Author Topic: Cavan Images (Read 30331 times)

Cersei · « **on:** January 10, 2018, 08:19 »

Hello everyone,

I'm opening this thread as we got lost offtopic where we shouldn't. Didn't know where to put it...

Is anyone here selling with Cavan?

They have an interesting agreement and are series exclusive. They also do all the keywording, you only have to add up to 5 tags. Cavan distributes through other agencies too (Offset e.g.). They pay contributors a 50% royalty.

I applied there out of curiosity and got accepted in less than 24 hours. I think even my Shutterstock application took longer than that...

Would appreciate any advice!

Thanks

jonbull · « **Reply #1 on:** January 10, 2018, 09:51 »

sure browsing through cavan images is so refreshing after watching some lifestyle shooters portfolio in ss. unbelievable how many money some have done in ss with zero talent.
cavan images and stocksy you can see clearly that most are artist first of all than photographer.

Cersei · « **Reply #2 on:** January 10, 2018, 10:39 »

Totally agree. They have 48432 pictures in their port on Offset account. Not sure if those are all images from their Cavan site or just a part of it. It would be useful to know how big is their contributor community so we can get a better picture if it's worth a try. They seem shy about everything, tried to get more info on their facebook, instagram etc. but nothing much there. Just looks nice...

jonbull · « **Reply #3 on:** January 10, 2018, 10:46 »

Quote from: Cersei on January 10, 2018, 10:39

Totally agree. They have 48432 pictures in their port on Offset account. Not sure if those are all images from their Cavan site or just a part of it. It would be useful to know how big is their contributor community so we can get a better picture if it's worth a try. They seem shy about everything, tried to get more info on their facebook, instagram etc. but nothing much there. Just looks nice...

there is a list of contributor...i say 500/1000.

Cersei · « **Reply #4 on:** January 10, 2018, 10:51 »

Quote from: jonbull on January 10, 2018, 10:46

there is a list of contributor...i say 500/1000.

You're right, I missed that. Would say closer to 1000, so similar numbers like Stocksy

hatman12 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 10, 2018, 13:24 »

You need to be careful about Cavan. I believe this was originally just a Getty photographer who decided to allow other photographers to contribute to Getty through the Cavan brand. Gradually that activity has expanded. I believe Cavan has been able to negotiate good placement terms with Getty (and Fotolia Premium, Offset etc) because of good quality and past success, and Cavan are now capitalising on their position in the market by allowing lots of other photographers to use their brand. In other words it is a successful photographer who has now become an 'agency'. No harm in that of course. Note that although they say they pay 50%, I believe what they pay is 50% of whatever they are paid by the other agencies. So basically they are a portal through which others can gain access to Getty etc in exchange for giving Cavan 50% of the income. Again no harm in that of course, so long as people are aware.

rgphoto · « **Reply #6 on:** January 10, 2018, 13:59 »

Cavan is a macro stock agency that's why it's not mentioned much here. Clearly the quality of their images is way above the big 4. While they are a distributor on top of selling thru their site, the return is still higher than selling thru the big 4. We're in this game to make money so why not sell thru the highest paying agency? I joined them a while ago but haven't start submitting. I know they have in-house art directors to work with photographers on shoot concepts, which at times can be based on client's feedback. They have a closed Facebook group where contributors can converse.

I think series exclusive is an advantage, (of course you have to be good to get as many images accepted per series), the big money clients don't want to have a similar image being sold everywhere, they know if they go to certain agencies, they'll get that.

Cersei · « **Reply #7 on:** January 10, 2018, 15:56 »

I wouldn't call it just macro. They have Cavan Social collection with photos for $100.

Looks like I'll have to get in that facebook group and ask for more info there.

Thanks everyone for your time. It's easier to think clear when you have more than one brain

cobalt · « **Reply #8 on:** January 10, 2018, 16:53 »

I have heard from several people that they are very pleased with Cavan. But I have no intention to apply as I already am a member of macrostock agencies.

I think to have one or two agencies that specialize in the macrostock market is a good way to have balance.

