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« Reply #150 on: March 24, 2020, 08:52 »
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you can thank American #fakenews media for Trump's slow reaction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKq8UYYQTYA&

You can thank Donald Trump for Trump's slow reaction... he's the biggest source of fake news on the planet! Sorry, but if it's come out of his mouth, then it's more likely to be false than it is true.

When a Trump stopped flights from China, Biden made it clear that the move was racist and xenophobic. Thats all you need to know about how Biden would have addressed the crisis. Would we now 10x or 100x the number of deaths. A scary thought.


« Reply #151 on: March 24, 2020, 11:58 »
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The extreme right dictatorship championed by a poor approach to freedom of expression, results in systematic manipulation of the individual, manipulated with extraordinary precision and individualized, the level of radicalization of normal people is extraordinary. Hate is death and dictatorship. the truth cannot be hidden. You are making history. So much talent in the country for nothing, to continue proclaiming the lies of the Messiah, the one who doubts the Messiah, is not worthy of being American. Buy bullets, but online, stay at home.

« Reply #152 on: March 24, 2020, 12:17 »
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They managed to deceive with the violations of Sweden, then the networks managed to get the heir to practice in the USA and then the BREXIT. We protect ourselves from Hate because we know where it leads. Your enemies, on the agenda are the Chinese, Europeans and Communists. Everyone wants to defeat Messiah. Economists warned that the economy was bad. Therefore, this management will finish its lines in history. You are alone, lucky. Look, you are no longer so alone, Japan, it helps you.

« Reply #153 on: March 24, 2020, 14:34 »
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This is not a regional crisis.

No fun.




« Reply #154 on: March 24, 2020, 14:35 »
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Trump is crazy, I'm pretty sure now.

« Reply #155 on: March 24, 2020, 14:57 »
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I don't think so, he knows what he wants. He is surrounded by great expert manipulators of reality. Experts who hate their people to hide that their experts are the hairdresser and manicure. Fortunately, our children are far from that education of hatred of the invasion at the border, illegal immigrants are criminals, and the virus is not American, AIDS is gay and Covid is from outside.


Without the right to vacations, without the right to unemployment benefits, without the right to universal health, exclaimed for a halt to enrich pharmacists and insurers, macho, retrograde, gender violence, too religious,... in short, Fortunately, the FBI is taking the problem of hatred seriously and making its arrests.

Before, the USA had problems, now only one, the manipulation of society, the kidnapping of freedom around a freedom of expression for only a few, while society in general looks the other way, claiming that its gay friends are good The immigrants who know if they are good, the rest do not.
The Chinese people are distinguished by HONOR, USA for the hatred,  the bipartisan system, saving some and then others sharing power.
The paradox, the power is left without its sheep.


Is the POTU responsible for the virus? No, you are responsible for your country. To protect its inhabitants.
But it seems that the media of Trump and his empire in bots, trolls, and hate, as well as the army of foreign countries, are struggling to divert even this problem from people's brains, a virus and life, this is not important, the important thing is to show that Obama is African, that Bush was not the one who gave money rescuing the factories,... rewriting history.
They are able to argue from HATE rather than save themselves. Is incredible.

« Reply #156 on: March 24, 2020, 18:15 »
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Just what If....I know most of you hat Pres. Trump...But what if the Chinese created this virus in the lab to reduce their population of elders as the 70 year old plus people old do not produce for the Chinese government. They just use up sources/food. Something went wrong in the Chinese lab and they had a very bad accident and the virus was release/by accident.. Just what if...

« Reply #157 on: March 24, 2020, 18:46 »
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Do not worry about your parents, brothers, grandparents, uncles, friends, acquaintances, neighbors, creating hatred for the Chinese, that is what is important. You are no longer the strongest country, it is China again and you are in prehistory. I don't think China will help you.
Once you have a lot of hatred for the Chinese, what happens?


You will see all the very men in the USA, once again women survive more. In other words, the stronger sex is women. As for the feminists being terrorists, you must go to the police to denounce, meanwhile, the feminists if they are ending the American families, they are free, and the abusers are left alone. True.
What happens if it happens again, if a virus escapes???



That surely many Americans will not know him.
See what women from a WI town says today. To learn.


" ................

While individuals do what they can to meet their needs from home, they hope they can wait out the virus long enough. It will ultimately depend on how quickly authorities can expand supplies and support for health workers and researchers.

