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« Reply #250 on: April 04, 2020, 21:09 »
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The CDC has reversed its recommendations about using face masks as the coronavirus pandemic develops.

You left out the part where Trump told everyone it was voluntary several times, and also said several times he wont be wearing one, while standing right next to all his cronies.

It is voluntary, the CDC isn't Trump, who cares about Trump, he can wear a mask or not. The CDC says recommended that we now wear masks. Trump can go die with no mask and make people happy.


« Reply #251 on: April 05, 2020, 01:33 »
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The CDC has reversed its recommendations about using face masks as the coronavirus pandemic develops.

You left out the part where Trump told everyone it was voluntary several times, and also said several times he wont be wearing one, while standing right next to all his cronies.

It is voluntary, the CDC isn't Trump, who cares about Trump, he can wear a mask or not. The CDC says recommended that we now wear masks. Trump can go die with no mask and make people happy.

#TrumpDerangementSyndrome

Shelma1

« Reply #252 on: April 05, 2020, 06:32 »
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The CDC has reversed its recommendations about using face masks as the coronavirus pandemic develops.

You left out the part where Trump told everyone it was voluntary several times, and also said several times he wont be wearing one, while standing right next to all his cronies.

It is voluntary, the CDC isn't Trump, who cares about Trump, he can wear a mask or not. The CDC says recommended that we now wear masks. Trump can go die with no mask and make people happy.

I don't care what happens to him. But his followers put healthcare workers' lives at risk by continuing to spread the virus.

« Reply #253 on: April 05, 2020, 06:37 »
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The CDC has reversed its recommendations about using face masks as the coronavirus pandemic develops.

You left out the part where Trump told everyone it was voluntary several times, and also said several times he wont be wearing one, while standing right next to all his cronies.

It is voluntary, the CDC isn't Trump, who cares about Trump, he can wear a mask or not. The CDC says recommended that we now wear masks. Trump can go die with no mask and make people happy.

I don't care what happens to him. But his followers put healthcare workers' lives at risk by continuing to spread the virus.

You mean the democratic mayor of New York is putting everybody at risk because he denied the seriousness of the virus. Go check your facts, lad.

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« Reply #254 on: April 05, 2020, 09:28 »
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The CDC has reversed its recommendations about using face masks as the coronavirus pandemic develops.

You left out the part where Trump told everyone it was voluntary several times, and also said several times he wont be wearing one, while standing right next to all his cronies.
And what heads of state, presidents, dictators, kings or queens are going to be visiting him in the White House during the pandemic?

Shelma1

« Reply #255 on: April 05, 2020, 09:57 »
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The CDC has reversed its recommendations about using face masks as the coronavirus pandemic develops.

You left out the part where Trump told everyone it was voluntary several times, and also said several times he wont be wearing one, while standing right next to all his cronies.

It is voluntary, the CDC isn't Trump, who cares about Trump, he can wear a mask or not. The CDC says recommended that we now wear masks. Trump can go die with no mask and make people happy.

I don't care what happens to him. But his followers put healthcare workers' lives at risk by continuing to spread the virus.

You mean the democratic mayor of New York is putting everybody at risk because he denied the seriousness of the virus. Go check your facts, lad.

First Id better check to see whether Ive grown a penis, since apparently Ive become a lad.

Shelma1

« Reply #256 on: April 05, 2020, 09:58 »
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The CDC has reversed its recommendations about using face masks as the coronavirus pandemic develops.

You left out the part where Trump told everyone it was voluntary several times, and also said several times he wont be wearing one, while standing right next to all his cronies.
And what heads of state, presidents, dictators, kings or queens are going to be visiting him in the White House during the pandemic?

What...theyre not all lining up to bow before him? Fake news! Lol.

« Reply #257 on: April 05, 2020, 10:19 »
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The CDC has reversed its recommendations about using face masks as the coronavirus pandemic develops.

You left out the part where Trump told everyone it was voluntary several times, and also said several times he wont be wearing one, while standing right next to all his cronies.

