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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2020, 10:29 »
+9
1. Select video thumbnails.
2. Upload editorial.

« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2020, 10:47 »
+10
1. Select video thumbnails.
2. Upload editorial.

Both are on my list and I think you'll get both of them. 

Of the two, I think editorial is much more impactful to contributors and customers.

Thanks for the feedback.

Dennis

« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2020, 11:06 »
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Plus One on ODesigns post and Dennis's feedback. I can't see much good news around at the moment in microstock video and AdobeStock is the only one showing any signs of growth for me. As only a small part of my portfolio is usable as commercial, that growth is limited at the moment. I would love to contribute soft editorial video to Adobe sometime soon.

« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2020, 12:55 »
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1. Select video thumbnails.
2. Upload editorial.

Both are on my list and I think you'll get both of them. 

Of the two, I think editorial is much more impactful to contributors and customers.

Thanks for the feedback.

Dennis

These two would be great. The thumbnail one has been a while coming but Editorial Footage with unreleased people etc would be excellent 👍🏻

« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2020, 13:04 »
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Editorial still images and footage would be awesome.

1. Select video thumbnails.
2. Upload editorial.

Both are on my list and I think you'll get both of them. 

Of the two, I think editorial is much more impactful to contributors and customers.

Thanks for the feedback.

Dennis

« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2020, 13:12 »
+1
Editorial still images and footage would be awesome.

1. Select video thumbnails.
2. Upload editorial.

Both are on my list and I think you'll get both of them. 

Of the two, I think editorial is much more impactful to contributors and customers.

Thanks for the feedback.

Dennis

Yes, proper editorial images would be high up there... wasn't sure if he wanted to hear about that or just footage. The existing illustrative editorial is ok but not quite the same as normal news/editorial content that will often include unreleased people.

« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2020, 17:41 »
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One or more webminar  (like the ones you've already did) about the right and useful keywords to use for video would be really helpful!
Learning more about what exactly buyers use, words and sentence, to reach what they are looking for, this would be a great help.
Thanks

« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2020, 17:57 »
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One or more webminar  (like the ones you've already did) about the right and useful keywords to use for video would be really helpful!
Learning more about what exactly buyers use, words and sentence, to reach what they are looking for, this would be a great help.
Thanks

+1

Q&A with the team that manages the AS search engine would be useful too :)

My thoughts in no particular order:
1. Ability to pick a thumbnail at the time of upload / later
2. Seeing how many times items from a particular collection sold (and for how much)- something like SS already does: "Collection XYZ; 300 files, 15 sales, 297,74$ total"
3. Better way for batch editing keywords / titles on clips that are already online (ability to update them via CSV) and title/keyword database reindexing every X months / once a year (now from what I know even if we edit keywords, change their placement it does absolutely nothing- correct me if I'm wrong)
4. 2/3 warnings before an account gets blocked for uploading "simillar files"- it seemed like a big problem few months earlier here on the forums.
5. Analytics!!!1 (what searches, words made the sale, item views etc.)
« Last Edit: January 15, 2020, 18:07 by Ozone »

wds

« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2020, 19:10 »
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1. Select video thumbnails.
2. Upload editorial.




Both are on my list and I think you'll get both of them. 

Of the two, I think editorial is much more impactful to contributors and customers.

Thanks for the feedback.

Dennis

That's great to hear regarding editorial, but will it be restricted to "no people" like the stills (hopefully that will open up to include people as well)?
« Last Edit: January 15, 2020, 22:23 by wds »

« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2020, 19:45 »
+3
1: select video thumbnails
2: editorial

« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2020, 00:50 »
+1
1. open up the template market, right now the mogrt templates look very outdated and unprofessional.
2. more traffic. whatever it is you're doing, it's not enough.
3. thumbnails, yes, maybe if every person insists on it, you will finally get to it (should've been the first thing)
4. subscription option. (personally hate it, but its impossible now when shutterstock, pond5, envato & istockphoto are selling it for nothing)

« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2020, 04:21 »
+3

4. subscription option. (personally hate it, but its impossible now when shutterstock, pond5, envato & istockphoto are selling it for nothing)
We don't need any subscriptions!!! Adobe like ss is doing pretty well without it..

georgep7

« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2020, 12:23 »
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Hi Dennis! Best wishes for a good year with health and profits :)

Here is an odd one: While you was not around MSG had some problems loading or with bandwidth or whatever the problem was.
I mean that it would be great for Adobe to make some better St forum.
I don't contribute to AS but I like to read many agencies forums.
Adobestock one is quite just a "list" with mixed customer problems and contributors questions.
Yes many of them are answered by "experts" or "stuff" but in order to be informed on "something" you have to search for "it".

