Hi, as a travel photographer I have just come across a terrible update of copyright law being amended by EU Parliament just now. Now law should be ready in July... Under this update, amendatory clause no 421 to EU directive 2001/29/ES it would be forbidden to publish and sell images taken on public property without a consent of all owners or copyright holders of the properties. This would totally remove freedom of panorama in the whole EU and forbid us selling and publishing photos of architecture, landmarks, cities in Europe... This would probably ruin my microstock business. Thanks EU. Thanks again...

It is being discussed in EP and the change has a wide support... So, it is not included in the text yet. Well, I was looking for some information in English, for example here: http://www.communia-association.org/2015/04/15/reda-report-the-10-worst-and-the-5-best-amendments/
or here
http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2015/06/european-parliament-committee-adopts-controversial-pro-user-copyright-reform-report/
it is number 4... Author of this amendemnt is Jean-Marie Cavada...

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EU is the socialist utopia created by the banks, for the banks.

Errr ... isn't there a bit of a disconnect here? Last time I looked the banks were pushing capitalism for all it's worth.

Quote from: Nikovsk on June 18, 2015, 03:36

EU is the socialist utopia created by the banks, for the banks.

Errr ... isn't there a bit of a disconnect here? Last time I looked the banks were pushing capitalism for all it's worth.

When major international banks go broke in a free market capitalism, there are no bailouts. They would go bankrupt. Read about the quantitative easing policy being done in US/UK/EU/Japan. Anyone with a good understanding in economy knows it simply devalues the currency, creates inflation and skyrocket the stock market, creating wealth for the top 0,1% and not improving the general economy. That's not capitalism, that's state controlled economy.

The banks finance all the mainstream political parties, so it doesn't matter who wins, politicians are always tied up. The few anti-EU/pro-Europe exceptions are effectively bombarded against in the media. Elections nowadays are a major distraction so people think they actually have a choice, while unelected eurocrats like Juncker decide the (catastrophic) future of Europe.

We have to worry. If no discussion, this will pass. I shared links with some journalists.
Added hashtag on twitter #savepanoramafreedom

When major international banks go broke in a free market capitalism, there are no bailouts. They would go bankrupt. Read about the quantitative easing policy being done in US/UK/EU/Japan. Anyone with a good understanding in economy knows it simply devalues the currency, creates inflation and skyrocket the stock market, creating wealth for the top 0,1% and not improving the general economy. That's not capitalism, that's state controlled economy.

The banks finance all the mainstream political parties, so it doesn't matter who wins, politicians are always tied up. The few anti-EU/pro-Europe exceptions are effectively bombarded against in the media. Elections nowadays are a major distraction so people think they actually have a choice, while unelected eurocrats like Juncker decide the (catastrophic) future of Europe.

agree 100% !

but actually the big banks have been all bailed out, only a few small fish went bankrupt, with the notorious excuse that they were too big to fail.

nowhere in the world there is true capitalism as far as i've seen in my travels, it's always a mix and if we talk about europe it's a horrible case of "social democracy" that looks more and more like a revamp of the old USSR if we talk about burocracy and planned economy.

So every documentarist,news, and camera crew in the world will then need to carry a truckload of paperwork to do a 360 pan at a public place?
And what does your country's constitution say about this?
I've come to realize that EU as an institution can legislate freely,but it all comes down to every indivudual countrys copyright laws.

The day we will lose that priviledge (if we ever do) ,trust me,we wont be bothered about selling photos.The context of this decision will bring far bigger issues regarding personal freedoms to just bother with selling photos and video.

No, its about  commercial use, not for editorial use

And how exactly will that work?There has to be a total constitunional reform and again each country has its own laws and political agenda.
Gotta love these European beaureocrats.Their greed and neo feudal wet dreams that theyre trying to impose can only be matched with their stupidity and incompetense.

Quote from: Lizard on June 18, 2015, 09:52

Quote from: Difydave on June 18, 2015, 06:13

All I can say is that I'm British, and the sooner we are out of this silly, self serving, extra layer of unnecessary bureaucracy the happier I will be.
"Unsustainable" is a word that is often bandied around here.
That's what the EU is.

Well they broke constitutional laws and changed referendum rules just for a single case and pulled Croatia in this artificial union ruled by people who have never been elected by nobody and calling them self democratic. Doing all that with their corrupted puppets who would sell their mothers if they could.

I hope this breaks into peaces sooner the better.

What makes me laugh, is when we kick politicians out here because we don't want them, they bob back up with their cheery buddies in the European Parliament.
As you say, who are these people elected by?

The most important thing is that there is not a single democratic tool available to peoples that can remove members of the European commission from their places, not a single one. They are getting installed by their buddies replaced by them and its all just a theater powered by corporate interests. And when you dig deeper the saddest part is that the places and positions are inherited from their family members from the past that have started the project in the first place. 

Interesting - this night my site was attacked. After i published about this projects of law? Same hand

All I can say is that I'm British, and the sooner we are out of this silly, self serving, extra layer of unnecessary bureaucracy the happier I will be.
"Unsustainable" is a word that is often bandied around here.
That's what the EU is.

Yeh, on the other hand do not forget the primary purpose of the EU - which is peace among the member countries. What was unimanigable for hundreds of years was made possible by the establishing EU (or its predecessors). If one of the strongest EU countries leaves and the other follow, wouldn't there be a possibility of future wars again? I say lets reform and simplify this beast but keep it as tool which helps and not tries to rule us...

Yeh, on the other hand do not forget the primary purpose of the EU - which is peace among the member countries. What was unimanigable for hundreds of years was made possible by the establishing EU (or its predecessors). If one of the strongest EU countries leaves and the other follow, wouldn't there be a possibility of future wars again? I say lets reform and simplify this beast but keep it as tool which helps and not tries to rule us...

there are no wars in western europe because we've been imposed a "pax americana" in the US occupied territories after 1945, nobody is allowed to move a finger without the agreement of the US and NATO but once there's a common interest they're pretty quick in sending their warplanes ... see Yugoslavia, Lybia, Sirya, Kosovo, and now Ukraine .. ohh i forgot they're also running another color revolution in Macedonia now while the mainstream medias arent even covering the news.