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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2015, 12:20 »
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@cobalt -  tnx for replay

i don't want to confuse costumers, but on one models have big smile and on the other just a little smile .. .. i think that costumers are not the same on Getty and on Shutterstock

but, that is moral dilema.. my question is it legal to send other photo?


« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2015, 13:17 »
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Ask their support . On getty itself it is not possible.

« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2015, 17:41 »
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I think you can just add keywords to this search.

The eyeem collection is perfect as an example of unscripted/amateurish/overfiltered/instagram content. The crazy, ugly and all the overfiltering are a real bonus, making the content authentic. Artifacts are for smartphonestock, what film is for retrostock. It anchors the file in time.

But how can you predict what will sell among all this madness? I cant, so I just upload what is fun for me and enjoy any sales I get. But the majority of files only sell once, so I have no plans to organise a shoot just for eyeem. I really wouldnt know what would sell, it is really unpredictable.

However, I absolutely love browsing there, I have become totally addicted to the app and I am always experimenting with stackables and filter effects from other apps.

It is really very relaxing and the diversity and completley unscripted real world reality of the images is truly liberating after more than 10 years of stock photography.

I hope they are successful with their own marketplace, they do a great job at community building. The place is just never ever boring.

And finally I have an agency that I can recommend to all the friends and family who want to also "make money with pictures" but are completely overwhelmed with normal agencies and the professional requirements for stock. But eyeem can be joined by anyone, no special skills needed, just point your phone, take the picture and off it goes.

As you can see, I am a fan ;)

It is nice to have a place like this, in addition to all the regular stock agencies. Just browse, relax and play. Just dont expect too much and go with the flow.

I enjoy EyeEm as well. At the moment, I tend to be using it more than any other app for mobile images, as well as posting some older images taken with point and shoot cameras "filtered up", which might not pass muster on other stock sites.  The web upload functionality makes it much faster to upload than some of their competitors.  I'm also using their new image recognition software through the web uploader and, I have to say, I am finding it pretty impressive.  I have used it on some other sites and its been pretty useless (and more time consuming to then unlike irrelevant keywords).  The EyeEm software isn't perfect but its pretty accurate most of the time.

My only hesitation in uploading more (or better quality images) is that, because it started as a photo-sharing site initially, large previews of the images are easily downloadable from your profile page.  I wish that you had the option to add a watermark to images selected for the Marketplace. 

« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2015, 18:11 »
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The missing watermark is one of the reasons I am not yet doing shootings for eyeem and I upload, what I can risk losing. I wish they would add a beautiful watermark to the images that are for sale.

However, i think most people look at eyeem via the app, and there you dont need the watermark imo.

Still waiting for my first sale from their marketplace, i have now been with them for a year and never had one, only from getty.

It is fun though. :)

« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2015, 14:52 »
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Thanks Cobalt for the motivation to submit on eyeem. i have been experimenting the last few days. Many images are selected for the Getty collection, old point and shoot and dslr images not good enough technically for classical stock agencies but that I really liked, real smartphone snapshots that capture a moment.  I'll see if something sales, but in any case it's very fun to play with filters, it is somewhat liberating to focus on emotions and composition rather than technical perfection and supposed commercial quality, with very fast editing and keywording. It'll be a good break from classical stock from time to time I think, a good reminder than photography should also be about fun.

« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2015, 11:20 »
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I have uploaded a few to Eyeem to test the water but I am not sure how the reviewing works. I know that the reviewing for Getty takes a few weeks and that they ask if you want your image at Getty but how does it work for Eyeem itself? How do I see if my images are for sale? When I click on my images it doesn't say it's for sale but maybe that's because I see the image from my own account. Do they give you info if your images are for sale or when they are rejected? I tried to go to the Marketplace but that link doesn't work. Anyone cares to tell me how it works?


I've had photos approved for Getty within days, myself. Usually, within no more than a week of uploading to the market.

Gary

« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2015, 11:24 »
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Have you been accepted as a contributing photographier? If not then you only see the community functions of the app.

Write to their support if you have questions.

Eyeem is not fotolia, you have to apply or be invited into their marketplace.