..... will be keeping tabs on the action from home and hoping for good news. 

Just because we have health issues, we are not throw-away people, ....... said. Im 59, and a mother, sister, wife and aunt. I dont want to be a statistic just one more number of people who died because of the inaction of this administration." ............






worry about life and do not look at the figures, they will soon give you the names and surnames of each family.



Do not ask yourself whether to exterminate the Chinese, ask why all those who without a family receive the hospital bill of hundreds of thousands of dollars and what a sadder, and vulnerable society you are, are going to commit suicide.


Not everyone in the USA has mental problems, some see the problem
These days your generation of Sanitaries is exposing itself to a viral load that will cause the best and most caring and brave to be cremated soon. A whole elite of well-trained people.

By the way, the virus drinks the lungs in hours, the relatives die alone, without being able to say goodbye, generally due to the body's own defenses that kill us because it does not know what is happening.


What do we do with the USA if it leaves all international treaties to save the planet?





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It seems that you are used to being afraid of grandmothers, it bothers you that a man tells you that women live, because I know the whole lot, gays, immigrants, blacks, Muslims, Jews, Europeans,... Chinese
You will see cheap beach illiterate, in Europe we do not cover the busts of the statues so as not to disturb the religions, *. Breasts are a beautiful thing. Fool.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2020, 18:55 by Tenebroso »

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« Reply #158 on: March 24, 2020, 19:17 »
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It's very simple! Explained in less than 4 min.... we can't be healthy in a sick ecosystem! We fYcked up everything in this planet, it's our turn now
VIRUS LETTER (lettera dal virus) #ASCOLTA.


https://youtu.be/S6-An69TNMY

« Reply #159 on: March 24, 2020, 20:03 »
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Just what If....I know most of you hat Pres. Trump...But what if the Chinese created this virus in the lab to reduce their population of elders as the 70 year old plus people old do not produce for the Chinese government. They just use up sources/food. Something went wrong in the Chinese lab and they had a very bad accident and the virus was release/by accident.. Just what if...

A pile of horseshit.

This book explains with convincing arguments why viruses and pandemics (plague inclusive) have historically emerged from Eurasia and not from the Americas (nor Africa):

https://books.google.com/books/about/Guns_Germs_and_Steel.html?id=kLKTa_OeoNIC&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button

What happened is Europeans decimating with their viruses (also helped by their acquired immunity) roughly 90% (tens of millions) of the native American population (and not only).
« Last Edit: March 24, 2020, 20:45 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #160 on: March 24, 2020, 20:37 »
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Yes. The problem with this flu, not the flu, is that the history of pandemics in the USA indicates that they are going to be a meme compared to this one. Scientists warned. From Spain and Italy we won. You can stop it. Do something. You just have to read the media, to understand the real magnitude of the problem. You can't be thinking about going to the beach. The one in front should be respected, not participating in the spread of the virus. Until the vaccine arrives, one wave, two waves. Stay home.

Americans are in shape? Well, don't think about votes or elections. For that, you have to start the country, and for the moment, you have not closed it yet, I do not know what you are waiting for. How many dead is the number that the American people say, that's fine!!!!!
There are vaccines for the measles virus, and it still exists.
You will see, if the vaccine is obtained, vaccinating the planet is not easy.



Olympics in 21?
But you realize the magnitude of this problem. Because democracies seem to have a hard time staying home in isolation.
only 40% of the country is half closed.
Please put the TV cameras in the ICU units in NY. You will see how guest stays at home.


There are many good things about this, whoever survives. Governments will try to be prepared. this virus is very weak. Imagine a virus with a lethality of 11% and this level of asymptomatic contagion.
The last thing, the viral load is so brutal among many populations, that it seems to be, according to some studies, and the World Health Organization itself, that young people are not exempt from dying.


How happy we were a few days ago and we did not value it.


I hope to see my son physically the summer of the 21st. Hopefully sooner, but at the moment few airlines are flying.

At Easter, Trump wants families to get together, dammit, put a little order, please.


Well, this crisis has touched you with this administration, well. Please take material to the doctors, health personnel, cleaning personnel, firefighters, police, army. bring masks to grandparents' residences. Demand to do things since yesterday.