Cersei · « **Reply #9 on:** January 14, 2018, 13:05 »

I started uploading.. We'll see how it goes

It's a pity none of their contributors are here. It would be nice to hear if it's working for them

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #10 on:** January 14, 2018, 13:27 »

Quote from: hatman12 on January 10, 2018, 13:24

You need to be careful about Cavan. I believe this was originally just a Getty photographer who decided to allow other photographers to contribute to Getty through the Cavan brand. Gradually that activity has expanded. I believe Cavan has been able to negotiate good placement terms with Getty (and Fotolia Premium, Offset etc) because of good quality and past success, and Cavan are now capitalising on their position in the market by allowing lots of other photographers to use their brand. In other words it is a successful photographer who has now become an 'agency'. No harm in that of course. Note that although they say they pay 50%, I believe what they pay is 50% of whatever they are paid by the other agencies. So basically they are a portal through which others can gain access to Getty etc in exchange for giving Cavan 50% of the income. Again no harm in that of course, so long as people are aware.

Thanks. Good to know. They contacted me. I asked for more contributor financial detail but never heard back. Maybe they forgot to respond. Or maybe they're hoping for people who blindly join and submit without asking questions about the contract and rates.

Running some basic numbers here's what I'd guess. So they pay 50% of their cut from Getty which going by standard RF rates is 20%. And when using standard RF prices the max is around $600 or as low as a subscription of pennies. So best case of $600 after 20% is $120. 50% of that is $60 or about 10% of the original selling price. If the sale is subscription then it's 10% of pennies. And it's series exclusive which is at least a bit more flexible than contributor exclusive. Again only guestimates though.

Cersei · « **Reply #11 on:** January 14, 2018, 13:38 »

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on January 14, 2018, 13:27

Thanks. Good to know. They contacted me. I asked for more contributor financial detail but never heard back. Maybe they forgot to respond. Or maybe they're hoping for people who blindly join and submit without asking questions about the contract and rates.

Running some basic numbers here's what I'd guess. So they pay 50% of their cut from Getty which going by standard RF rates is 20%. And when using standard RF prices the max is around $600 or as low as a subscription of pennies. So best case of $600 after 20% is $120. 50% of that is $60 or about 10% of the original selling price. If the sale is subscription then it's 10% of pennies. And it's series exclusive which is at least a bit more flexible than contributor exclusive. Again only guestimates though.

They are reselling images, yes. But I'm already selling for pennies on Shutterstock, so I think this won't do any more harm. Pennies, pennies everywhere...

cobalt · « **Reply #12 on:** January 14, 2018, 13:52 »

Maybe if enough people keep reporting back, we will all learn more about them.

If they accept a lot of people who were declined elsewhere, then this is a good thing. And it is probably only possible to join for a short time.

Do they also take video?

Cersei · « **Reply #13 on:** January 14, 2018, 14:04 »

They do accept video. They have 3 categories: Cavan Images, Cavan Social and Cavan Motion. The last one, Motion are videos. Images and Social are just differently priced photos

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #14 on:** January 14, 2018, 14:23 »

Quote from: Cersei on January 14, 2018, 13:38

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on January 14, 2018, 13:27

Thanks. Good to know. They contacted me. I asked for more contributor financial detail but never heard back. Maybe they forgot to respond. Or maybe they're hoping for people who blindly join and submit without asking questions about the contract and rates.

Running some basic numbers here's what I'd guess. So they pay 50% of their cut from Getty which going by standard RF rates is 20%. And when using standard RF prices the max is around $600 or as low as a subscription of pennies. So best case of $600 after 20% is $120. 50% of that is $60 or about 10% of the original selling price. If the sale is subscription then it's 10% of pennies. And it's series exclusive which is at least a bit more flexible than contributor exclusive. Again only guestimates though.

They are reselling images, yes. But I'm already selling for pennies on Shutterstock, so I think this won't do any more harm. Pennies, pennies everywhere...

