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« on: April 15, 2019, 19:14 »
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Hello everyone!!!  We are incredibly excited to announce the launch of the FilmHERO marketplace.   We feature:

✔ 12,000+ 4K+ Clips
✔ Unlimited Clip Downloads
✔ 100% Royalty Free
✔ Exclusively Shot on RED in 4K+
✔ New footage added weekly

UNLIMITED downloads of our entire 12,000 clip archive is ONLY $29 per month. 
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For a limited time, we are also offering an additional 15% off promo to celebrate our launch.  This brings the monthly subscription down to $24.50.  For promotional pricing, use coupon code LAUNCH15 at checkout.


Please feel free to reach out with any feedback or questions.  Cheers!!
- FilmHERO Team
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2019, 19:49 »
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This smells like something Ive smelled before

A race to the bottom aided by sites such as yours

« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2019, 20:00 »
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This smells like something Ive smelled before

A race to the bottom aided by sites such as yours


We are sorry you feel that way!! 

The goal if FilmHERO is to provide epic stock footage for all.  Every single clip in our curated collection is 100% Royalty Free, includes unlimited usage, and has been shot exclusively on RED Cinema Cameras. 

We are also excited to adding robust 8K clip options as soon as next month!  8K will be included, at no additional charge, with every subscription.  :)

« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2019, 20:33 »
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We are sorry you feel that way!!

I doubt you are.  You know where you posted right?  This is a community of creators who value their work and who arent going to be too favorable towards unlimited downloads for $29 a month trying to undercut them..

« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2019, 23:14 »
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epic stock footage

"Epic" works for Youtube and social.

Here, as far as I understand Stock footage is curated, well executed, targeted, scripted, oriented to client demands and many other things that I still don't know as a newbie.

But for sure it ain't no fricking "epic".

:P

« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2019, 00:39 »
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Indeed a very bad site
Stock becomes cheaper and cheaper

Why not the same prices as Pond5 or Shutterstock?
« Last Edit: April 16, 2019, 00:43 by whosvegas »

« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2019, 01:09 »
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I dont find who is author of this clips? Just you or two or three more?

Thank you

« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2019, 03:14 »
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I dont find who is author of this clips? Just you or two or three more?

Thank you
I guess it is a copycat :)

« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2019, 06:16 »
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Oh good another site I can make a youtube video on to warn artist to stay away! This is total crap and I would advise you not post here! We have no interest or desire to promote your business.

« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2019, 07:07 »
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79 dollars for these 10 clips.

Quality is excellent. But it comes from a really good team.

https://www.filmhero.com/packs/er

I don't quite get the math. Did they pull their content from everywhere else?

Pond5 has similar pricing in their membership offer, people often forget that.

Is there really enough high volume sales to make this work??

I always thought the video buyer market was small. That is why the traditional micro model doesn't really work in video.

But they seem to believe it exists. I have a lot of respect for David and his team, but  I am just really not convinced this is a generally workable model for video. If everyone does it, it will mean 30 cent downloads for video.

Getty is already selling clips ultracheap, I get 68 cents for the files I have there. But I am not seeing 10 000 downloads a piece.

I have also done a lot of price experiments on pond5, including offering good content (well, good for me) at very low prices for a few months, but although I did see a pick up in volume, it wasn't that impressive. So I still offer low quality test shots or outtakes cheap, I don't do it for the normal stuff.

While I am sure that for a while they will see tremendous growth at these prices, the question is - when will they hit the wall??

Because for those of us who have ridden the microprice/high volume train...we know how it goes...the wall is coming.

And all those new 8k files, wouldn't it make more sense to add them to pond5 exclusively? And only when they stop selling in enough volume, take them down and add them to your own sales channel?

I could maybe understand if this was a portfolio for mostly older clips, that have earned their share in the general industry. Retire them on your own site, mix enough new content in-between to keep people happy. It would still be an incredible offer.

Anyway, we will see how it works out.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2019, 07:28 by cobalt »

« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2019, 07:44 »
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I don't care how good the work is, I have no respect for any company racing to the bottom for video pricing!

« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2019, 08:25 »
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The micro price/high volume model worked exceptionally well or me for many years. I made over 200k on the side with at the time maybe 3000 photos.

But many of these images sold thousands of times.

If the volume is high enough, the micro model can work really well.

Selling a file 500 times for one dollar gives me the same as selling it once for 500.

Plus - the micro model was extremly sustainable, highly predictable monthly income.

Also made it much easier to predict returns, so you could calculate really well how much to invest in your production.


But I have never seen high volume sales in video.

For me it is not a morality issue, a photo or video is not morally superior with a higher price tag.

In fact I have made thousands of dollars from very mundane, low quality shoots. But it was what the buyer really needed. Looking for these niches is something I spend a lot of time on.

I have met David and think he has a good working brain.

So I am trying to understand their business model with fairness.

Maybe they can consider to still supply high quality content at other prices elsewhere, not just pond5 exclusive, but all the sites that have premium collections.

Think of it as building up some kind of longterm life insurance.

Because the wall is coming and having a mix of macro and micro income gives better stability.