It is voluntary, the CDC isn't Trump, who cares about Trump, he can wear a mask or not. The CDC says recommended that we now wear masks. Trump can go die with no mask and make people happy.

I don't care what happens to him. But his followers put healthcare workers' lives at risk by continuing to spread the virus.

You mean the democratic mayor of New York is putting everybody at risk because he denied the seriousness of the virus. Go check your facts, lad.

A classical case of whataboutism.

Allow me to highlight that what the POTUS has to say is many, many times more important than what any other politician has to say.
He is the most powerful voice in the country and he must be hold responsible for his early denial and mocking of the whole crisis, for his lack of leadership and for his appalling lack of action in getting the country ready to deal with it.

Have a look here:
https://youtu.be/NezEbDx4B9A

Having said that, Blasio is also a failure.

Let's fire them both, ASAP!

Deal?
« Last Edit: April 05, 2020, 10:47 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #258 on: April 05, 2020, 11:32 »
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The CDC has reversed its recommendations about using face masks as the coronavirus pandemic develops.

You left out the part where Trump told everyone it was voluntary several times, and also said several times he wont be wearing one, while standing right next to all his cronies.

It is voluntary, the CDC isn't Trump, who cares about Trump, he can wear a mask or not. The CDC says recommended that we now wear masks. Trump can go die with no mask and make people happy.

I don't care what happens to him. But his followers put healthcare workers' lives at risk by continuing to spread the virus.

You mean the democratic mayor of New York is putting everybody at risk because he denied the seriousness of the virus. Go check your facts, lad.

A classical case of whataboutism.

Allow me to highlight that what the POTUS has to say is many, many times more important than what any other politician has to say.
He is the most powerful voice in the country and he must be hold responsible for his early denial and mocking of the whole crisis, for his lack of leadership and for his appalling lack of action in getting the country ready to deal with it.

Have a look here:
https://youtu.be/NezEbDx4B9A

Having said that, Blasio is also a failure.

Let's fire them both, ASAP!

Deal?

I would love to see whole statements. Because media loves to clip out only snippets that suit their agenda. I've seen this so many times that I don't trust any f*cking media anymore. Trump blocked any travel from and to China in January because of the virus and the media marked him xhenophobic. How could that go together with his "denial" statements? Go figure.

« Reply #259 on: April 05, 2020, 13:01 »
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The CDC has reversed its recommendations about using face masks as the coronavirus pandemic develops.

You left out the part where Trump told everyone it was voluntary several times, and also said several times he wont be wearing one, while standing right next to all his cronies.

It is voluntary, the CDC isn't Trump, who cares about Trump, he can wear a mask or not. The CDC says recommended that we now wear masks. Trump can go die with no mask and make people happy.

I don't care what happens to him. But his followers put healthcare workers' lives at risk by continuing to spread the virus.

You mean the democratic mayor of New York is putting everybody at risk because he denied the seriousness of the virus. Go check your facts, lad.

A classical case of whataboutism.

Allow me to highlight that what the POTUS has to say is many, many times more important than what any other politician has to say.
He is the most powerful voice in the country and he must be hold responsible for his early denial and mocking of the whole crisis, for his lack of leadership and for his appalling lack of action in getting the country ready to deal with it.

Have a look here:
https://youtu.be/NezEbDx4B9A

Having said that, Blasio is also a failure.

Let's fire them both, ASAP!

Deal?

I would love to see whole statements. Because media loves to clip out only snippets that suit their agenda. I've seen this so many times that I don't trust any f*cking media anymore. Trump blocked any travel from and to China in January because of the virus and the media marked him xhenophobic. How could that go together with his "denial" statements? Go figure.

Yeah right. When the media is reporting about de Blasio's failures, the media is real news. But when the same media is reporting about how Trump failed to get our country ready, it's "fake news".
Look who's talking about cherry-picking only what fits one's agenda.   ;)

Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.

And if you would really love to see the whole statements, just look them up. All the interviews, press conferences and rallies when he downplayed and mocked the virus crisis, failing to act, failing to do what was needed to save lives, are widely available.