If you have a series and some files are accepted as exclusive, i doubt you can send the others elsewhere.

Again, ask their support, but do really want to confuse the customers?


Not exactly, Cobalt. As soon as I joined EyeEm, I began exclusively posting directly to the market. In fact, using the app for iPad, you can do that right away. There is a switch to select whether you want a post to go to the market or not and I've always set it to Market, from the very first post I ever made. Why not?

Gary
« Last Edit: October 22, 2015, 11:27 by GaryR62 »

« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2015, 11:30 »
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By the way, anyone know why email notifications of new posts don't seem to be working, here? I have never received one at all.

Gary

« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2015, 11:30 »
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Thats good news, it wasn't possible when I asked for an invite last year. But at that time their marketplace wasn't open.

So now anyone can join without applying.

« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2015, 05:06 »
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I have uploaded a few to Eyeem to test the water but I am not sure how the reviewing works. I know that the reviewing for Getty takes a few weeks and that they ask if you want your image at Getty but how does it work for Eyeem itself? How do I see if my images are for sale? When I click on my images it doesn't say it's for sale but maybe that's because I see the image from my own account. Do they give you info if your images are for sale or when they are rejected? I tried to go to the Marketplace but that link doesn't work. Anyone cares to tell me how it works?
I've had photos approved for Getty within days, myself. Usually, within no more than a week of uploading to the market.

Gary

"Approved for Getty" in the sense of EyeEm suggesting it to the Getty collection? Yes, that should typically happen within a few days of uploading it ot the market.

That's not the same as seeing those images appear on the Getty site however. Images go to keywording first and then are being reviewed again on the Getty side. There is no guarantee that images selected for the Getty collection are being published on Getty in the end, and it takes a few weeks (maybe up to two months) before the images are being seen on the Getty sites.

« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2015, 16:44 »
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Meh - I've been trying for two days to upload my content.. of the frist batch of 50 - only 14 made it, that was after two attempts. Also keywording and captioning is not carried over..

What a crock.  >:(

« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2015, 00:59 »
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Meh - I've been trying for two days to upload my content.. of the frist batch of 50 - only 14 made it, that was after two attempts. Also keywording and captioning is not carried over..

What a crock.  >:(

You can't/shouldn't treat it as an agency because it actually isn't one. The main purpose of the platform is an online & mobile sharing community. It wasn't designed to ingest many images at once. They just introduced a desktop upload tool this week, probably a lot of people tried it out at once, and initial bugs/problems are to be expected as with any new feature.

Also, there was (actually is) no classic keywording. EyeEm uses an "album" system where people can share images into public galleries (instead of the hashtags Instagram is using). So any "keyword" you add is actually an album in the system.

« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2015, 01:01 »
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Meh - I've been trying for two days to upload my content.. of the frist batch of 50 - only 14 made it, that was after two attempts. Also keywording and captioning is not carried over..

What a crock.  >:(

You can't/shouldn't treat it as an agency because it actually isn't one. The main purpose of the platform is an online & mobile sharing community. It wasn't designed to ingest many images at once. They just introduced a desktop upload tool this week, probably a lot of people tried it out at once, and initial bugs/problems are to be expected as with any new feature.

Also, there was (actually is) no classic keywording. EyeEm uses an "album" system where people can share images into public galleries (instead of the hashtags Instagram is using). So any "keyword" you add is actually an album in the system.

Ahhh.. OK then - well fair enough... Thanks for the heads up :)

« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2015, 07:55 »
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No more exclusivity ?!?
Copy from email correspondence...


ME: One question.. If I have two similar photos, on one models have big smile on other just little smile. One is accepted on Getty via EyeEm. Can I send other on other stock sites?

Eyyem: Thanks for your reply. We had a recent update to our Getty agreements. Any images that you add to the Getty Collection that are considered royalty free are non-exclusive and can be used and sold in other places and platforms.

Me: I'm sorry but can you repeat that.
Because where ever I look (on site, help, faq, etc) it say photos on Eyeem x Getty are exclusive?

Eyeem: Thank you for your email. We are in the process of updating site to say these terms about the non-exclusive agreement, however the agreement with Getty is already in place and your any images that you approve for the Getty collection that are considered Royalty Free can be sold and used anywhere else.



