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Title: do you sell eps vector and raster jpg as 2 files?
Post by: mtkang on September 06, 2010, 01:58
Hi all,

Do you sell eps vector and raster jpg as 2 files? i know there are different practice in every websites..would like to know how you do it.
even thought some website generate jpg of vector file for sale, but I notice some search engine will filter out vector format if buyer only search illustration, instead of vectors.

shutterstock, usually it is encourage to upload as eps vector and jpg as 2 separated files, since the vector files will not be sold as raster image.

istock, a vector format is available for raster image so there is no reason to sell as another raster jpg file.

fotolia, I notice that if you search on 'illustrations', the vector image won't be in the results, it seems upload another raster jpg will improve the sale?

dreamstime? i am not sure how the search engine know is it illustration of photos.. it seems the search engine won't know which is  photos or which is illustrations.

any website will rejected raster jpg sold as another file?
Title: Re: do you sell eps vector and raster jpg as 2 files?
Post by: Microbius on September 06, 2010, 04:58
I was under the impression that SS was pretty much the only site where you were allowed to upload them as separate files, as most of the others let you chose whether to buy a jpeg or vector version from the same image.
Title: Re: do you sell eps vector and raster jpg as 2 files?
Post by: mtkang on September 06, 2010, 05:12
but i notice in fotolia, if you search with 'illustration' filter on, your vector file won't not appear in the search results, unless the buyer tick 'vector'. In this case, even the vector file had raster jpg for sale, if won't be the search result under 'illustration' are ticked.

I was under the impression that SS was pretty much the only site where you were allowed to upload them as separate files, as most of the others let you chose whether to buy a jpeg or vector version from the same image.
Title: Re: do you sell eps vector and raster jpg as 2 files?
Post by: cidepix on September 06, 2010, 05:39
but i notice in fotolia, if you search with 'illustration' filter on, your vector file won't not appear in the search results, unless the buyer tick 'vector'. In this case, even the vector file had raster jpg for sale, if won't be the search result under 'illustration' are ticked.

I was under the impression that SS was pretty much the only site where you were allowed to upload them as separate files, as most of the others let you chose whether to buy a jpeg or vector version from the same image.

I mentioned this in fotolia forum loooong time ago.. Good luck with your effort.. I no longer have the will to let them know about their faulty search engine that doesn't show vectors as illustrations.. Like vectors are not illustrations.. And no, you can't submit JPEG versions.. They will refuse it..
Title: Re: do you sell eps vector and raster jpg as 2 files?
Post by: mtkang on September 06, 2010, 06:19
oic.. so i am not the only one to think it is bad logic.

however, i wonder are most of the buyers look for a jpg or a eps vector?

i uploaded all my illustration as vector in fotolia, i am not sure the sales difference if i upload as raster jpg.

do you think most buyer will search as 'illustration' ticked instead of 'vector'? 

but i notice in fotolia, if you search with 'illustration' filter on, your vector file won't not appear in the search results, unless the buyer tick 'vector'. In this case, even the vector file had raster jpg for sale, if won't be the search result under 'illustration' are ticked.

I was under the impression that SS was pretty much the only site where you were allowed to upload them as separate files, as most of the others let you chose whether to buy a jpeg or vector version from the same image.

I mentioned this in fotolia forum loooong time ago.. Good luck with your effort.. I no longer have the will to let them know about their faulty search engine that doesn't show vectors as illustrations.. Like vectors are not illustrations.. And no, you can't submit JPEG versions.. They will refuse it..
Title: Re: do you sell eps vector and raster jpg as 2 files?
Post by: ThomasAmby on September 06, 2010, 06:27
I usually submit just the EPS at Shutterstock. Some weeks ago for the first time ever I uploaded raster versions of 10 of my best selling files, and they hardly sell. Not going to bother with rasters from now on.
Title: Re: do you sell eps vector and raster jpg as 2 files?
Post by: michaeldb on September 06, 2010, 14:03
dreamstime? i am not sure how the search engine know is it illustration of photos.. it seems the search engine won't know which is  photos or which is illustrations.
In the beginning at DT, there was a problem with buyers who presumed that all images were photos downloading vectors and being upset (this happened to a buyer of one of my vectors ). DT then required that all illustrations, vectors and 3D renders, have the keyword 'illustration'.

I guess this is still the official policy. I put 'illustration' in all my illustrations' keyword lists.

One problem I notice is that some photographers include the keyword 'illustration' in photos which are in no way illustrations, but then there is a lot of keyword spamming on DT. The 'flagging' was supposed to help this but I don't think it has.
Title: Re: do you sell eps vector and raster jpg as 2 files?
Post by: mtkang on September 07, 2010, 00:03
hi thomas, i think it is good to upload another raster image in shutterstock, i have raster image from vector that sell too, even vector version are always better sale.

I usually submit just the EPS at Shutterstock. Some weeks ago for the first time ever I uploaded raster versions of 10 of my best selling files, and they hardly sell. Not going to bother with rasters from now on.
Title: Re: do you sell eps vector and raster jpg as 2 files?
Post by: mtkang on September 07, 2010, 00:06
I think dreamstime is having less problem since if you put categories as illustration and it will appear in search results.

I am quite surprised my 'vector' are not appearing under fotolia search results if one click 'illustration' instead of 'vector'.

dreamstime? i am not sure how the search engine know is it illustration of photos.. it seems the search engine won't know which is  photos or which is illustrations.
In the beginning at DT, there was a problem with buyers who presumed that all images were photos downloading vectors and being upset (this happened to a buyer of one of my vectors ). DT then required that all illustrations, vectors and 3D renders, have the keyword 'illustration'.

I guess this is still the official policy. I put 'illustration' in all my illustrations' keyword lists.

One problem I notice is that some photographers include the keyword 'illustration' in photos which are in no way illustrations, but then there is a lot of keyword spamming on DT. The 'flagging' was supposed to help this but I don't think it has.
Title: Re: do you sell eps vector and raster jpg as 2 files?
Post by: michaeldb on September 07, 2010, 12:25
I think dreamstime is having less problem since if you put categories as illustration and it will appear in search results.
Yes, I forgot about that. You do have to choose one of the 3 Illustration categories.
Title: Re: do you sell eps vector and raster jpg as 2 files?
Post by: GraphicGravy on November 10, 2010, 00:52
I've found that for the same file, the VECTOR version outsells the plain raster version by far. I stopped uploading the raster versions b/c they hardly sold at all. Less hassle, same amount of money.