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« on: December 31, 2008, 13:36 »
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Now updated Looking forward to some proper download numbers in 2009  ;D

SS 43.9% WM08#
DT 19.1% 2WM08
FT 12.0% WM08

123 7.4% *
BS  6.1%
StockXpert 5.3%

IS 4.0% @
CanStockPhoto 1.2%
FP 0.9%

# actually more earnings than Dec 2007 despite having only 75% of the DLs of Dec 2007
* better than November
@ the downward spiral continues

overall worst month of 2008  :'(

final breakdown for the year 2008 same order at the top though the middle section is shuffled. Curious to see will IS bounce back next year

SS 44.7%
DT 16.9%
FT 11.1%

StockXpert 6.6%
IS 6.5%
BS  6.3%
123 5.9%

FP 1.6%
CanStockPhoto 0.2%
« Last Edit: January 01, 2009, 04:10 by fintastique »


« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2008, 13:45 »
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SS 40,25% (-12,59%)
IS 17,11% (-1,60%)
FT 18,97% (+9,98%)
DT 11,02% (-0,04%)
StockXpert 3.81% (+0,99%)
BigStock 0,00% (-2,69%)
123RF 8,46 (+6,09%)
CC 0,00%
CS 0,38% (0,13%)

Overall: -9,99 %
RPI: -24,81 %


« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2008, 16:12 »
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Almost the same result as in November but different agencies contributed to overall result:
Code: [Select]
Dec Dec/Nov
SS 58.37% 105.23%
123RF 20.96% 248.47% BME
DT 5.51% 62.40%
FT 5.26% 615.09% BME
StockXpert 3.87% 37.50%
SV 1.94% 200.00%
IS 1.94% 73.67%
YM 1.34%
CS 0.54% 80.00%
BS 0.27% 50.00%
100.00% 104.35%

StockXpert died in the middle of the month while FT got surprisingly good result in comparison to previous months.  Most low earners keep it low and IS joined them this month.

« Last Edit: December 31, 2008, 16:31 by melastmohican »

« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2009, 03:22 »
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All figures compared to December 2007.

SS 34%, up 1%
DT 24%, up 61%
FT 14%, up 56%
IS 13%, down 48%
BS 5%, up 17%
StockXpert 3%, down 60%
123 3%, down 4%
Yay 2%, no sales last year
Cre 1%, up 20%
Scanstock 1%, down 60%

Total down 4% since last year, down 39% since November.

These are the most dramatic changes I've seen so far in my microstock career. I'm obviously very happy about DT. FT is a puzzle, since my sales are increasing at a healthy rate, while my FT ranking is going down. StockXpert is pure disaster, and IS is almost as bad. The numbers from SS hide the fact that volume is down 25%. They are saved by on demand sales.

2009 will be interesting indeed. It's becoming obvious that there are no untouchables in this business, and staying with only a couple of big agencies is probably very risky.

Update, year in total, 2008 and 2007:

SS 35% - 40%
IS 17% - 18%
DT 16% - 16%
FT 11% - 8%
StockXpert 7% - 6%
BS 5% - 4%
123 3% - 3%
Scan 2% - 1%
CS 1% - 1%
FP 1% - 1%
Cre 1% - 1%
SV 1% - 0%

Sales increase from 2007 to 2008: 26%
« Last Edit: January 01, 2009, 09:55 by epixx »

saniphoto

« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2009, 04:39 »
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All figures compared to December 2007.

Total down 4% since last year, down 39% since November.

These are the most dramatic changes I've seen so far in my microstock career. I'm obviously very happy about DT. FT is a puzzle, since my sales are increasing at a healthy rate, while my FT ranking is going down. StockXpert is pure disaster, and IS is almost as bad. The numbers from SS hide the fact that volume is down 25%. They are saved by on demand sales.

2009 will be interesting indeed. It's becoming obvious that there are no untouchables in this business, and staying with only a couple of big agencies is probably very risky.

Hi Epixx

Just to make you notice a thing about the FT ranking: if you go down means just that somebody other is selling more than you, nothing more. That is a good sign, if you are saying that FT is growing for you. It tells you that FT is very healthy and continue to grow. In fact for us is n.1 site now. SS is down for a lot of people because of the huge expansion on new photographers and images.
DT is steady and slowly growing and probably in this year will overcame SS for us.

I don't agree completely with your last statement. Risky is every kind of business, any. Then, to have a dozen of agencies and lose a lot of time to upload, categorize and follow, doesn't make too much sense to me. I think is better to have three top agencies (what are working better for you) and care well about them. This is in fact my aim of 2009, because the 90% of our income is given by the three agencies (in order of earnings): FT, SS and DT.

This is just another opinion/perspective, of course. But from my almost 3 years experience in microstock I believe the better course is to stick with the winners. and let go the others. 

happy new year to all.

« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2009, 05:51 »
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Saniphoto,
In that case, the growth at FT must be incredible. I'm growing around 50% compared to last year, and still I'm apparently growing less than the average.

