Author Topic: Facebook gags industry article on Shutterstock shutdown (Read 9360 times)

Shelma1 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 21, 2020, 11:55 »

Quote from: Chichikov on June 21, 2020, 07:38

Quote from: Shelma1 on June 21, 2020, 05:18
Quote from: Chichikov on June 21, 2020, 03:39
I posted it on Facebook using https://bitly.com (link shortener)
You have no preview of the article, but the link is accepted and clickable.

https://bit.ly/2zQPPKf

I tried using bitly, and as long as I simply posted the link it was fine. But who’ll read an article if just a bitly link appears? So I commented that Facebook was censoring the article...and suddenly I’m unable to post it. I repeatedly get a message that “something went wrong. We’re working to fix it as fast as we can.” This is some bullshite.

Did you click on this link?
https://bit.ly/2zQPPKf
What happens?
Then you can put the title you want in your facebook post.

I see. You have a bitly link to the article about the Facebook ban of the original article, and we’re trying to post links to the original article that was banned. Two different things.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #26 on:** June 21, 2020, 13:50 »

Not surprising, but you can't post a link to the Inside Imaging article on Instagram either (I tried this morning).

The general "problem" message didn't explain, but I was able to post the same text and a link to the Coalition press release without a problem.

I'd suggest posting links to the Coalition press release with text explaining Facebook's totally inexplicable & unjustified ban.

The explanation we received from the Facebook employee who doesn't work in that department, but was trying to explain that Facebook wasn't "evil" as the public & media think it is

goes something like this

Mentioning "boycott" was the trigger and it was probably an automated process that took the link down - except that the word boycott isn't anywhere in the article

Once the article has been flagged (and removed from everywhere that linked to it), only the person who originally posted the link can "protest" the ban and request a review. So I have no idea who the original poster was, and regardless of how much information I might have about how wrong and unjustified the "ban" is, I can't do anything to formally appeal to Facebook.

Seems to me that in addition to doing diddly squat to deal with serious problems they have on their site with hate speech and misinformation, Facebook has set up a "star chamber" to allow large companies to silence critics.

And I'm sure the more money you spend on Facebook ads, the more your opinion counts.

They really are tossers.

noodle · « **Reply #27 on:** June 21, 2020, 13:58 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on June 21, 2020, 09:40

I’m pretty sure I figured out who reported the article to Facebook. We have an active Shutterstock contributor spying on Facebook and in here, which no doubt is why the bitly posts were also removed. I don’t want to say who publicly because I don’t want to accuse someone without being 100% sure.

This the troll who has over 25K snapshots in his port?
What a loser

Shelma1 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 21, 2020, 14:03 »

Quote from: noodle on June 21, 2020, 13:58

Quote from: Shelma1 on June 21, 2020, 09:40
I’m pretty sure I figured out who reported the article to Facebook. We have an active Shutterstock contributor spying on Facebook and in here, which no doubt is why the bitly posts were also removed. I don’t want to say who publicly because I don’t want to accuse someone without being 100% sure.

This the troll who has over 25K snapshots in his port?
What a loser

I don’t know who you mean, and I don’t really want to say anything specific because it’s just a strong suspicion on my part. I’m sure there are multiple people watching what we do.

cascoly · « **Reply #29 on:** June 21, 2020, 16:38 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on June 21, 2020, 11:55

Quote from: Chichikov on June 21, 2020, 07:38

Did you click on this link?
https://bit.ly/2zQPPKf
What happens?
Then you can put the title you want in your facebook post.

I see. You have a bitly link to the article about the Facebook ban of the original article, and we’re trying to post links to the original article that was banned. Two different things.

when i click on the link i get the original article

noodle · « **Reply #30 on:** June 21, 2020, 16:40 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on June 21, 2020, 14:03

Quote from: noodle on June 21, 2020, 13:58
Quote from: Shelma1 on June 21, 2020, 09:40
I’m pretty sure I figured out who reported the article to Facebook. We have an active Shutterstock contributor spying on Facebook and in here, which no doubt is why the bitly posts were also removed. I don’t want to say who publicly because I don’t want to accuse someone without being 100% sure.

This the troll who has over 25K snapshots in his port?
What a loser

I don’t know who you mean, and I don’t really want to say anything specific because it’s just a strong suspicion on my part. I’m sure there are multiple people watching what we do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV3QgDq2TGw

Lizard · « **Reply #31 on:** June 21, 2020, 19:06 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on June 21, 2020, 13:50

Not surprising, but you can't post a link to the Inside Imaging article on Instagram either (I tried this morning).

The general "problem" message didn't explain, but I was able to post the same text and a link to the Coalition press release without a problem.

I'd suggest posting links to the Coalition press release with text explaining Facebook's totally inexplicable & unjustified ban.

The explanation we received from the Facebook employee who doesn't work in that department, but was trying to explain that Facebook wasn't "evil" as the public & media think it is goes something like this

Mentioning "boycott" was the trigger and it was probably an automated process that took the link down - except that the word boycott isn't anywhere in the article

Once the article has been flagged (and removed from everywhere that linked to it), only the person who originally posted the link can "protest" the ban and request a review. So I have no idea who the original poster was, and regardless of how much information I might have about how wrong and unjustified the "ban" is, I can't do anything to formally appeal to Facebook.

Seems to me that in addition to doing diddly squat to deal with serious problems they have on their site with hate speech and misinformation, Facebook has set up a "star chamber" to allow large companies to silence critics.

And I'm sure the more money you spend on Facebook ads, the more your opinion counts.

They really are tossers.

The link states content is flagged abusive. I know for fact FB will disable content if enough people flag it so thats also what might have happened.

What do you think about playing their game then ?

1) We have the numbers, so we are in advantage in flagging and it works both ways so their content is not flag proof.

2) Then we write a nice little article which doesn't violate anything and use FB paid marketing to promote it aiming at their buyers. Targeting those who liked SS we are targeting nice amount of their buyers but also contributors reach is not worthless. And its extremely cheap and effective way to hit where it hurts. If each would donate just 1 dollar we would have few grands. If they flag it we just run the add from next page. There are cca 5000 people in that group with FB accounts.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #32 on:** June 22, 2020, 07:34 »

Quote from: Chichikov on June 21, 2020, 03:39

I posted it on Facebook using https://bitly.com (link shortener)
You have no preview of the article, but the link is accepted and clickable.

https://bit.ly/2zQPPKf

Didn’t work for me when I tried the other day. I got the spam message.

Chichikov · « **Reply #33 on:** June 23, 2020, 00:57 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on June 22, 2020, 07:34

Quote from: Chichikov on June 21, 2020, 03:39
I posted it on Facebook using https://bitly.com (link shortener)
You have no preview of the article, but the link is accepted and clickable.

https://bit.ly/2zQPPKf

Didn’t work for me when I tried the other day. I got the spam message.

On my page the links are still active, and I'm not getting any spam messages.
I don't understand why it works with some users and not with others.