:)

« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2020, 12:39 »
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My SS account sells daily 2-5 videos. My pond5 sells daily 1 video at least.
My Adobe stock account sells 2-4 videos a month.
Is this a lack of advertising? I am not a pro in the other side of how this business works, but I would say that the best investment in your contributors is to attract the clients.

« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2020, 14:27 »
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My SS account sells daily 2-5 videos. My pond5 sells daily 1 video at least.
My Adobe stock account sells 2-4 videos a month.
Is this a lack of advertising? I am not a pro in the other side of how this business works, but I would say that the best investment in your contributors is to attract the clients.

I'm in the same boat as Rasika.  SS is selling circles around AS.  Why?

« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2020, 14:30 »
0
Editorial still images and footage would be awesome.

1. Select video thumbnails.
2. Upload editorial.

Both are on my list and I think you'll get both of them. 

Of the two, I think editorial is much more impactful to contributors and customers.

Thanks for the feedback.

Dennis

We support Illustrative editorial images today (logos, brands, etc.)


« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2020, 14:31 »
0
One or more webminar  (like the ones you've already did) about the right and useful keywords to use for video would be really helpful!
Learning more about what exactly buyers use, words and sentence, to reach what they are looking for, this would be a great help.
Thanks

Great feedback, I will definitely pass that on.  We do have a webinar scheduled for February, but I don't know the topic off hand.

Dennis

« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2020, 14:46 »
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1. open up the template market, right now the mogrt templates look very outdated and unprofessional.
2. more traffic. whatever it is you're doing, it's not enough.
3. thumbnails, yes, maybe if every person insists on it, you will finally get to it (should've been the first thing)
4. subscription option. (personally hate it, but its impossible now when shutterstock, pond5, envato & istockphoto are selling it for nothing)

1 - Wholly disagree!  Our templates look awesome and honestly if I didn't believe that, I'd cop to it.  Mogrts as a whole are doing awesome and answer a distinct need in the market.  That said, we do need one key feature and I've pushed for it and hope we get it this year.  We'll see.
2 - Traffic is good, but agree.  If you can have more, we want it as much as you.
3 - Agreed
4 - Whole different conversation! 

 :D

« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2020, 15:20 »
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4. subscription option. (personally hate it, but its impossible now when shutterstock, pond5, envato & istockphoto are selling it for nothing)
We don't need any subscriptions!!! Adobe like ss is doing pretty well without it..

like I said, a wholly different topic - one that will have fiery responses! 

« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2020, 15:32 »
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My SS account sells daily 2-5 videos. My pond5 sells daily 1 video at least.
My Adobe stock account sells 2-4 videos a month.
Is this a lack of advertising? I am not a pro in the other side of how this business works, but I would say that the best investment in your contributors is to attract the clients.

You can message me your account Id and I can take a look into it.  Why some people do better or worse on one site or another over a month or a year is always going to be a mystery.  Generally, I think that most contributors are seeing growth from Adobe, though certainly not all.

Send me your number or email via DM and I'll try to take a look for you.

Dennis

« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2020, 17:45 »
+2
I love Adobe and want it to grow, I would like a better lightbox setup where we can make selections better have have more of them. I agree with all what is stated above. I would love to see more creative advertising as well, do something different. I am thrilled that you do advertise and that would be my main push is to get more buyers.

« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2020, 01:23 »
+1
Yes, definitely there are strange patterns with some changes made on Adobe side - days of sales or many sales on same day followed with longer periods without any... please don`t change and experiment with logarithms frequently, because we feel it every time(and not in good way...)... I`m with people who need that thumbnail change option for video and video preview with mouse over option will be fine, like there was on Fotolia... when editing keywords or re-ordering them after approval, it will be fine to have that preview when doing lot of changes to old files...

« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2020, 01:57 »
+2
Sorry, maybe not quite in the topic, but I have one request: Could you please make a mobile app where we can track our earnings on the go and which keeps us up to date on our latest downloads. Greatly appreciate knowing you guys are here to help us.  :)

« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2020, 08:00 »
+2
Sorry, maybe not quite in the topic, but I have one request: Could you please make a mobile app where we can track our earnings on the go and which keeps us up to date on our latest downloads. Greatly appreciate knowing you guys are here to help us.  :)

Actually, I am a HUGE proponent of making a mobile app both for contributing and for monitoring sales, releases, everything.  We have all of the technology necessary, but as with anything, it's a question of which priorities come first. 

Trust me on this when I say that I really want this request to come true and I believe it will in time.

Thanks,
Dennis

« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2020, 18:40 »
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Hola, saludos.


Me, I must have the option to delete an image submitted for examination. Before the examiner evaluates the file, I must be able to delete it. If this option exists, make it easier for you to see.

As for the options of the words, congratulations to the developers, however, it has the possibility of some improvement, according to my feeling. I will develop it in a public article soon some details with examples and I will send you the link.

Meanwhile, I settle for an answer.
Is it possible to post and place the images on the portfolio by their date of approval, not by their date of loading, as well as their age in the approval, not the load?




Tenebroso
Thank you

Success and profitability also this year for you.

« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2020, 16:33 »
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Thanks for the feedback. That's not the kind of editorial I meant although it is great that you have opened up to upload those. I was focusing on the "travel" editorial images and footage (real life) Hope that this will also come along at some point.

Editorial still images and footage would be awesome.

1. Select video thumbnails.
2. Upload editorial.

Both are on my list and I think you'll get both of them. 

Of the two, I think editorial is much more impactful to contributors and customers.

Thanks for the feedback.

Dennis

We support Illustrative editorial images today (logos, brands, etc.)


« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2020, 01:50 »
+1
My SS account sells daily 2-5 videos. My pond5 sells daily 1 video at least.
My Adobe stock account sells 2-4 videos a month.
Is this a lack of advertising? I am not a pro in the other side of how this business works, but I would say that the best investment in your contributors is to attract the clients.

You can message me your account Id and I can take a look into it.  Why some people do better or worse on one site or another over a month or a year is always going to be a mystery.  Generally, I think that most contributors are seeing growth from Adobe, though certainly not all.

Send me your number or email via DM and I'll try to take a look for you.

Dennis

I don't believe there is any issue with my account.
My SS and AS accounts both have the same content. About 15k aerial videos and timelapses/hyperlapses from all around the world. But in 3+ years my AS account sold 2000$ overall, while my SS account is selling the same amount in an average month.
Of course there are much worse stocks then AS, but I left those years ago. And AS just keeps me frustrated, I ask myself again and again, does it even worth keeping uploading to AS content, because I am waiting for a long time that AS will start kicking, and actually there was a small period that my AS account sold almost daily, but for some reason this stopped almost completely and again I am back to have a sale once a week or two, or even less.
Can this be related with investing in promotion?

« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2020, 01:55 »
+2
The same with my friends account, who started selling content about 2 years ago. He have something like 500 videos in his portfolio, and his SS account is selling 300-400$ a month, pond5 around 250$, while his AS account haven't ever sold a single clip and it exists for over a year now.

« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2020, 02:46 »
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Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2020, 15:01 »
+3
1. Select custom thumbnail for video
2. For the rank counter, make video downloads count at least double/triple as much as an image download, as video sales are less frequent (where is the ranking displayed by the way, can't find it?)

« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2020, 15:35 »
+1
Yes it is really weird that for the rank video count the same. I would say they would be a minimum 10x-100x to be fair. By my numbers photos sale at least 50x the number of videos.

1. Select custom thumbnail for video
2. For the rank counter, make video downloads count at least double/triple as much as an image download, as video sales are less frequent (where is the ranking displayed by the way, can't find it?)

« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2020, 08:14 »
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The same with my friends account, who started selling content about 2 years ago. He have something like 500 videos in his portfolio, and his SS account is selling 300-400$ a month, pond5 around 250$, while his AS account haven't ever sold a single clip and it exists for over a year now.
for some reason its the same here, same portfolio in 4 different websites.
Sales are decent on P5 and SS, but hardly existent in Adobe Stock.
Mat says "You need more videos" , but its a lame excuse.
If someone can sell the same videos 40 - 50 monthly, in Pond5, Shutterstock & Envato,
It's you guys @ adobe who are doing something wrong with the ranking algorithms.

« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2020, 10:42 »
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1 - Wholly disagree!  Our templates look awesome and honestly if I didn't believe that, I'd cop to it.  Mogrts as a whole are doing awesome and answer a distinct need in the market.  That said, we do need one key feature and I've pushed for it and hope we get it this year.  We'll see.

I've tried to argue that forcing "responsive time" on each and every template is the wrong thing to do, as I try to provide the ability to adjust various timing elements in my templates, but I keep getting shut down.  I'd like responsive time to be used where it's appropriate and attributes to adjust timing where it makes it a more flexible template.

For example... If I have some live action video as an element, and a title that appears over it, I'd like to provide an attribute to say what frame the title appears, or how long it takes to appear.  Using responsive time, scaling the .mogrt down in Premiere, would make the live video run faster, which isn't the desired effect.  That's sort of a generic example.

« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2020, 13:41 »
0
Hi Dennis, Payoneer integration would be a nice thing to have. 1% less commissions on money transfers, a meaningful amount for some people with big portfolios and/or small pockets.

« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2020, 14:18 »
+1
One or more webminar  (like the ones you've already did) about the right and useful keywords to use for video would be really helpful!
Learning more about what exactly buyers use, words and sentence, to reach what they are looking for, this would be a great help.
Thanks

+1

Q&A with the team that manages the AS search engine would be useful too :)

My thoughts in no particular order:
1. Ability to pick a thumbnail at the time of upload / later
2. Seeing how many times items from a particular collection sold (and for how much)- something like SS already does: "Collection XYZ; 300 files, 15 sales, 297,74$ total"
3. Better way for batch editing keywords / titles on clips that are already online (ability to update them via CSV) and title/keyword database reindexing every X months / once a year (now from what I know even if we edit keywords, change their placement it does absolutely nothing- correct me if I'm wrong)
4. 2/3 warnings before an account gets blocked for uploading "simillar files"- it seemed like a big problem few months earlier here on the forums.
5. Analytics!!!1 (what searches, words made the sale, item views etc.)

Some good requests there - can't disagree with any of them and almost all are ones that we're looking into for the future.

Thanks for the feedback.

Dennis

« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2020, 14:21 »
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My SS account sells daily 2-5 videos. My pond5 sells daily 1 video at least.
My Adobe stock account sells 2-4 videos a month.
Is this a lack of advertising? I am not a pro in the other side of how this business works, but I would say that the best investment in your contributors is to attract the clients.

You can message me your account Id and I can take a look into it.  Why some people do better or worse on one site or another over a month or a year is always going to be a mystery.  Generally, I think that most contributors are seeing growth from Adobe, though certainly not all.

Send me your number or email via DM and I'll try to take a look for you.

Dennis

I don't believe there is any issue with my account.
My SS and AS accounts both have the same content. About 15k aerial videos and timelapses/hyperlapses from all around the world. But in 3+ years my AS account sold 2000$ overall, while my SS account is selling the same amount in an average month.
Of course there are much worse stocks then AS, but I left those years ago. And AS just keeps me frustrated, I ask myself again and again, does it even worth keeping uploading to AS content, because I am waiting for a long time that AS will start kicking, and actually there was a small period that my AS account sold almost daily, but for some reason this stopped almost completely and again I am back to have a sale once a week or two, or even less.
Can this be related with investing in promotion?

Right, I hear you.  Let me know what your account is so I can take a look and potentially offer some input.  There are understandably a ton of variables.  If you let me know your account, I can at least take a look and perhaps offer some feedback on why you trail as compared to others.

Thanks,
Dennis


« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2020, 02:12 »
+2
you're "offering feedback" based on account?!?!
grow up man, take responsibility, there's 3 different contributors here who share the same story.
You're trying to flip it on us.
We don't need your feedback, we are doing great in other marketplaces.

Look into your data, your search algorithms, then look at your competitors, and give yourself honest feedback.
(This applies to your perception of the amazing templates AS has, for real!? did you ever look at VideoHive / Pond5 ?!
Adobe Stock Templates are mediocre, so lame.
But hey, don't trust my opinion, Do a survey , ask your users, ask your friends, are you willing to listen to what they'll tell you? or will you ask them for their accountID too?.
Heck, even Template Monster, Storyblocks and MotionArray have better templates for sale)

It feels as if you're here on these forums only to impress your superiors in their cubicles...
"Look guys, I asked around in the forums and I've done my job for today, can I go back home?"
« Last Edit: January 22, 2020, 02:20 by vectorblazer »

« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2020, 03:39 »
+2
I'd like to see an integration of AS videos with Adobe Portfolio  ::)

« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2020, 04:42 »
+1
Ranking video sales and other file sales with same criteria is not helping at all...

« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2020, 05:22 »
+1
Issues? Opportunities?
Reading embedded metadata directly from video files, like Pond5 does, will be great.

« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2020, 05:41 »
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Subscribe that. Reading Metadata should be as easy as with images. All those excel spreadsheets are a XIX century thing.

Issues? Opportunities?
Reading embedded metadata directly from video files, like Pond5 does, will be great.

« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2020, 07:40 »
+1
I'd like to see an integration of AS videos with Adobe Portfolio  ::)

This please!

Also, are you looking for quality or quantity of uploads? I've made plenty of sales, but not enough uploads so I didn't get the code for free Creative Cloud. I did manage to get the $500 or so that was necessary a year before, but last year you only went for quantity (number of uploads) I do animations and those are a lot of work, so less uploads but more sales.

« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2020, 13:35 »
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Issues? Opportunities?
Reading embedded metadata directly from video files, like Pond5 does, will be great.

They do.  Mine comes through fine.

« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2020, 19:33 »
+2
50% max royalty to support artists would be nice to lead the industry and pressure Shutterstock to pay more share.

JamoImages

  • Stock Producer & Blogger: jamoimages.com
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2020, 01:35 »
+2
50% max royalty to support artists would be nice to lead the industry and pressure Shutterstock to pay more share.

If this happens I would just stop uploading every other stock site (except Shutterstock).  ;)

georgep7

« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2020, 02:30 »
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« Last Edit: January 23, 2020, 10:36 by georgep7 »


« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2020, 15:21 »
+6
you're "offering feedback" based on account?!?!
grow up man, take responsibility, there's 3 different contributors here who share the same story.
You're trying to flip it on us.
We don't need your feedback, we are doing great in other marketplaces.

Look into your data, your search algorithms, then look at your competitors, and give yourself honest feedback.
(This applies to your perception of the amazing templates AS has, for real!? did you ever look at VideoHive / Pond5 ?!
Adobe Stock Templates are mediocre, so lame.
But hey, don't trust my opinion, Do a survey , ask your users, ask your friends, are you willing to listen to what they'll tell you? or will you ask them for their accountID too?.
Heck, even Template Monster, Storyblocks and MotionArray have better templates for sale)

It feels as if you're here on these forums only to impress your superiors in their cubicles...
"Look guys, I asked around in the forums and I've done my job for today, can I go back home?"

Wow, turned on the flames....  No worries...

I think what I'm trying to do here is stay connected and provide input where I can.  Being on any forum is a bit of a scattered approach (and I say this as a person who has frequented forums for nigh on 2 decades.)  Do I need to do this for my superiors?  Heck, no.

My answers are kindly meant and to be helpful.  Sorry that you don't think so.

Do we look into data, search, etc.  Yes, every day.  Do I look at my competitors?  Yes, every day.

Can I please everyone?  Clearly not, but I'll keep trying.  8)


« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2020, 15:26 »
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Issues? Opportunities?
Reading embedded metadata directly from video files, like Pond5 does, will be great.

They do.  Mine comes through fine.

Responding to a few responses on this one and will still be relatively brief.

The challenge is that many people have different workflows (across contributors, agencies, etc.) and to make a change in workflow truly effective, everyone needs to get behind it. 

I love embedded metadata and do advocate for it for video.  Adobe created XMP which is a flexible system that includes standard schemas like EXIF and IPTC which is where photos draws some support.

While I agree that CSVs are the lowest common denominator, they still work and are accepted across the industry.  For that reason alone, I think CSV's are probably still around for a while.  However, there are voices advocating for more embedded metadata.

Thanks for the feedback.

Dennis

« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2020, 16:56 »
+1
Ditto on editorial, both still and video. You're missing a huge market.

AnS

« Reply #50 on: January 31, 2020, 05:43 »
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Selecting video thumbnails should be a must.
I'm trying to crossover from illustrations to animations and the few I have uploaded have terrible thumbnails on Adobestock! :'( If the animation starts with just a few things/lines/shapes/etc. and later is coming together as a whole (self-drawing lines for example, but really anything else), the thumbnail tends to end up an early keyframe with barely anything recognizable, probably noone would even move the cursor over to check it out, it is that unappealing! It really harms the likeliness of getting seen and from a buyer perspective would be annoying as well; just by looking at the thumbnail they would want to know what is it about and they should see the most favourable keyframe in order to maximize the chance of a sale. I can't emphasize the importance of it enough, in my case this tiny issue "costs" a lot.