LMS

« Reply #161 on: March 25, 2020, 00:18 »
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All politics and origin conspiracies aside, what the world (the entire world in unison) needs to do is slow this down enough that science and medical personnel have time to figure out what does and doesn't work and how to deal with it.  We need more protective supplies, respirators and health workers to deal with this pandemic.  We need time to find out if plasma antibodies or certain drugs can help heal those infected, & time to develop and test vaccines.  time to develop and make faster and affordable testing kits.  It's happened fast and most of the world didn't take it anywhere near seriously enough in the beginning, or we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now.  The question is will we as a species learn from this and prepare for future strains and outbreaks?  when the next new virus comes will we be more prepared, or will every $ be thrown into rebuilding the economy?

The other thing that bothers me is that a lot of people feel safe and invincible because they keep being told that we need to protect the aged and immune suppressed, but there are healthy young people dying as well and the symptoms seem to be very atypical with some. 

« Reply #162 on: March 25, 2020, 01:33 »
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Just what If....I know most of you hat Pres. Trump...But what if the Chinese created this virus in the lab to reduce their population of elders as the 70 year old plus people old do not produce for the Chinese government. They just use up sources/food. Something went wrong in the Chinese lab and they had a very bad accident and the virus was release/by accident.. Just what if...
What if the people who hate Trump are right and he is basing his decisions on  his world view of fake news and alternative facts? Come back in two weeks and tell us how its going.

« Reply #163 on: March 25, 2020, 02:46 »
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I don't hate Trump. It's not my f problem. If the USA becomes a danger for the whole world planes will not fly there. That speech (we hate americans in Europe) is stupid and outdated, we understand your right to vote a clown to rule your nation (It happens here too all the time), and we have right wind parties, far right parties and far left parties too. That's not the point.

But, young people is dying here too, doctors, police, nurses, etc.  In Europe we have universal healthcare systems and we are shitting in our pants. Are we stupid maybe? We are asking for help, from China (Italy), for the NATO (Spain), from our neighbour countries (France), from the EU, from big corporations...

I think that the POTUS does not have the right to kill the american people. That's all.




« Reply #164 on: March 25, 2020, 03:00 »
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SPAIN

2.937 deads
41.900 infected
more than 13% of all health personnel infected

Universal healthcare system, nobody without treatment and national lockdown.


« Reply #165 on: March 25, 2020, 03:40 »
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Just what If....I know most of you hat Pres. Trump...But what if the Chinese created this virus in the lab to reduce their population of elders as the 70 year old plus people old do not produce for the Chinese government. They just use up sources/food. Something went wrong in the Chinese lab and they had a very bad accident and the virus was release/by accident.. Just what if...

If you go down that route I can make a much more convincing argument. What if the virus was spread by the Americans just like they have done several times?

For example, one in the 1920s when the US government offered blankets to north-western Native-Americans purposely infected with tuberculosis so they would all die, or at least weaken them so the americans could steal their lands?

Or the other time in the 1980s when they also tried to infect Cuba with hemorrhagic fever which killed hundreds of people among them over 100 children? In fact his wasn't the first attempt to do it as in the 1960/70s they've tried it too.

I'm sure many more examples exist.

And in the present situation the coronavirus was meant to create havoc in the Chinese and European economies since this is the declared plan from Trump. Even an idiot like him and his advisers must know that what made "Murica" "great" in the past were the profits from the two world wars. In fact it's one of the reasons why US sow so many wars. After the destruction the US companies gain a new market for rebuilding.

But since the virus is mutating more than expected, any treatment US may had to protect their citizens and profit on the death of innocent (the most profitable business of USA) the US lost control of it.

See, it's really easy to make up a much more convincing argument against USA.

Simply because if there's one country in the world that is known to have no morals and have in fact made use of weapons of mass destruction over and over is the US (atom bomb, bio-warfare, chemical warfare). In America precedents count a lot. Your legal system is based on them. So what does the precedents tell in this case?

Do I believe in any of I've written above? Not really. But if there were an evidence of foul play I would bet all my money on it. The track record of USA coupled with a lunatic president who even mimics Mussolini in the gestures, expressions and values leave little doubt.