But you're making pennies on high volume with SS. Cavan is higher price point which is usually lower volume. Lower price point and lower volume don't mix. But yes it's good to see there still a higher price point macro site with a reasonable 50/50 split surviving and actively recruiting contributors.

cobalt · « **Reply #15 on:** January 14, 2018, 14:47 »

If they take video, I‘ll have a look.

JaenStock · « **Reply #16 on:** January 14, 2018, 14:47 »

HI! Cavan don't work with Getty!!

You can earn good money with cavan by Offset and Infinite.

For me the worst of sites like Cavan or w61 is that you can't erase the images that don't work.

Visual · « **Reply #17 on:** January 14, 2018, 16:47 »

So The Question is why someone contribute to Canvan, who sell on Offstock, and not contribute Offset and sell directly?
Maybe on short term could be useful to have a big name/seller (canvan) to sell your stuff, but
At longterm i think it is mouch better to sell directly.
Am i wrong?

MilanStojanovic · « **Reply #18 on:** January 14, 2018, 17:18 »

Quote from: JaenStock on January 14, 2018, 14:47

For me the worst of sites like Cavan o w61 is you can't erase a don't work in macro session.

What is worst? I'm not sure I get what you are saying

rgphoto · « **Reply #19 on:** January 14, 2018, 17:32 »

A friend of mine is with both Cavan and Offset, and told me the difference is if you shoot a session, say you have 100 images you wanted to submit, with Cavan, you don't have to retouch out the logos until they make their selection. With Offset, you'll have to retouch all 100 images and they will select a percentage. That's a lot of post production time not knowing how many images will be accepted.

Secondly, he gets 30% from Offset. Where as Cavan is 50% direct sale, and thru distributing partners i think it's around 20% of the retail price.

Cersei · « **Reply #20 on:** January 14, 2018, 17:47 »

Quote from: Visual on January 14, 2018, 16:47

So The Question is why someone contribute to Canvan, who sell on Offstock, and not contribute Offset and sell directly?
Maybe on short term could be useful to have a big name/seller (canvan) to sell your stuff, but
At longterm i think it is mouch better to sell directly.
Am i wrong?

True, I thought about Offset. But even if I manage to get accepted (haven't applied yet), Cavan isn't selling only through Offset. Here is a quote from their web page: ''We're proud to be featured in the premium collections at Adobe, Offset, Dissolve, Plainpicture, Amana, Gaopin, Imagine China, Imagefolk, and Alamy''

michellesphotostyle · « **Reply #21 on:** January 14, 2018, 22:28 »

Hi Cersei, like you I got my rejection from Stocksy last week after 3+ months of waiting and applied to Cavan and got accepted within 24 hours but I have not yet uploaded any images. I also applied to Offset and I am waiting on a response. I was hoping to get a golden ticket from Stocksy but

. I have images with one Australian stock company so I am now trying to branch out.

JaenStock · « **Reply #22 on:** January 15, 2018, 03:44 »

Quote from: MilanStojanovic on January 14, 2018, 17:18

Quote from: JaenStock on January 14, 2018, 14:47
For me the worst of sites like Cavan o w61 is you can't erase a don't work in macro session.

What is worst? I'm not sure I get what you are saying

Sorry my telephone english!!... the worst is you cant erase photos that dont work. In w61 you have a penalty for deleted photo. Is like Getty, you have to delet the whole portfolio in contractual end

Cersei · « **Reply #23 on:** January 15, 2018, 09:11 »

Quote from: michellesphotostyle on January 14, 2018, 22:28

Hi Cersei, like you I got my rejection from Stocksy last week after 3+ months of waiting and applied to Cavan and got accepted within 24 hours but I have not yet uploaded any images. I also applied to Offset and I am waiting on a response. I was hoping to get a golden ticket from Stocksy but . I have images with one Australian stock company so I am now trying to branch out.

Hello Michelle, I'm so sorry about your Stocksy rejection, but I hope that somehow they did it for the right reasons both with you and me. I believe they know their customers really good and it doesn't mean that work won't sell well on some other sites.