Leaving the mocking aside, the failure to get people tested, the failure to secure enough protective equipment, etc, were all mistakes that led to a national disaster.

The evidence is overwhelming.

So I'm asking again: since you brought him up, are you ready to fire both de Blasio and Trump for their incompetence?
 ;)
« Last Edit: April 05, 2020, 13:21 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #260 on: April 05, 2020, 14:49 »
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« Reply #261 on: April 05, 2020, 17:14 »
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https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152

Yes... preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus. Later investigations conducted by the Chinese (and other) authorities did find clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus. What's your point?

« Reply #262 on: April 05, 2020, 22:04 »
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The CDC has reversed its recommendations about using face masks as the coronavirus pandemic develops.

You left out the part where Trump told everyone it was voluntary several times, and also said several times he wont be wearing one, while standing right next to all his cronies.
evolution in action?

« Reply #263 on: April 05, 2020, 22:12 »
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I would love to see whole statements. Because media loves to clip out only snippets that suit their agenda. I've seen this so many times that I don't trust any f*cking media anymore. Trump blocked any travel from and to China in January because of the virus and the media marked him xhenophobic. How could that go together with his "denial" statements? Go figure.

yes, the xenophobic president ( he still calls it the chinese virus) blocked travel but he did NOTHING to prepare for the pandemic here - 2 months wasted for which thousands will die. for MONTHS he declared the virus to be a hoax and tht  the '15' cases would miraculously disappear - now he says he was the first to call it a pandemic, and that 200k deaths will be a victory for his policies!

even now he still resists central planning/logistics to keep prices down while sending resources where they're needed-- just listen to him - everything he blames on others is something he actually did - eg chastising governors for not planning years ago when he destroyed the obama era pandemic task force & ignored wargaming that exposed the peris of a pandemic(he said "no one could have predicted ths")

« Reply #264 on: April 05, 2020, 22:14 »
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from 538:

The number of reported COVID-19 cases is not a very useful indicator of anything unless you also know something about how tests are being conducted.
In fact, in some cases, places with lower nominal case counts may actually be worse off. In general, a high number of tests is associated with a more robust medical infrastructure and a more adept government response to the coronavirus. ...

Germany, for example, which is conducting about 50,000 tests per day seven times more than the U.K. has more than twice as many reported cases as the U.K., but theyve also had only about one-third as many deaths....

Doing more tests is good, and likely leads to better long-run outcomes, even if it also results in higher case counts that people will freak out about in the short run. I dont usually like to be so didactic, but I hope youll be a more educated consumer of COVID-19 data instead of just looking at case counts ticking upward on cable news screens without context. That context includes not only reporting about the amount of testing, but also indications such as hospital strain, which are more robust since they arent subject to as many vagaries about how tests are conducted.8 Even if youre not from New York, Gov. Andrew Cuomos daily briefings are worth watching because they do the best job Ive seen of providing this context.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/coronavirus-case-counts-are-meaningless/

« Reply #265 on: April 05, 2020, 22:44 »
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No president can stop the Coronavirus. We'd get the same result no matter who is in charge. The US has a system where governors have tremendous power over their states and can overrule the president in many things.

The failure to contain the Coronavirus is on the states as much as it's on the federal level. Doesn't matter though, the results would have been the same. We spend decades outsourcing our production of medical supplies to China. When the world's factory shut down in January and February, every country was struggling to stock up on medical supplies. That's why the European countries are suffering as much as we are.

We simply relied on China too much and now we're paying the price.

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« Reply #266 on: April 06, 2020, 00:58 »
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Yeah right. When the media is reporting about de Blasio's failures, the media is real news. But when the same media is reporting about how Trump failed to get our country ready, it's "fake news".
Look who's talking about cherry-picking only what fits one's agenda.   ;)

Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.

It's always the same... Obama wasn't born in the US, he's a terrorist, he hates America, is a Muslim, would support Muslims over the US: all credible news.

Trump doesn't have as much money as he says he does, he dodged the draft, is racist and sexist, it wasn't a perfect call, he's most definitely not a stable genius, he doesn't have the best words: FAKE NEWS!