« Last Edit: March 25, 2020, 03:58 by MicroVet »

« Reply #166 on: March 25, 2020, 05:29 »
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Just what If....I know most of you hat Pres. Trump...But what if the Chinese created this virus in the lab to reduce their population of elders as the 70 year old plus people old do not produce for the Chinese government. They just use up sources/food. Something went wrong in the Chinese lab and they had a very bad accident and the virus was release/by accident.. Just what if...
Sorry but there's no mystery or conspiracy here. Scientists have been warning about this coming for years, in detail.
From 2013 and on:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24750897
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20392050
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-43155827

But sadly we live in a reactive system (late stage capitalism) run by business people who don't want to speculatively spend money on things in advance. They are only interested in short term profit.

There's no market for warehouses stocking reserves of ventilators and masks or for "about $1.5bn to discover all the viruses in mammals. I think that would be a great investment because once you have done it, you can develop vaccines and get ready with test kits to find the first stage of emergence and stop it."
The mechanism is just not there in this system.


« Reply #167 on: March 25, 2020, 07:00 »
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It is not applied capitalism or socialism failure, either utopic movements rise.

It is human greed and being out of focus to what is important, that explain everything.

A football player or a Kardashian post costs more
than a painting a book or a doctors payment.
Look up Microstock, Insta, Ylutube. Oversupply, right?

Who does agriculture? Social voluntary work? Look up elders?

Stupidity, low level social education, ego rise and fricking greed.

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« Reply #168 on: March 25, 2020, 10:40 »
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The thread and subject has officially:



Gone from discussing the actual issues and the world pandemic to hate messages, accusations, and wild conspiracy theories.

No more from me.

« Reply #169 on: March 25, 2020, 10:53 »
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Well, here goes an important information about Coronavirus and a potential explanation on why people suffering from hypertension are being hit more seriously.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200323101354.htm

It appears that some medications are making easier for the virus to attach to the lungs, result in infection and pneumonia. the drugs in question are ramipril (brand name: Altace), captopril (Capoten), enalapril (Vasotec), fosinopril (Monopril), lisinopril (Prinivil, Zestril) and quinapril (Accupril).

People taking these drugs must not stop taking them, but must be extra careful regarding coronavirus. At least until tests point that they don't have a relation with cooronavirus afterall.

« Reply #170 on: March 25, 2020, 11:36 »
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Follow the money...

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« Reply #171 on: March 25, 2020, 12:12 »
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The thread and subject has officially:



Gone from discussing the actual issues and the world pandemic to hate messages, accusations, and wild conspiracy theories.

No more from me.


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The first one who mentioned that it was a Chinese virus was you. So the subject of rats from Baltimore, LA very modern, Canada very modern, Europe of the extreme left everyone, long live the American flag and the barbecue, ....... and all the lies of the President are in the thread, until the topic is refocused.

As long as there is no talk of racism and hatred, the thread will be fine. As always this forum is characterized. When Minds .com or 8Chan's join, then we will get serious about fighting racism again.

I close my mouth, without rancor. But I don't promise to always be silent, as soon as I smell the extreme right racist touch, I'll be back.

« Reply #172 on: March 26, 2020, 15:35 »
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you can thank American #fakenews media for Trump's slow reaction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKq8UYYQTYA&

You can thank Donald Trump for Trump's slow reaction... he's the biggest source of fake news on the planet! Sorry, but if it's come out of his mouth, then it's more likely to be false than it is true.

When a Trump stopped flights from China, Biden made it clear that the move was racist and xenophobic. Thats all you need to know about how Biden would have addressed the crisis. Would we now 10x or 100x the number of deaths. A scary thought.

no way near as scary as having a bigoted, ignorant narcisist in 'charge'

if Biden were in charge we would still have a fully staffed NIH, CDC and FEMA, ready to handle a pandemic
 
if Biden were in charge he would not have disbanded the working group Obama specifically set up to handle pandemics

if Biden were in charge we would have re-acted to the Wuhan outbreak by increasing supplies and testing, just in case

if Biden were in charge he would not 'invoke' the Defense Production Act as window dressing, but would actually USE the Act to compel production of needed medical supplies

if Biden were in charge  he would not have spent months denying the pandemic existed, and THEN claim he was the first and only one to have predicted the pandemic

if Biden were in charge he would not have ignored the recommendations of a war-game-style simulation*** of a pandemic conducted in summer 2019

for extra credit - guess who did NONE of these things?