Also, it's a good idea to have more options. Cavan and Offset may be similar but some of your images could be rejected by one and not by the other. If it's not a series, you can always try with another agency. I think I might apply to Offset too.

I spent some time searching through Cavan collection and many contributors have really small ports (up to 20 photos). Don't know if these are new contributors or the rejection rate is high

My acceptance rate with Cavan is about 40/60. It is very small sample for now but still means they do care about quality. Their keywording system (up to 5 tags, they add more) and in-house editing + fast response... Pretty good first impression!

michellesphotostyle · « **Reply #24 on:** January 16, 2018, 22:21 »

Hi Cersei, thank you. Yes Stocksy's collection is excellent because they know what works for them. As their CTA FAQ says if you receive a rejection and want to resubmit: "....submit a new body of work that will stand out vs blend into what currently exists with Stocksy." I've seen the portfolios of some of the new contributors who are adding something new to the stocksy collection. Please keep us posted on how things go for you with your offset submission and your Cavan sales. Good to hear that first impressions are good. I loved Stocksy's Image Manager though. So good to use.

PedroToledo · « **Reply #25 on:** March 07, 2018, 06:07 »

-Solved

Chandra · « **Reply #26 on:** March 21, 2018, 15:21 »

What have you solved?

PedroToledo · « **Reply #27 on:** March 21, 2018, 18:20 »

Quote from: olafvik on March 07, 2018, 06:07

-Solved

A problem uploading

jonbull · « **Reply #28 on:** March 29, 2018, 14:09 »

happy to been accepted. i like this agency a lot from the work i see.
i have one question
they only accept series or even single file ?

JaenStock · « **Reply #29 on:** March 30, 2018, 02:26 »

Cavan want series exclusivity. If you send 100 of same shot and rejects 80, you cant upload the 80 rejected to other site. ( but they work with low res submissions) you can send a single image but be sure dont send too similar image to other site, especially if other site is cheaper

jonbull · « **Reply #30 on:** March 30, 2018, 11:49 »

Quote from: JaenStock on March 30, 2018, 02:26

Cavan want series exclusivity. If you send 100 of same shot and rejects 80, you cant upload the 80 rejected to other site. ( but they work with low res submissions) you can send a single image but be sure dont send too similar image to other site, especially if other site is cheaper

i was thinking mostly of travel and editorial photography..sure if i shoot a lifestyle or food series i will send it to them only.

jonbull · « **Reply #31 on:** April 06, 2018, 09:48 »

first batch accepted 10 of 44...i expected see more but i like their cut o the best of best...actually watching the submission again, i can agree with their decision. most important i talk with them and they consider the not accepted similar and i can submit to other image bank.

i have a chance to subit to offset, is it worth?
clearly i will submit a different kind of image compared to cavan

angelawaye · « **Reply #32 on:** April 06, 2018, 09:51 »

If you submit a series of 20 images and they only accept one, can you decline having it added to their database? Or is it set in stone as soon as you submit the series?

jonbull · « **Reply #33 on:** April 06, 2018, 10:43 »

Quote from: angelawaye on April 06, 2018, 09:51

If you submit a series of 20 images and they only accept one, can you decline having it added to their database? Or is it set in stone as soon as you submit the series?

i don't know exactly, i suspect you can. actually before thy told me i could send the rest to other agency, i thought not to send the images. but i like their work, is refreshing collaborating with an agency like this.
by the way the ret of submission i won't send to micro but probably rm in alamy.

angelawaye · « **Reply #34 on:** April 06, 2018, 14:21 »

Thanks for the reply. I don't blame you for not submitting the images to micro.

yanjf · « **Reply #35 on:** April 16, 2018, 06:28 »

Just been accepted

kuriouskat · « **Reply #36 on:** April 16, 2018, 06:58 »

If it doesn't work out and you want to leave, how long are your images tied in for? I have a friend at another macro site, and his images are tied in for 2 years if he chooses to leave, and he also can't upload similars elsewhere in that period. Is it the same at Cavan?

jonbull · « **Reply #37 on:** April 19, 2018, 09:58 »

very low acceptance ratio, maybe they are ok with this policy, but all the process is a bit complex...and with this ratio to build u a good portfolio will take ages.

m00n · « **Reply #38 on:** April 20, 2018, 04:29 »

Some time ago I read (can't remember where) that a standard average acceptance rate with the smaller boutique agencies/ distributors is around 25%-30%.