As for winners and losers: 3 years is nothing. I expect to be active in this business for another 20 years (started around 3 years ago as well), and with the fluctuations I've seen through this year, anything can happen within that period of time.

Just to draw a couple of parallels: remember Alta Vista? Netscape? Have you used them lately? No? Neither have I, but ten years ago, that was the way I accessed the internet, more or less 100%. Ten years ago, nobody had heard about Google.

Things change on the internet. Technology changes, ownership changes. An investor with more money than brains can destroy any microstock agency within a year, and a genius with the right ideas can build a concept from scratch to world wide coverage even faster.  Three years ago, I hadn't heard about Dreamstime and Shutterstock. Now, they pay my rent. Good, isn't it?

« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2009, 06:05 »
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Here are my numbers  for December - had a BME due to FT's change in credit pricing.
FT 66.0%  (up, and almost 500% up from Dec 07)
IS  8.5%    (WMOTY, down compared to Dec 07)
SS 18.9%  (up, up compared to Dec 07)
DT 6.6%    (down, up compared to Dec 07)

Year total:
FT  45.8%
IS  25.3%
SS 20.4%
DT 8.4%

saniphoto

« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2009, 07:30 »
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Saniphoto,
In that case, the growth at FT must be incredible. I'm growing around 50% compared to last year, and still I'm apparently growing less than the average.

As for winners and losers: 3 years is nothing. I expect to be active in this business for another 20 years (started around 3 years ago as well), and with the fluctuations I've seen through this year, anything can happen within that period of time.

Just to draw a couple of parallels: remember Alta Vista? Netscape? Have you used them lately? No? Neither have I, but ten years ago, that was the way I accessed the internet, more or less 100%. Ten years ago, nobody had heard about Google.

Things change on the internet. Technology changes, ownership changes. An investor with more money than brains can destroy any microstock agency within a year, and a genius with the right ideas can build a concept from scratch to world wide coverage even faster.  Three years ago, I hadn't heard about Dreamstime and Shutterstock. Now, they pay my rent. Good, isn't it?

Hi Epixx

Yes, FT is growing at astounding pace and I can tell you if they were also a little better in communication/dealing with their supplier (we)
they would be the absolute number one for everybody, but nobody is perfect!  :)

You are right about what you say about Netscape-Altavista and fas changes in internet era. Technology can change things very fast, yes. I know 3 years is nothing (also if I must say you that A LOT of things changed in just this short time frame!), but the experience of this period give me at least a guidance of how I should better invest my time.  I was meaning that to submit to agencies that are bringing me so little (less than 10% of my total income) is a waste of time. Call it how you want, for me is a form of strategy for efficiency, just that.

I believe also that in 20 years things will change. Is a sure thing. In fact is very probable that there will not be any stock agency as we know them now, at that time! Even photography could be already another thing, seeing the development of 3D photography, holographic technology... not to mention the huge change that will come in robotic and computer speed and power, in few years...
I prefer to stick to the next five year, beyond that is hard to predict what there will be!  ;)

I think anyway we share the common goal to make the best in this activity (because it is what we do for living!) and
we are dedicated to it. Just with slightly different strategies, probably.

regards,
Val.

« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2009, 09:57 »
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Val,
Yes, we probably mostly agree, and there's always an aspect of gambling baked into this whatever we do.


Jorgen

« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2009, 14:14 »
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SS   39%, +28% vs. November, 2008
iS    15%, -41%
DT  12%,   -4%
Ft   11%, -32%
SX    9%, -25%
BS    8%,    -1%
123   3%, +6%
Cr     1%, -37%

vs. November, 2008: -10%
vs. December, 2007: +21%

« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2009, 14:24 »
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Happy new Year  :)

Very Bad numbers for Dec  :( :(

comp Nov
SS  - 20% (-50% from Nov WME)
IS  - 26% (+50% 2nd BME)
DT  - 17% (+25% BME)
FOT - 7% (same)
StockXpert - 6% (- 40%)
123 - 4% (same)
Big  - 2,5% (-50%)

others - 13%

Steady upgrade for DT month by month

« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2009, 14:46 »
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exactly the same earnings in December as in November:

SS - 51.0%
IS -  22.7%
DT -  9.3%
FT -  5.6%
....
a more detailed December report:
http://microstock.pixelsaway.com/microstock-photography-earnings-december-2008/

I am moving my monthly earnings reports to a separate blog:
Pixels Away microstock

« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2009, 15:14 »
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Site                - %income/dec   - %income/08       - %change/nov
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Shutterstock        - 33%           - 31%              - 27%
Dreamstime          - 24%           - 18%              - 33% Best Month Ever
StockXpert          - 9%            - 15%              - 5%
Istockphoto         - 8%            - 12%              - 11%
Fotolia             - 8%            - 11%              - 11%
Crestock            - 7%            - 5%               - 14%
Bigstockphoto       - 6%            - 5%               - 8%
123RF               - 5%            - 3%               - 183%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Overall             - 100%          - 100%             - 19%


Comments & Explanations:

- Enhanced license at Shutterstock helped it beat November.
- Dreamstime is closing in on Shutterstock to become my top earner. I wouldn't be surprised if this happens in Q1 2009. I really like DT and hope the trend continues.
- Istock up slightly over november, but down like 60% over december 2007.
- Even though I can't get anything new accepted to Crestock, the stuff that is already accepted has been selling more often.
- 123RF was so horrible last month that the 183% increase this month is still disappointing.
- Snapvillage, Canstockphoto, Featurepics..... not even worth mentioning. Less than .5% combined so I just left them off. I no longer upload to any of them.

