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« on: March 27, 2006, 06:30 »
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What do you use to oraganize and keyword your images??


« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2006, 08:26 »
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i've started using iMatch from about 3 weeks....it's very powerful!!!

« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2006, 09:17 »
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Imatch for me as well.  Quite powerful.. but i only use probably 1% of what it can do. It would be nice to learn more.

« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2006, 10:02 »
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I keep track of title, discription and keywords as well as what has been submitted and where on excel.  How do you keep track of what has been submitted and where and whether it has been accepted or not.  I assume Imatch doesn't do this??

excel is fine with 100 images (ranging from 40% to 100% acceptance) but I can see it gettingout of control.  I also keep track of earnings and DL and various other performance measures on another tab.  I am only into my first month so pointers would be helpful.

title, discription and keywords is also added in pixvue so it automatically uploads.

« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2006, 11:41 »
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What do you use to oraganize and keyword your images??

I currently use IMatch, but I have been testing idImager. idImager has version management and some other nice features, but IMatch is still a lot faster and more stable.

I don't use keywords. I use categories. I feel that it is a lot faster for workflow. IMO, there are too many issues with keywords: mispelling, using words inconsistently, having to take the extra time to type them in, etc.

If I need keywords for a specific image, I enter them into the IPTC fields. For example, when I am about to upload an image to one of the microstocks, I will enter keywords just before the upload. This way it will autopopulate the Title, Description, and Keywords (on most sites at least).

« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2006, 11:46 »
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How do you keep track of what has been submitted and where and whether it has been accepted or not. I assume Imatch doesn't do this??

Actually, IMatch can handle a lot of this. I use the category system to track a lot of this. I have created categories for Possible Submission (for an image that I am thinking about submitting), Pending, Accepted, and Rejected. Under each of these categories, I have created subcategories for each microsite that I am registered with. For example:

Pending:
iStockphoto
Shutterstock
Dreamstime
Fotolia
123RF

I will then move the photo from Possible Submission to Pending, and then to Accepted or Rejected.

excel is fine with 100 images (ranging from 40% to 100% acceptance) but I can see it gettingout of control. I also keep track of earnings and DL and various other performance measures on another tab. I am only into my first month so pointers would be helpful.

I also use Excel to track the dates for when a photo is submitted and then either accepted/rejected. But I believe that you can do this in IMatch as well by created what are called custom Properties. I might give this a try in the next week or so.

« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2006, 12:10 »
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I also use Excel to track the dates for when a photo is submitted and then either accepted/rejected.  But I believe that you can do this in IMatch as well by created what are called custom Properties.  I might give this a try in the next week or so.


let us know if you find a way to do it with iMatch.... i'm very interested in it! ;) thanks!

« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2006, 04:01 »
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[...] idImager has version management [...]

uh..sorry for the stupid question, but what is version management? a way to archive different version of the same image?

« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2006, 04:05 »
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i think that is right??.. but would be interested in hearing what someone has to say about it that uses it.???

« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2006, 04:25 »
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it could be very useful!
I can archive the original raw and every converted/edited jpg easily!

but I don't know how it can work!

« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2006, 04:38 »
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yeah, that is what I do.

I have the original raw, and then the tiff if I edited the image, and then a jpg, all of the same file, of all my pics (the edited ones anyhow)
If i make different versions of the file, i start naming them filename-1.tiff filename-2.tiff and so on.

« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2006, 07:00 »
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I'm using a spreadsheet (in open office, Excel is a dirty word..)

I keep a column for each site and have status in there, P for pending X for reject etc..  have some hidden columns that give me stats to show reject ratios etc..  I also keep the title, description and keywords in there for each image.

On uploading I copy'n'paste the details to the relevent site as I've not had (up until now) an IPTC editor, although Istock dosn't seem to recognise exifer tags.

Works for me, but a small portfolio, and only occasionally uploading.  If I were busier with this endevour I'd probably have to get more organised and either find a tool or create a custom database to do the job, and possibly strip stats from the individual sites somehow.

« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2006, 07:03 »
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I have had a look at Imatch website and the program costs $59.  Money well spent?

http://www.photools.com/

Isn't photoshop Elements 4 an image management program as well?  Has anyone used this.  Does it allow you to input keywords etc (PE2 doesn't).

« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2006, 08:07 »
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I am pretty sure that photoshop elements does not have an image management program within it.

An image management program is one that can keep track of all your folders, keywords images, have catagories, search the folders in 1000 different ways, search according to color, time.. anything... and a billion other fuctions I have no idea what they do.

Photoshop CS2 isn't a image management program, it is just an editing program.  Adobe bridge (what ships with photoshop cs2) isn't an image management program either really, just a bit of a photo browser.

« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2006, 08:14 »
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This is what the website says. I think it is a new feature for PE4 but not sure how good it is:

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Find and view photos the way you wantEasily find and view your photos
Choose from a variety of organizing options, including keyword tags, which categorize your photos by favorite people, places, or events. You can instantly view every photo you've ever taken of Amy, for example, simply by clicking on her tag.

See all your photos in one place
View your photos in one convenient location whether they're stored on your hard drive or on CD automatically organized by date.

Find photos from a special day
Flip through photos taken on a special day using the convenient Date View. Browse by day, week, month, or year.

View photos by time period
View photos taken over a specific time period by clicking the intuitive Timeline.

Find every face
Instantly find all of your photos that contain faces so you can tag photos of friends and family for easy sorting.

edit: found more on the site:

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Quickly find any photo
Find photos from a special day
Flip through photos taken on a special day using the convenient Date View. Browse by day, week, month, or year.

Search by metadata
Quickly find and preview any photo, no matter where it's stored, with expanded metadata search parameters, including f-stop, digital camera model, and exposure values.

Pinpoint your search
Complex searches are quick and easy with the power of keyword tags. Instantly find photos that show only Jack, but not Jack and Jill, for instance.

Search by usage
Find photos you've used in a slide show, sent as photo mail, put on a greeting card or calendar creation, or used any other way.

Search for similar photos
Automatically find photos that share common characteristics, such as color, shape, pattern, or composition.

Since currently I am using PE2, I though if I could upgrade to get both new features of photshop plus photo management, then it would be a one stop solution.

« Last Edit: March 28, 2006, 08:18 by CJPhoto »

« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2006, 08:34 »
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we'll I'll be :)

it would be interesting to hear from someone who has used it.. how good it is.
Adobe also has a sort of image management system that is free for download if you have apple (they havn't released the pc version yet) .. but i forget what it is calle :(

« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2006, 08:36 »
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ahh here it is

Adobe Lightroom


« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2006, 11:31 »
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[...] idImager has version management [...]

uh..sorry for the stupid question, but what is version management? a way to archive different version of the same image?

Version management means different things to different people, but here is the description for what idImager's versioning does:

"Versioning is another unique feature of idImager. The program can keep track of all versions that you create for a single image. This way you create virtual image stacks. The catalogue will only contain a single entry of the image, while you can access other versions directly from the main version. When you browse your storage media and find an image, it may or may not be the main version but idImager can show you at any time which is the main version and which are the other known registered versions. You can add versions manually or use the integrated Version Detection Wizard. This wizard allows you to scan folders on your hard drive for images that are most likely versions. This way it is very easy to find and identify your versions without the risk of missing one."


 

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