I'm confused  ???


« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2015, 01:15 »
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It looks to me that they have changed their policy, but have no yet updated their website.

You can submit RF EyeEm/Getty images to other sites too. I'm very happy about that because I have a few images on Getty via EyeEm now, so I'll upload to the other agencies.

« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2015, 05:17 »
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What does this mean for our royalties?

In principle this is a good thing, because it means I can send content that is non exclusive to eyeem.

« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2015, 12:10 »
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What I'm seeing at eyeem is a bunch of really big, unwatermarked images selling for just $20. What's the motivation to actually buy them?

I know from my direct contributions to getty that the majority of the sales will be from their premium access customers and will result in mostly pennies to the contributor.

For those contributing to eyeem, am I missing something?


« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2015, 17:35 »
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No more exclusivity ?!?
Copy from email correspondence...


ME: One question.. If I have two similar photos, on one models have big smile on other just little smile. One is accepted on Getty via EyeEm. Can I send other on other stock sites?

Eyyem: Thanks for your reply. We had a recent update to our Getty agreements. Any images that you add to the Getty Collection that are considered royalty free are non-exclusive and can be used and sold in other places and platforms.

Me: I'm sorry but can you repeat that.
Because where ever I look (on site, help, faq, etc) it say photos on Eyeem x Getty are exclusive?

Eyeem: Thank you for your email. We are in the process of updating site to say these terms about the non-exclusive agreement, however the agreement with Getty is already in place and your any images that you approve for the Getty collection that are considered Royalty Free can be sold and used anywhere else.



I'm confused  ???

I just wrote to EyeEm support about the exclusivity question and this was there reply:

"Thanks for getting in touch with us. We're happy to help you out here. Currently, per our distribution agreements images are exclusive to Getty Images, however images that you put up on EyeEm Market only are non-exclusive and can be used elsewhere. "

This is reply is in line with what is said on their site regarding exclusivity. If the image is accepted by getty then it is considered exclusive.

UPDATE: I just got another email telling me basically that the deal isn't done and as of right now all images distributed through eyeem by getty are considered exclusive.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2015, 18:20 by stockmn »

« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2015, 18:51 »
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whats the deal with eyeem not reading meta data?

« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2015, 06:02 »
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whats the deal with eyeem not reading meta data?

I have found the same to be true with all mobile platforms (Snapwire, Twenty20, Foap). It's a bit annoying. But I guess all of them don't want to make it too easy to distribute your images too far.  :P

In addition, EyeEm is mainly not an agency but a community site. It doesn't really know "description" and "keywords", it allows for geotags and "albums" instead. I was hoping the new desktop upload would read out IPTC data but apparently that doesn't work either.  ???

« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2015, 06:36 »
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thanks for the reply, re-tagging thousands of images is not really an option for me, efforts need to be minimal just like the royalties

AlexRvan

« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2015, 11:04 »
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Any more news on the exclusivity thing with Getty?
I've also been told by support about a month ago that "There is no exclusivity agreement for either EyeEm Market or Getty Images, so feel free to sell it on your own site".
Yet they still state in the agreement that "The photos in this Collection are under an exclusive distribution license. This means that they can only be sold and distributed via Getty Images and EyeEm Market".

« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2015, 12:04 »
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Thats what support told me:

"I do apologize for that confusion there. My team has given me the latest, which is that since new agreements are not yet available on documents, images will remain exclusive to Getty. Again, sincerest apologies for that miscommunication there as this has been a recent update. Until further notice, please refer to the distribution agreements available on your Market Dashboard and consider images exclusive to Getty."

« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2016, 15:01 »
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Anyone making regular sales here.
A friend made one sale for $25 through Getty but that's about it?

AlexRvan

« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2016, 17:54 »
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I also made a few sales and I really like the platform. Problem is about exclusivity, support tells me (for the 4th time) that there's no more exclusivity with Getty, although their distribution agreement says otherwise.
I'm sure I would have more sales if I could send my non-exclusive files to Getty, but I can't do that until they change the agreement.


 

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