===============
*** "A simulation called Crimson Contagion, organized by a Trump-appointed assistant secretary at the Department of Health and Human Services from January to August in 2019, envisioned a respiratory virus beginning in China and infecting 110 million Americans, hospitalizing 7.7 million and killing 586,000. At least a dozen agencies, and another dozen states, were involved in the war-game-style exercise. A draft of the secret after-action report from October, first published Thursday by the New York Times, emphasized challenges related to coordination and highlighted friction between HHS and the Federal Emergency Management Agency." WA Post

« Reply #173 on: March 26, 2020, 21:29 »
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The NY Times asks for a plan, from the president who won the presidential election. I think the plan is to infect you en masse in synagogues, mosques, churches, soccer fields. For there to be elections in November, it may be the only solution. All USA infected at the same time. The heroes fallen in this war are buried by the fatherland.



The plan is on the table. My question is, those who have no respect for anything or anyone and listen to the flu and open that Fox channel on Easter will be convicted of crimes against the population if it is shown that out of interest, they are giving disinformation to the citizen, knowing that it is false, because the scientific community does not speak the same as these media stars suddenly delighted with the innovative ideas of politicians.


The team of scientists, non-hairdressers and those experts, scientists and doctors and of course the air, land and sea armies, and Trump, must give the state of national quarantine the news on Saturday afternoons.



In other words, Fox knows it is doing it wrong and the people are stupid? or Fox is a victim of ignorance. Or simply, we are exaggerating and a handful of cadavers will not stop the great USA. you are making history, the big one. Now the fault is with Europe too.


From Europe, we say Trump, open the country whenever you want, make the high wall on the planet, do what you want, it seems that the people support you. As The Atlantic says, it is the president who must direct this crisis of flu, twitter, tambourine, and rumors behind the curtains. I am still in love with the American people and lands, despite my ex-partner and some others.

One thing is difficulties, and another thing is this, this that you are living now, where the TV media is used to tell the governors to do something, and that the hospitals have all the means. What country. It is entertaining. Governors do not want politics, they want material.

Today, more than ever, you are already very late. Maybe exposing all of you at Easter is a good solution at this point. You are in shape, with hospitals for the wealthy and millionaires. I would put the whole country on the street in Easter. perhaps within the sadness, at least it is of the same blow for the whole country. one cries, and to dance slow music with the POTU.


Can you imagine a country in the world, where citizens do not believe in the news? Also, freedom of expression. How do I convince my ex-girlfriend that my ideas are based on real information, not on systematic manipulation of bots, trolls, hate, and infiltrated agents from various countries. My information is bad, I believe everything about the movies, and she tells me that if they do not win Trump, they will burn cities for a hidden camera video.


People believe it, that is the problem, which for many makes us laugh, it seems like a horoscope section, it stops being funny, because people think it is a true. And now, whoever stays at home ..... a coward. It is simply something incredible. The level of collective self-suggestion collective autosuggestion* in going to the divine god, compulsive liar, must be studied in the universities.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2020, 21:40 by Tenebroso »

« Reply #174 on: March 26, 2020, 22:05 »
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I forgot, it is spoken, in bankruptcy statistics in percentages, in relation to medical bills. Logically, an illness will put on the table the solidarity of everyone's health, as an important value of the nation, not the barbecue, the security of being sick and everyone having the right to be a society with the hope of life according to developed countries in 2020. The bill of Uncle Andres, the grandmother, the grandfather, ..... it seems that it is not a country for the poor, USA.


I almost prefer to die than pay those bills so that MULTINATIONALS can buy islands to pass the pandemics. What is the excuse, the abuse of some people? well the more expensive health care abuse on the planet is better. For what? What I don't understand is, how someone wants to jump the fence. The sensible thing is to jump the fence to the other side. at least you live more calmly, without those frights of every morning of decisions done with the conversation of the last expert hairdresser.



EDIT

It is completely false that he is blamed for everything in order to defeat him in the elections. This year there will be no elections. But it is the same, when the elections are held, the American people will not blame it for everything, only for what they consider to be mismanagement of one of the greatest tragedies of humanity. Of course, it seems that the people can decide and comment on their management, it would be interesting if they did something, if possible this year for their people. And if he does not know, what is normal, since it is sanitary, not political, that he asks for help.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2020, 22:26 by Tenebroso »


 

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