Can someone more experienced confirm or not this?

jonbull · « **Reply #39 on:** April 20, 2018, 06:59 »

Quote from: m00n on April 20, 2018, 04:29

Some time ago I read (can't remember where) that a standard average acceptance rate with the smaller boutique agencies/ distributors is around 25%-30%.

Can someone more experienced confirm or not this?

i had lower despite the photo i sent were top notch believe me...seems they accept the same number of images if i send them 40 or 270 like last batch..
so i will send small batch in the future, and they have clearly a consistent palette of color, more like stocksy, and love the neutral tonality. also i sent some editorial but all were refused despite they accept them. is not bad cause they are single so i will send the rest in rm to other agency, but for lifestyle shooting where i paid model i will not accept to send 10 photos of 70 for example.

Chicago913 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 18, 2018, 16:28 »

Quote from: KuriousKat on April 16, 2018, 06:58

If it doesn't work out and you want to leave, how long are your images tied in for? I have a friend at another macro site, and his images are tied in for 2 years if he chooses to leave, and he also can't upload similars elsewhere in that period. Is it the same at Cavan?

I started submitting to Cavan (only about 20 images) but stopped because they have a 2 year exclusive hold on your images before they'll remove them from the site. I knew about the 2 year hold beforehand and thought I'd be ok with it but ultimately decided it's a deal breaker for me. Yes they also restrict out take images from the same shoot to be submitted elsewhere.

kuriouskat · « **Reply #41 on:** May 19, 2018, 02:48 »

Quote from: Chicago913 on May 18, 2018, 16:28

Quote from: KuriousKat on April 16, 2018, 06:58
If it doesn't work out and you want to leave, how long are your images tied in for? I have a friend at another macro site, and his images are tied in for 2 years if he chooses to leave, and he also can't upload similars elsewhere in that period. Is it the same at Cavan?

I started submitting to Cavan (only about 20 images) but stopped because they have a 2 year exclusive hold on your images before they'll remove them from the site. I knew about the 2 year hold beforehand and thought I'd be ok with it but ultimately decided it's a deal breaker for me. Yes they also restrict out take images from the same shoot to be submitted elsewhere.

Thanks for clarifying - I struggled to find much to read about terms and conditions, without signing up as a contributor. This is certainly a big consideration, as two years is a long time to be tied in anywhere.

Cersei · « **Reply #42 on:** May 25, 2018, 07:02 »

They do have a pretty low acceptance rate/high demands but I believe that's not a bad thing. A good portfolio does need ages to build.

And with series of photos I feel they could accept only some, I do not to upload them on Cavan at all. They go straight to a micro site.

FrostyOfTheNorth · « **Reply #43 on:** January 07, 2019, 17:10 »

Well, based on some of the information in this thread, Canvan sounded good so I decided to apply. (First time applying to a stock agency.)

Three minutes after I applied I received an email saying "Congratulations! In just a few steps you will be part of our incredible creative community at Cavan. Confirm your email, create a password, sign the artist agreement and you are in!"

Do you have to sign the agreement that they send before they review your portfolio? Is that common with stock agencies? For a second I got hopeful that they liked my work. But they common sense kicked in and I realized that there's no way they reviewed my portfolio in three minutes.

gillian vann · « **Reply #44 on:** January 07, 2019, 18:35 »

Quote from: KuriousKat on May 19, 2018, 02:48

I started submitting to Cavan (only about 20 images) but stopped because they have a 2 year exclusive hold on your images before they'll remove them from the site. I knew about the 2 year hold beforehand and thought I'd be ok with it but ultimately decided it's a deal breaker for me. Yes they also restrict out take images from the same shoot to be submitted elsewhere.