« Reply #267 on: April 06, 2020, 02:12 »
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One of my files has just been sold in Wuhan, China according to Latest Downloads Location stats on SS! I'm so happy to see that! Let's hope that things are getting better!

« Reply #268 on: April 06, 2020, 03:17 »
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"No president can stop the Coronavirus. We'd get the same result no matter who is in charge." So whatever decision the President makes makes no difference? The "President" isn't in charge anyway the people around him aren't that daft.

« Reply #269 on: April 06, 2020, 03:36 »
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from 538:

The number of reported COVID-19 cases is not a very useful indicator of anything unless you also know something about how tests are being conducted.
In fact, in some cases, places with lower nominal case counts may actually be worse off. In general, a high number of tests is associated with a more robust medical infrastructure and a more adept government response to the coronavirus. ...

Germany, for example, which is conducting about 50,000 tests per day seven times more than the U.K. has more than twice as many reported cases as the U.K., but theyve also had only about one-third as many deaths....

Doing more tests is good, and likely leads to better long-run outcomes, even if it also results in higher case counts that people will freak out about in the short run. I dont usually like to be so didactic, but I hope youll be a more educated consumer of COVID-19 data instead of just looking at case counts ticking upward on cable news screens without context. That context includes not only reporting about the amount of testing, but also indications such as hospital strain, which are more robust since they arent subject to as many vagaries about how tests are conducted.8 Even if youre not from New York, Gov. Andrew Cuomos daily briefings are worth watching because they do the best job Ive seen of providing this context.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/coronavirus-case-counts-are-meaningless/
Even deaths are not reliable as different countries are reporting differently e.g UK are only just incorporating non hospital deaths. The rates of increase or decrease within individual countries is the important factor. We can see that the more people adhere to Social Distancing the more the effect on deaths/cases increases whatever the inconsistencies of measures.

« Reply #270 on: April 06, 2020, 03:37 »
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The CDC has reversed its recommendations about using face masks as the coronavirus pandemic develops.

You left out the part where Trump told everyone it was voluntary several times, and also said several times he wont be wearing one, while standing right next to all his cronies.

It is voluntary, the CDC isn't Trump, who cares about Trump, he can wear a mask or not. The CDC says recommended that we now wear masks. Trump can go die with no mask and make people happy.

I don't care what happens to him. But his followers put healthcare workers' lives at risk by continuing to spread the virus.

You mean the democratic mayor of New York is putting everybody at risk because he denied the seriousness of the virus. Go check your facts, lad.

A classical case of whataboutism.

Allow me to highlight that what the POTUS has to say is many, many times more important than what any other politician has to say.
He is the most powerful voice in the country and he must be hold responsible for his early denial and mocking of the whole crisis, for his lack of leadership and for his appalling lack of action in getting the country ready to deal with it.

Have a look here:
https://youtu.be/NezEbDx4B9A

Having said that, Blasio is also a failure.

Let's fire them both, ASAP!

Deal?

I would love to see whole statements. Because media loves to clip out only snippets that suit their agenda. I've seen this so many times that I don't trust any f*cking media anymore. Trump blocked any travel from and to China in January because of the virus and the media marked him xhenophobic. How could that go together with his "denial" statements? Go figure.

Yeah right. When the media is reporting about de Blasio's failures, the media is real news. But when the same media is reporting about how Trump failed to get our country ready, it's "fake news".
Look who's talking about cherry-picking only what fits one's agenda.   ;)

Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.

And if you would really love to see the whole statements, just look them up. All the interviews, press conferences and rallies when he downplayed and mocked the virus crisis, failing to act, failing to do what was needed to save lives, are widely available.

Leaving the mocking aside, the failure to get people tested, the failure to secure enough protective equipment, etc, were all mistakes that led to a national disaster.

The evidence is overwhelming.

So I'm asking again: since you brought him up, are you ready to fire both de Blasio and Trump for their incompetence?
 ;)

Enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCzJlhE35YM

« Reply #271 on: April 06, 2020, 07:48 »
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The CDC has reversed its recommendations about using face masks as the coronavirus pandemic develops.