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #51 on: January 31, 2020, 07:05 »
+1
As I said before in another topic, it's indeed a must-have for Adobe. It's been requested for years now (even when it was Fotolia) and AS simply never implemented it.

« Reply #52 on: January 31, 2020, 07:55 »
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Ditto on editorial, both still and video. You're missing a huge market.

Once again, I totally agree.

I'm curious on how people view the kinds of editorial and which ones everyone does.  The way I see it is:
1) current entertainment, news and sports (places like AP, Reuters and the like)
2) crowd sourced editorial (content that has some IP somewhere but is an otherwise typical shot)
3) archival - anything old or semi-old that has some historical or storytelling value
4) brands or illustrative editorial - we currently accept illustrative editorial pictures (things like logos, brands, etc)

Which ones do you have and which ones generate the most revenue?  Also, if you have both commercial and editorial, what is the percentage split between your commercial and editorial collections - both in terms of content size and revenue?  For example, a collection is 5k clips total with a 3k/2k split between editorial and commercial and my revenue split is 70/30 in favor of editorial.

Thanks,
Dennis

« Reply #53 on: January 31, 2020, 07:57 »
+2
Selecting video thumbnails should be a must.
I'm trying to crossover from illustrations to animations and the few I have uploaded have terrible thumbnails on Adobestock! :'( If the animation starts with just a few things/lines/shapes/etc. and later is coming together as a whole (self-drawing lines for example, but really anything else), the thumbnail tends to end up an early keyframe with barely anything recognizable, probably noone would even move the cursor over to check it out, it is that unappealing! It really harms the likeliness of getting seen and from a buyer perspective would be annoying as well; just by looking at the thumbnail they would want to know what is it about and they should see the most favourable keyframe in order to maximize the chance of a sale. I can't emphasize the importance of it enough, in my case this tiny issue "costs" a lot.

Yes, I have some of my own meager clips that have terrible thumbnails and have brought this up multiple times.  I think we'll see some movement on this particular issue in 2020 - no promises, but I hope so!

« Reply #54 on: January 31, 2020, 08:12 »
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I'm curious on how people view the kinds of editorial and which ones everyone does.  The way I see it is:
1) current entertainment, news and sports (places like AP, Reuters and the like)
2) crowd sourced editorial (content that has some IP somewhere but is an otherwise typical shot)
3) archival - anything old or semi-old that has some historical or storytelling value
4) brands or illustrative editorial - we currently accept illustrative editorial pictures (things like logos, brands, etc)

Which ones do you have and which ones generate the most revenue?  Also, if you have both commercial and editorial, what is the percentage split between your commercial and editorial collections - both in terms of content size and revenue?

Of  my 7668 clips on Shutterstock, 2559 are considered "editorial," but I would consider most of these "unreleased," and not truly "editorial".  If I were to classify those, I'd say 95% of those fall into your #2 category.

While I don't have hard numbers as to how these "editorial" clips sell compared to "non-editorial," I'd bet that the bulk of my high-commission sales are from these 2559 "editorial" files.

« Reply #55 on: January 31, 2020, 12:44 »
+1
I have all kinds of "editorial only" images and videos and they sell well.
I do not understand why Adobe is not accepting editorial the same way another agencies do.
Years ago Istock removed news and events content and stoped accepting it. They didn't want to cannibalize their Getty library.
Adobe removed and stopped accepting some events contend I had credentials for. Why?! Is it because of petential lawsuit? Why other agencies accept and sell the same content without any problems?


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I have all kinds of "editorial only" images and videos and they sell well.
I do not understand why Adobe is not accepting editorial the same way another agencies do.
Years ago Istock removed news and events content and stoped accepting it. They didn't want to cannibalize their Getty library.
Adobe removed and stopped accepting some events contend I had credentials for. Why?! Is it because of petential lawsuit? Why other agencies accept and sell the same content without any problems?

Adobe accept Illustrative editorial images, but not for video.  I am hopeful that we'll expand this as time goes on and certainly from my point of view, I want to include video in that mix. 

Thanks for the response.


 

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