I also signed up to Cavan late last year, thinking it would be a good place to park my Stocksy rejects, and I asked about whether I could delete files and still haven't heard back. it probably was in the agreement, which I only skimmed through. For now I only have 1 small food series on there. I really dislike their image upload process and I haven't been back to add more. I had hoped it would be a good workaround for the Getty "no deletions" rule, but apparently not. The risk of uploading a series, having 90% declined, and a 2 year lock down, is a real problem.

FrostyOfTheNorth · « **Reply #45 on:** January 16, 2019, 15:06 »

Quote from: gillian vann on January 07, 2019, 18:35

Quote from: KuriousKat on May 19, 2018, 02:48

I started submitting to Cavan (only about 20 images) but stopped because they have a 2 year exclusive hold on your images before they'll remove them from the site. I knew about the 2 year hold beforehand and thought I'd be ok with it but ultimately decided it's a deal breaker for me. Yes they also restrict out take images from the same shoot to be submitted elsewhere.

I also signed up to Cavan late last year, thinking it would be a good place to park my Stocksy rejects, and I asked about whether I could delete files and still haven't heard back. it probably was in the agreement, which I only skimmed through. For now I only have 1 small food series on there. I really dislike their image upload process and I haven't been back to add more. I had hoped it would be a good workaround for the Getty "no deletions" rule, but apparently not. The risk of uploading a series, having 90% declined, and a 2 year lock down, is a real problem.

I did get accepted to Cavan and they accepted 10 out of 10 of my initial submissions, but some of the comments here have me hesitant to submit more.

Is Stocksy your preferred agency? Can you tell me your reasons why? I'm new to the stock world so whatever insight you can share would be appreciated.

Thanks.

gillian vann · « **Reply #46 on:** January 25, 2019, 07:26 »

Quote from: FrostyOfTheNorth on January 16, 2019, 15:06

Quote from: gillian vann on January 07, 2019, 18:35
Quote from: KuriousKat on May 19, 2018, 02:48

I started submitting to Cavan (only about 20 images) but stopped because they have a 2 year exclusive hold on your images before they'll remove them from the site. I knew about the 2 year hold beforehand and thought I'd be ok with it but ultimately decided it's a deal breaker for me. Yes they also restrict out take images from the same shoot to be submitted elsewhere.

I also signed up to Cavan late last year, thinking it would be a good place to park my Stocksy rejects, and I asked about whether I could delete files and still haven't heard back. it probably was in the agreement, which I only skimmed through. For now I only have 1 small food series on there. I really dislike their image upload process and I haven't been back to add more. I had hoped it would be a good workaround for the Getty "no deletions" rule, but apparently not. The risk of uploading a series, having 90% declined, and a 2 year lock down, is a real problem.

I did get accepted to Cavan and they accepted 10 out of 10 of my initial submissions, but some of the comments here have me hesitant to submit more.

Is Stocksy your preferred agency? Can you tell me your reasons why? I'm new to the stock world so whatever insight you can share would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Stocksy pays the best, for me outsells all the others. they also give me the most frustration as the standards are high. a decline from them hurts deeply, cos you know that's where you want your work, amongst all that other excellent work. if SS or Getty decline my stuff i don't care 1 bit, I'm also with Adobe Prem and they have a higher decline rate than Stocksy and I just laugh when they decline stuff. Stocky has wonderful imagery, you don't have to wade through pages of shite to find something, and although they have their more arty side, it's tempered with a lot of beautiful everyday imagery too. You can reach out to any editor and have a discussion about your work, i recently had a 2hour hang out with an editor and it was so amazing to be able to do that. You can query a decline, have a discussion and sometimes it will be overturned, or not, but the chance to talk with someone is always there. They will send files back to have something edited/fixed, rather than a straight decline. Sales are real time. The Image Manager is the best in the industry. There's no sneaky back door deals where you end up with $1 and left wondering what the agency got.

what did I miss?

