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« on: April 29, 2013, 19:33 »
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I don't know if this post is credible or not, so I ask to our UK fellow. Really this new law was approved?
http://mashable.com/2013/04/29/britain-instagram-photos-ownership/


ShadySue

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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2013, 19:47 »
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I have no idea, but I know they were talking about it and ther was a big petition against it.
Here's the Act, with historical amendments, direct from the government website. Peruse it at your leisure.
http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2012-13/enterpriseandregulatoryreform/documents.html
Instagram is hardly going to be the only place where works will be orphaned.
IIRC, there are several (most? all?) of the micros which strip your copyright metadata from your images.

« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2013, 19:51 »
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Tomorrow I want read it thanks ShadySue.

gillian vann

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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2013, 20:53 »
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OMG, but what if my friend in the UK shares one of my pics on her facebook or instagram page? Have they thought of that?

these domestic rules for the internet just can't work.

« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2013, 01:23 »
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This looks like another good reason for me to leave the country.  I read the article on Petapixel about this and people have to do a "diligent search".  That's good but if they don't, I have to waste time and money on the legal system and hope they interpret "diligent search" correctly or I'll lose the case and have to pay all those huge fees.

I see the Plus registry page they mention is still in beta and wont accept bulk registration of images until phase 2 that hasn't started yet.  And there's a $125 a year fee.

So how do I protect my images now?
http://petapixel.com/2013/04/29/uk-passes-controversial-copyright-act-may-yield-a-firestorm-of-litigation/
« Last Edit: April 30, 2013, 01:38 by sharpshot »

rubyroo

« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2013, 02:20 »
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I can't believe this has become a reality already.  I remember reading articles regarding the threat of it, but thought there was still time for reason to prevail.

Good letter by David Bailey - and absolutely right about 'putting the cart before the horse' in relation to the failure to take account of the effect of data-stripping.  I can only hope that some other big names will step forward and make them see sense.

Why are politicians increasingly incapable of giving fair weight to all sides of an argument?  Are they increasingly becoming too young and inexperienced, or spending so much time on social media that their mental faculties are fractured?  (Maybe both...)

« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2013, 03:51 »
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I think I'll get a small plot of land and grow potatoes... :(

rubyroo

« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2013, 03:53 »
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Yeah, I've been feeling a bit like that this morning too.  :(

« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2013, 04:00 »
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Paul Fleet:
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I think I'll get a small plot of land and grow potatoes... :(
Sounds good, take me with you  8)

Microbius

« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2013, 04:34 »
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On the more positive side the PLUS initiative sounds interesting https://www.plusregistry.org

Problem is no bulk uploads yet

gillian vann

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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2013, 05:53 »
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Paul Fleet:
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I think I'll get a small plot of land and grow potatoes... :(
Sounds good, take me with you  8)
me too, but only if we put some vines as well :)

OM

« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2013, 06:29 »
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OMG, but what if my friend in the UK shares one of my pics on her facebook or instagram page? Have they thought of that?

these domestic rules for the internet just can't work.


It won't stay that way for long. The silly con valley lobbyists just found the fast-track route via those wunderfool people that brought you the Magna Carta. Next, the world!

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"The UK govt passed the Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Act which effectively makes so-called 'orphaned' content posted on social media sites public domain. Corporations now only need to have made a "diligent search" to find the owner of the content before use. From the article: 'The Act contains changes to UK copyright law which permit the commercial exploitation of images where information identifying the owner is missing, so-called "orphan works", by placing the work into what's known as "extended collective licensing" schemes. Since most digital images on the internet today are orphans - the metadata is missing or has been stripped by a large organization - millions of photographs and illustrations are swept into such schemes.'"


http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/04/29/177203/uk-passes-instagram-act?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed

No doubt the money-making schemes for the swept-up (free) images have been well thought out in advance of the legislation. Old Mafia saying, "Make a law, create a business."  :o


« Last Edit: April 30, 2013, 06:43 by OM »

« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2013, 08:16 »
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OK forget the Potatoes We'll  grow Vines and Hops and Barley... Hold on isn't  vodka made from potatoes? 

« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2013, 04:42 »
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OK forget the Potatoes We'll  grow Vines and Hops and Barley... Hold on isn't  vodka made from potatoes?

Try quinoa for the health food suckers who grab faithfully every fad that comes around on TV like it's a new discovery that will make them live longer. Or yet quinoa vodka and strike both markets.

gillian vann

  • *Gillian*
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2013, 05:09 »
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OK forget the Potatoes We'll  grow Vines and Hops and Barley... Hold on isn't  vodka made from potatoes?

Try quinoa for the health food suckers who grab faithfully every fad that comes around on TV like it's a new discovery that will make them live longer. Or yet quinoa vodka and strike both markets.
oi, some of us like quinoa. It's not as detestable as wild rice or goji berries, or even cranberries, which only taste good when they've got sugar and vodka added in.

Poncke v2


Batman

« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2013, 19:09 »
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Orphan works are works under copyright where the owner cannot be identified, or the copyright cannot be properly established.
New licensing arrangements aim to open up of the vast number of works stored in catalogues and libraries. Under previous legislation, the government has argued, it would have been difficult to proceed with the mass digitisation of such collections.


drial7m1

« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2013, 11:57 »
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OMG, but what if my friend in the UK shares one of my pics on her facebook or instagram page? Have they thought of that?

these domestic rules for the internet just can't work.

With the Internet as it is, you are correct, domestic rules will not work well, but that is the problem we are running into with a global economy and a World Wide Web.

While I am a US Citizen, I think this is a law is extremely short sighted and there will be major problems given the fact that Parliament has not defined what a reasonable search is.  That could be everything from a quick Google search to a full in depth search.  They could also say that they checked on Tineye and found nothing.

and yes you can make Vodka from Potato's, but I'd prefer to have some blue agave for Tequila

Have a great weekend everyone! 


 

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