on top of that people lose sales every day because of competition but that is of no importance?
If you're smart and talented enough to create a portfolio like that you already know the answers to the above.
And now you expect forgiveness and pity?
You haven't stolen from me but we are all in this together and the only people I feel sorry for are those who's work have been copied.
Copy concepts and put your own twist to it, sure, we all do but copying to the pixel? a big NO

Me · « **Reply #31 on:** July 06, 2015, 03:11 »

Quote from: designsoliman on July 06, 2015, 02:21

Hi All,

I am here, My name is Ahmed Soliman. first of all i want to say sorry to you all and all authors that i have copied there work but i want you to know that i didn't read terms and conditions carefully. I am not a thief

anyway all my accounts are now terminated and i lost all of my money. one small thing... you have destroyed my work that i am using since 2008 ... and this is how i eat me and my family.

Thank you
Soliman

You are damned lucky to have got away with this for so long. Be grateful for how long your thievery has fed your family rather than moan that it won't any more.

kaboom · « **Reply #32 on:** July 06, 2015, 04:12 »

Quote from: designsoliman on July 06, 2015, 02:21

Hi All,

I am here, My name is Ahmed Soliman. first of all i want to say sorry to you all and all authors that i have copied there work but i want you to know that i didn't read terms and conditions carefully. I am not a thief

anyway all my accounts are now terminated and i lost all of my money. one small thing... you have destroyed my work that i am using since 2008 ... and this is how i eat me and my family.

Thank you
Soliman

The authors you copied also have their families!

What were you thinking? You must have spent hours and hours creating those objects and then you didnt spend a minute on changing at least colors or composition? Why did you make almost exact copies? It doesnt make sense. Nevermind, Im glad your accounts were closed.

noodle · « **Reply #33 on:** July 06, 2015, 06:07 »

You want sympathy because you took food out of other peoples mouths to fill your own?
Really?

Luka · « **Reply #34 on:** July 06, 2015, 06:32 »

Quote from: etienjones on July 02, 2015, 12:07

Another person with technical skills and no imagination . . . . .

I don't think it is about no having imagination, more about stealing the images or the vector by downloading them for free from Russians or Chinese websites (that are already stealing them from Istock, Shutterstock, etc) and just trying the luck with selling them on Fotolia. If it's working, until Fotolia close his account, he has been already taken one or more payments. My guess is that he or she has just a few knowledge of graphic, just enough to modify a little bit the layers.
After that, he can make another account with his mother, sisters, brothers, etc names and do it again, because it doesn't cost him too much effort.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #35 on:** July 06, 2015, 07:10 »

Quote from: Luka on July 06, 2015, 06:32

Quote from: etienjones on July 02, 2015, 12:07
Another person with technical skills and no imagination . . . . .

I don't think it is about no having imagination, more about stealing the images or the vector by downloading them for free from Russians or Chinese websites (that are already stealing them from Istock, Shutterstock, etc) and just trying the luck with selling them on Fotolia. If it's working, until Fotolia close his account, he has been already taken one or more payments. My guess is that he or she has just a few knowledge of graphic, just enough to modify a little bit the layers.
After that, he can make another account with his mother, sisters, brothers, etc names and do it again, because it doesn't cost him too much effort.

The guy who had his accounts closed was copying 3D concepts, setting up scenes as similar as possible and rendering his own "version", but not uploading the same work.

Ironically the guy who I would suspect is actually doing what you say is still on Fotolia. If I had the time/ inclination I would buy his files and the IStock ones and line up the points on the vector paths. In my opinion I think they would match up exactly.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #36 on:** July 06, 2015, 07:12 »

Quote from: designsoliman on July 06, 2015, 02:21

Hi All,

I am here, My name is Ahmed Soliman. first of all i want to say sorry to you all and all authors that i have copied there work but i want you to know that i didn't read terms and conditions carefully. I am not a thief

anyway all my accounts are now terminated and i lost all of my money. one small thing... you have destroyed my work that i am using since 2008 ... and this is how i eat me and my family.

Thank you
Soliman

If you are quick and really sorry maybe you could take down every file too closely inspired by other people's work on from the sites you are still on (like 123RF), then they may not shut down your account.

microtalk · « **Reply #37 on:** July 06, 2015, 09:21 »

Quote from: designsoliman on July 06, 2015, 02:21

Hi All,

I am here, My name is Ahmed Soliman. first of all i want to say sorry to you all and all authors that i have copied there work but i want you to know that i didn't read terms and conditions carefully. I am not a thief

anyway all my accounts are now terminated and i lost all of my money. one small thing... you have destroyed my work that i am using since 2008 ... and this is how i eat me and my family.

Thank you
Soliman

Hi,

First, artists you have copied need to eat too.
Secondly, you work is consider as forgery and can be punishable by law, so be lucky to have just your account delete and not a possible lawsuit.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #38 on:** July 06, 2015, 09:31 »

Quote from: designsoliman on July 06, 2015, 02:21

Hi All,

I am here, My name is Ahmed Soliman. first of all i want to say sorry to you all and all authors that i have copied there work but i want you to know that i didn't read terms and conditions carefully. I am not a thief

anyway all my accounts are now terminated and i lost all of my money. one small thing... you have destroyed my work that i am using since 2008 ... and this is how i eat me and my family.

Thank you
Soliman

Terms and conditions aside, why would you even think this would be allowed? You got what you deserved, end of story.