Deyan Georgiev Photography · « **Reply #47 on:** January 25, 2019, 08:44 »

Quote from: gillian vann on January 25, 2019, 07:26

Quote from: FrostyOfTheNorth on January 16, 2019, 15:06
Quote from: gillian vann on January 07, 2019, 18:35
Quote from: KuriousKat on May 19, 2018, 02:48

I started submitting to Cavan (only about 20 images) but stopped because they have a 2 year exclusive hold on your images before they'll remove them from the site. I knew about the 2 year hold beforehand and thought I'd be ok with it but ultimately decided it's a deal breaker for me. Yes they also restrict out take images from the same shoot to be submitted elsewhere.

I also signed up to Cavan late last year, thinking it would be a good place to park my Stocksy rejects, and I asked about whether I could delete files and still haven't heard back. it probably was in the agreement, which I only skimmed through. For now I only have 1 small food series on there. I really dislike their image upload process and I haven't been back to add more. I had hoped it would be a good workaround for the Getty "no deletions" rule, but apparently not. The risk of uploading a series, having 90% declined, and a 2 year lock down, is a real problem.

I did get accepted to Cavan and they accepted 10 out of 10 of my initial submissions, but some of the comments here have me hesitant to submit more.

Is Stocksy your preferred agency? Can you tell me your reasons why? I'm new to the stock world so whatever insight you can share would be appreciated.

Thanks.

what did I miss?

Well, the secret spice which push all images to look so "stocksy"-ish

kuriouskat · « **Reply #48 on:** January 28, 2019, 18:48 »

Quote from: gillian vann on January 25, 2019, 07:26

Quote from: FrostyOfTheNorth on January 16, 2019, 15:06
Quote from: gillian vann on January 07, 2019, 18:35
Quote from: KuriousKat on May 19, 2018, 02:48

I started submitting to Cavan (only about 20 images) but stopped because they have a 2 year exclusive hold on your images before they'll remove them from the site. I knew about the 2 year hold beforehand and thought I'd be ok with it but ultimately decided it's a deal breaker for me. Yes they also restrict out take images from the same shoot to be submitted elsewhere.

I also signed up to Cavan late last year, thinking it would be a good place to park my Stocksy rejects, and I asked about whether I could delete files and still haven't heard back. it probably was in the agreement, which I only skimmed through. For now I only have 1 small food series on there. I really dislike their image upload process and I haven't been back to add more. I had hoped it would be a good workaround for the Getty "no deletions" rule, but apparently not. The risk of uploading a series, having 90% declined, and a 2 year lock down, is a real problem.

I did get accepted to Cavan and they accepted 10 out of 10 of my initial submissions, but some of the comments here have me hesitant to submit more.

Is Stocksy your preferred agency? Can you tell me your reasons why? I'm new to the stock world so whatever insight you can share would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Stocksy pays the best, for me outsells all the others. they also give me the most frustration as the standards are high. a decline from them hurts deeply, cos you know that's where you want your work, amongst all that other excellent work. if SS or Getty decline my stuff i don't care 1 bit, I'm also with Adobe Prem and they have a higher decline rate than Stocksy and I just laugh when they decline stuff. Stocky has wonderful imagery, you don't have to wade through pages of shite to find something, and although they have their more arty side, it's tempered with a lot of beautiful everyday imagery too. You can reach out to any editor and have a discussion about your work, i recently had a 2hour hang out with an editor and it was so amazing to be able to do that. You can query a decline, have a discussion and sometimes it will be overturned, or not, but the chance to talk with someone is always there. They will send files back to have something edited/fixed, rather than a straight decline. Sales are real time. The Image Manager is the best in the industry. There's no sneaky back door deals where you end up with $1 and left wondering what the agency got.

what did I miss?