You left out the part where Trump told everyone it was voluntary several times, and also said several times he wont be wearing one, while standing right next to all his cronies.

It is voluntary, the CDC isn't Trump, who cares about Trump, he can wear a mask or not. The CDC says recommended that we now wear masks. Trump can go die with no mask and make people happy.

I don't care what happens to him. But his followers put healthcare workers' lives at risk by continuing to spread the virus.

You mean the democratic mayor of New York is putting everybody at risk because he denied the seriousness of the virus. Go check your facts, lad.

A classical case of whataboutism.

Allow me to highlight that what the POTUS has to say is many, many times more important than what any other politician has to say.
He is the most powerful voice in the country and he must be hold responsible for his early denial and mocking of the whole crisis, for his lack of leadership and for his appalling lack of action in getting the country ready to deal with it.

Have a look here:
https://youtu.be/NezEbDx4B9A

Having said that, Blasio is also a failure.

Let's fire them both, ASAP!

Deal?

I would love to see whole statements. Because media loves to clip out only snippets that suit their agenda. I've seen this so many times that I don't trust any f*cking media anymore. Trump blocked any travel from and to China in January because of the virus and the media marked him xhenophobic. How could that go together with his "denial" statements? Go figure.

Yeah right. When the media is reporting about de Blasio's failures, the media is real news. But when the same media is reporting about how Trump failed to get our country ready, it's "fake news".
Look who's talking about cherry-picking only what fits one's agenda.   ;)

Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.

And if you would really love to see the whole statements, just look them up. All the interviews, press conferences and rallies when he downplayed and mocked the virus crisis, failing to act, failing to do what was needed to save lives, are widely available.

Leaving the mocking aside, the failure to get people tested, the failure to secure enough protective equipment, etc, were all mistakes that led to a national disaster.

The evidence is overwhelming.

So I'm asking again: since you brought him up, are you ready to fire both de Blasio and Trump for their incompetence?
 ;)

Enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCzJlhE35YM

You obviously didn't watch the real thing, did you? Instead, you prefer to watch what some random dude has to say about the reality.

Here is the full transcript:

Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus, you know that right? Coronavirus, theyre politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, Hows President Trump doing? They go, Oh, not good, not good. They have no clue. They dont have any clue. They cant even count their votes in Iowa. They cant even count. No, they cant. They cant count their votes.

One of my people came up to me and said, Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didnt work out too well. They couldnt do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. Theyd been doing it since you got in. Its all turning. They lost. Its all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. But we did something thats been pretty amazing. We have 15 people in this massive country and because of the fact that we went early. We went early, we could have had a lot more than that. Were doing great. Our country is doing so great.


Our country is doing great, indeed!  Right?

Breaking News: it's a disaster, no matter how you spin it.
Trump's denial (we only have 15 deaths, therefore we must be doing a fantastic job) and his failure to listen to people who warned him that this is is no joking matter (they politicize Corona, their new hoax) is massive leadership failure.

A failure to come up with early testing that could have saved lives, a failure to secure enough protective equipment and medical supplies that could have saved lives.

And there are countless other interviews and press conferences, where he is downplaying the seriousness of the matter. Look them up, look for official transcripts, not for some random dude spinning the reality.

The reality will punch you hard, straight in your face, as it happened even to him:

From "we are doing great because we only have 15 deaths", now he has the audacity to say:
"So youre talking about 2.2 million deaths, 2.2 million people from this. And so if we could hold that down, as were saying, to 100,000. Its a horrible number, maybe even less but to 100,000. So we have between 100 and 200,000, and we altogether have done a very good job"

Wake up, man!
« Last Edit: April 06, 2020, 09:07 by Zero Talent »

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« Reply #272 on: April 06, 2020, 09:13 »
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Well there we have it guys and gals... who would have guessed it? All these months and years of division, hostility, confusion, arguments and debate... and finally it's all been solved by a video from a guy named Tim. Well, I guess I was wrong and Trump is actually a great guy. I feel so stupid now, what was I thinking?!



 

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