Semmick Photo · « **Reply #39 on:** July 06, 2015, 10:11 »

Solliman says his work if from 2008

the other files he supposedly copied were uploaded 2009 / 2010.

Or am I missing something now?

dirkr · « **Reply #40 on:** July 06, 2015, 10:44 »

Quote from: Semmick Photo on July 06, 2015, 10:11

Solliman says his work if from 2008

the other files he supposedly copied were uploaded 2009 / 2010.

Or am I missing something now?

Maybe the other sentence where he fully admits what he was doing (and claims pure ignorance as an accuse):

"first of all i want to say sorry to you all and all authors that i have copied there work

but i want you to know that i didn't read terms and conditions carefully"

If he started doing that in 2008 that does say nothing about what he did in 2009 / 2010 and later...

While I'm not personally affected (only photos for me) I have not much sympathy for such behavior.

noodle · « **Reply #41 on:** July 06, 2015, 11:34 »

He probably started in 2008, saw it was a good gig, and continued

Good thing he was caught otherwise he moght have graduated to robbing banks

michaeldb · « **Reply #42 on:** July 06, 2015, 18:55 »

Interesting but strange story. I do 3D CG using Max and other software. Making images which are so similar - almost exact copies - from scratch would not be easy. It would actually be easier to make versions which are more dissimilar. It's nothing like, say, tracing a drawing. This whole thing leaves me rather puzzled and saddened. It could have been avoided so easily.

DallasP · « **Reply #43 on:** July 06, 2015, 21:43 »

That seems like so much work in all reality ... Setting up the scene and recreating the objects nearly exactly like that ... I mean, I think for most logical people if they see a concept that they like or think will sell well, they try to illustrate it their own way.

I mean, I think most people still will drag reference files onto their desktop and get a feel for what they're trying to create but, to flat out sit and copy every detail like that seems very time consuming.

You get what you deserve bro. That's flat out theft.

microtalk · « **Reply #44 on:** July 09, 2015, 05:56 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on July 06, 2015, 07:12

Quote from: designsoliman on July 06, 2015, 02:21
Hi All,

I am here, My name is Ahmed Soliman. first of all i want to say sorry to you all and all authors that i have copied there work but i want you to know that i didn't read terms and conditions carefully. I am not a thief

anyway all my accounts are now terminated and i lost all of my money. one small thing... you have destroyed my work that i am using since 2008 ... and this is how i eat me and my family.

Thank you
Soliman

If you are quick and really sorry maybe you could take down every file too closely inspired by other people's work on from the sites you are still on (like 123RF), then they may not shut down your account.

Apparently, he doesn't seem really sorry ....
All copy images from the other microstock are still online

Mantis · « **Reply #45 on:** July 09, 2015, 08:06 »

At least he chose to come in to the forums and face the music. That takes some brass ones for sure.

DallasP · « **Reply #46 on:** July 09, 2015, 13:19 »

Quote from: Mantis on July 09, 2015, 08:06

At least he chose to come in to the forums and face the music. That takes some brass ones for sure.

Meh, the handy thing about the internet is it can't transfer fists ... yet ...

romet6 · « **Reply #47 on:** September 21, 2015, 22:24 »

Here is another user that seems to be copying designs...

Here are two examples that I noticed...

1. Original file (it was uploaded much earlier) :
newbielink:https://us.fotolia.com/id/54879637 [nonactive]

bf87's updated copy of the gray "FREE SHIPPING" truck and the orange, green and blue badges:
newbielink:https://us.fotolia.com/id/78855163 [nonactive]

2. Mike McDonald's original file:
newbielink:https://us.fotolia.com/id/49625393 [nonactive]

bf87's updated copy of the yellow "Special Discount" badge:
newbielink:https://us.fotolia.com/id/79524713 [nonactive]

I don't know whether bf87 just copied the older designs or perhaps he actually downloaded the vector source files and updated and re-uploaded them, but it cannot be a coincidence, because there are too many similarities in the design (the text, the fonts, the shapes and colors).

He has also uploaded the same files to several other popular stock image sites.

anathaya · « **Reply #48 on:** September 21, 2015, 23:08 »

Quote from: romet6 on September 21, 2015, 22:24

Here is another user that seems to be copying designs...

Here are two examples that I noticed...

1. Original file (it was uploaded much earlier) :
https://us.fotolia.com/id/54879637

bf87's updated copy of the gray "FREE SHIPPING" truck and the orange, green and blue badges:
https://us.fotolia.com/id/78855163

2. Mike McDonald's original file:
https://us.fotolia.com/id/49625393

bf87's updated copy of the yellow "Special Discount" badge:
https://us.fotolia.com/id/79524713

I don't know whether bf87 just copied the older designs or perhaps he actually downloaded the vector source files and updated and re-uploaded them, but it cannot be a coincidence, because there are too many similarities in the design (the text, the fonts, the shapes and colors).

He has also uploaded the same files to several other popular stock image sites.

Fotolia and all other agencies should ban these cheap people...

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #49 on:** September 22, 2015, 02:16 »

the truck one is not the same

ETA actually neither is the shield. He could be copying but doesn't look like he has stolen the work. Don't expect the agency to do anything about it, even if we think it is immoral it probably doesn't cross the line into breaking the agencies rules.

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Author Topic: Careful - Fotolia user "Designsoliman" Copy our work (Read 26652 times)

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