Glad it's working for you, Gillian,

One note though, when I click on any Stocksy portfolio link from here, it either takes forever to load or simply hangs and doesn't load at all. Totally off-putting in the 21st century.

gillian vann · « **Reply #49 on:** June 27, 2019, 22:13 »

Quote from: KuriousKat on January 28, 2019, 18:48

Glad it's working for you, Gillian,

One note though, when I click on any Stocksy portfolio link from here, it either takes forever to load or simply hangs and doesn't load at all. Totally off-putting in the 21st century.

no idea, works fine for me. they are constantly tinkering and optimizing their display, they are more 21st century than anywhere else. Agencies like Shutterstock/Offset openly copy them. I was a bit worried they'd fallen into a data driven geek nirvana for a while, and there was so much focus on optimizing the site, but it seems to have settled down now.

vectorsforall · « **Reply #50 on:** February 18, 2021, 11:58 »

Hi,
I just applied with Cavan and realized after uploading 10 videos that they are content exclusive.
They have just accepted my content, so I asked them to delete my account via the 'contact us' page.
Hope I've not made a big mistake $:-\$

Dear friends, any comments about such experience are welcome please...

Best

Firn · « **Reply #51 on:** February 18, 2021, 13:35 »

Quote from: vectorsforall on February 18, 2021, 11:58

Hi,
I just applied with Cavan and realized after uploading 10 videos that they are content exclusive.
They have just accepted my content, so I asked them to delete my account via the 'contact us' page.
Hope I've not made a big mistake $:-\$

Dear friends, any comments about such experience are welcome please...

Best

Did I miss something? Nowhere in the contributor agreement does it say that submitted content needs to be exclusive to Canva.

panicAttack · « **Reply #52 on:** February 18, 2021, 13:40 »

Quote from: Firn on February 18, 2021, 13:35

Quote from: vectorsforall on February 18, 2021, 11:58
Hi,
I just applied with Cavan and realized after uploading 10 videos that they are content exclusive.
They have just accepted my content, so I asked them to delete my account via the 'contact us' page.
Hope I've not made a big mistake $:-\$

Dear friends, any comments about such experience are welcome please...

Best

Did I miss something? Nowhere in the contributor agreement does it say that submitted content needs to be exclusive to Canva.

cavanimages, not canva

vectorsforall · « **Reply #53 on:** February 18, 2021, 13:48 »

Yep Cavan not Canva

Firn · « **Reply #54 on:** February 18, 2021, 15:53 »

Quote from: panicAttack on February 18, 2021, 13:40

Quote from: Firn on February 18, 2021, 13:35
Quote from: vectorsforall on February 18, 2021, 11:58
Hi,
I just applied with Cavan and realized after uploading 10 videos that they are content exclusive.
They have just accepted my content, so I asked them to delete my account via the 'contact us' page.
Hope I've not made a big mistake $:-\$

Dear friends, any comments about such experience are welcome please...

Best

Did I miss something? Nowhere in the contributor agreement does it say that submitted content needs to be exclusive to Canva.

cavanimages, not canva

Ahhhhh, that explains everything!

Now I feel stupid.
Never heard of Cavan before.

ShadySue · « **Reply #55 on:** February 18, 2021, 16:06 »

Quote from: gillian vann on June 27, 2019, 22:13

Quote from: KuriousKat on January 28, 2019, 18:48

Glad it's working for you, Gillian,

One note though, when I click on any Stocksy portfolio link from here, it either takes forever to load or simply hangs and doesn't load at all. Totally off-putting in the 21st century.

no idea, works fine for me. they are constantly tinkering and optimizing their display, they are more 21st century than anywhere else. Agencies like Shutterstock/Offset openly copy them. I was a bit worried they'd fallen into a data driven geek nirvana for a while, and there was so much focus on optimizing the site, but it seems to have settled down now.

Still got some poor searches, though - are keywords still not being reviewed on acceptance?
(try African wild dog: 5 AWDs, two hyaenas, a landscape and a lot of photos of an African-ethnicity woman wearing a dog-head-mask-thing. "African wild dog" has one image.

Blue whale has the usual random assortment of whales; Balaenoptera musculus has an excellent pic of a Sperm Whale (spammed - by a great photographer but serial spammer) and several of an artist drawing various whales, one of which is presumably intended to be a Blue.

For the prices charged, buyers surely expect a better search experience - and it kinda negates the 'curated' claim.
If I need an image of a Blue Whale, what's better, an OK Blue Whale photo or an excellent Sperm Whale one?

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