KB

« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2009, 17:17 »
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IS - 36% (30% in Nov), BME
SS - 27% (26% in Nov)
DT - 12% (12% in Nov), BME
FT - 12% (12% in Nov), (BME due to an extended license, otherwise it was a somewhat so-so month)
StockXpert - 6% (12% in Nov)
BigStock - 4% (4% in Nov)
123 - 2% (4% in Nov)

Funny how so many contribute to the same sites, yet we all have such varying results.

lisafx

« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2009, 18:12 »
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For me December was significantly off November with an overall drop of 20%

IS    32%     -8%
SS   19%    -15%
FOT 19%    -35%
DT   14%     -8%
StockXpert   7%     -44%
BigStock   5%     -11%
123   4%     +35%
Crest  1%    -17%

Here's the Year End totals:

IS   35%
SS   17%
FOT 17%
DT   12%
StockXpert   8%
123   6%
BigStock   5%
Crest 1%

The above numbers are deceptive because of the relative amounts involved, but suffice to say the increase on 123 did not begin to compensate for the losses on the top four sites...

Lets hope things pick up quite a bit in January. Gotta pay for that lovely 5DII Santa brought :)
« Last Edit: January 01, 2009, 18:15 by lisafx »

« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2009, 07:53 »
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Dec. 08
IS  32%
DT  22%
SS  19%
FT  8%
StockXpert  8%
123RF 6% (BME)
BigStock  5%

Total for Year (starting March 08)
IS  36%
DT  21%
SS  20%
FT  10%
StockXpert  5%
BigStock  4%
123RF 4%
« Last Edit: January 02, 2009, 18:45 by epantha »

« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2009, 08:05 »
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2nd worst month of the year, looking forward to January to get more dl's !
All the stats on my blog : http://microstockexperiment.blogspot.com/
All the best

L


« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2009, 13:13 »
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2008 Year:

 IS   39.6%
 SS  35.4%
 DT  16.7%
 FT    3.1%
StockXpert   2.3%
123   1.5%
 FP    1.2%

« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2009, 13:21 »
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I think the posts in this thread show that the "earnings rating" poll results shown on the right side of the page don't actually correlate to real people's information.

« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2009, 13:44 »
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I think the posts in this thread show that the "earnings rating" poll results shown on the right side of the page don't actually correlate to real people's information.

Great point. I think there's definitely a lot of variance - especially in the rankings for each individual. Having said that, the big 6/7 tend to be largely the same for most people.

« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2009, 15:14 »
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I think the posts in this thread show that the "earnings rating" poll results shown on the right side of the page don't actually correlate to real people's information.

Yes, I've noticed this for a long time, but it's very exaggerated this month. Though the poll puts IS in fifth place (and dropping), 9 of 13 respondants so far place IS as first or second in earnings this month. Hunh? What's up with that?
« Last Edit: January 02, 2009, 19:19 by sharply_done »

« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2009, 18:35 »
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I wonder how many people vote at the poll (I don't) but don't post here.

I'll collect my data later.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2009, 18:34 »
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I finally had some time to finish up my numbers.  December wasn't too bad.  It certainly wasn't a BME, and it did exceed my running monthly average.

The December breakdown:

StockXpert                23.18% BME
IS                 22.11%
FT                 17.06% BME
DT                 11.85%
SS                  8.93% WME
123                 7.78%
BigStock                 5.25%
CS                  2.47% BME
CanStockPhoto                 0.80%   
SV                  0.56%   
FP, Yay, SR, CC, MP 0.00%   


Here's how 2008 broke down.  I don't have any 2007 numbers to compare it to, as I started doing microstock in January 2008.

IS    29.31%
SS    24.02%
DT    13.47%
StockXpert    9.79%
FT     9.55%
123    5.78%
BigStock    4.40%
SV     1.57%
CS     1.14%
CanStockPhoto    0.44%
FP     0.31%
Yay    0.15%
SR     0.06%



« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2009, 19:53 »
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earnings for december -29% compared to november

IS 34%
SS 28%
DT 20%
FT 5%
123 4%
StockXpert 5%
BS 4%

Fotolia doesn't seem to work for me.

avava

« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2009, 23:17 »
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 Hi All

 I Just want to say that the new age of digital player is so dialed in. I am one of the few old guys in stock that tracks his numbers in Macro stock business but when I look at these color coded lists and percentage breakdowns WOW!. This is definitely a new revolution. I think it rocks. This is just one of the things you are all bringing to stock, real analysis that you are not afraid to share. Bravo.


AVAVA


 

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