Just my 2 cents.

eta: 12000 files is a drop in the ocean, this is not a 10 million file agency. And obviously they will attract a lot of custom work as well.

Many artists have a webshop with their own files at low prices.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2019, 08:31 by cobalt »

« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2019, 08:33 »
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Actually it's really quite simple.

They are trying to steal/get market share by super low pricing from agencies that charge 3x+ for a single clip. Envato & motionarray pay authors $0.30-$1/clip, so why not them is what they are thinking. And instead of it going to a bunch of people, it goes directly to them. In the ukraine (guessing that is where they are from), $2/$3/hour is 'good' money - so if they get $10k/month, they are happy.

The micro price/high volume model worked exceptionally well or me for many years. I made over 200k on the side with at the time maybe 3000 photos.

But many of these images sold thousands of times.

If the volume is high enough, the micro model can work really well.

Selling a file 500 times for one dollar gives me the same as selling it once for 500.

Plus - the micro model was extremly sustainable, highly predictable monthly income.

Also made it much easier to predict returns, so you could calculate really well how much to invest in your production.


But I have never seen high volume sales in video.

For me it is not a morality issue, a photo or video is not morally superior with a higher price tag.

In fact I have made thousands of dollars from very mundane, low quality shoots. But it was what the buyer really needed. Looking for these niches is something I spend a lot of time on.

I have met David and am grateful for what I learned that day.

So I am trying to understand their business model with fairness.

Maybe they can consider to still supply high quality content at other prices elsewhere, not just pond5 exclusive, but all the sites that have premium collections.

Think of it as building up some kind of longterm life insurance.

Because the wall is coming and having a mix of macro and micro income gives better stability.

Just my 2 cents.

eta: 12000 files is a drop in the ocean, this is not a 10 million file agency. And obviously they will attract a lot of custom work as well.

Many artists have a webshop with their own files at low prices.

« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2019, 08:37 »
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David Baumber lives in the US. In the UK before. Established British producer. I sincerly doubt they can work on 10k a month.

But of course stock could just be side income.

Still, for that kind of quality how do you bring  in production costs?

But...their business...they have been around long enough.

« Last Edit: April 16, 2019, 08:42 by cobalt »

« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2019, 08:42 »
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All businesses rely on knowledge.  Very few businesses will drop $uber dollars on an idea without some level of confidence.  Remember Videoblocks?

If an individual with a large portfolio can garner 10,000 customers then that not pennies.  David owns the stock, he can sell it for what he likes. Feed the family etc. while other agencies cut our earnings.

« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2019, 08:48 »
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300 000 a month, yes that is a workable number.

At 29 a month it is probably cheap enough for many people to consider adding them in addition to any other download plan they have elsewhere.

So, it will work for them.

« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2019, 09:19 »
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Selling a file 500 times for one dollar gives me the same as selling it once for 500.

Plus - the micro model was extremly sustainable, highly predictable monthly income.



You are joking right? Micro was never sustainable just by its very design. Short term gold rush perhaps, but sustainable?


« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2019, 09:32 »
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For many,many years I was making 2000_4000 dollars a month, even without uploading a lot of content, because I had a day job and later worked as inspector and moderator on istock.

I also had macrostock income from Gettyhouse, so it wasnt all micro.

And when I left istock/Getty, I only uploaded around 1000 photos, in many places a lot less. Obviously my income dropped, but I was getting around 500-1200 dollars from everywhere while I slowly added video and now have around 800 clips of varying quality.

So for not being a day job and doing it on the side, even today I find stock very interesting.

Many of my files are really old, but if I upload them to a new place they still sell.

However, it really takes me a lot of effort to decide what should go macro and what should go micro. Or what should go to a specialized agency.

But I absolutely think stock is worthwhile, including selling for micro prices.

From what I see though, a lot of people put content on high volume sites, that are absolutely not going to sell in high volume. They just follow the spray and pray mode.

Then you cant be disappointed, if it doesnt work.

The very easy days may be over, but personally I am very confident and this will be the first year, where I can add more volume everywhere including micro.

Everywhere I look there is a ton of content missing. People simply dont spend time researching client needs.

Portfolios are very resilient, they dont die abruptly, at least mine didnt.




« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2019, 09:39 »
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FilmZERO - 12,000+ 4K Clips, $0 per Month

« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2019, 13:05 »
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Hello,

I'll come out from under my rock if you promise not to pelt me with Rice Crispie.

Yes I'm responsible. I started FilmHERO.com 2 years ago.  It started as an idea with my partner in crime Helen Fields. We wanted to become more independent. The idea grew and evolved from there as the industry changed over that time.  I'm not an agency that's supporting other artists.  We run an expensive business, as you all know, video is not cheap to produce and it's become unsustainable.

The cut that all agencies take from us leaves us too little to secure our futures.  We had to move into a different model with better control over our assets, that would be more effective going into the future. We're not the first. Others are already doing it - take a look at Storyblocks. Nothing we do is designed to impact anyone else, but this was the only business model that showed ongoing promise rather than slow decline, and believe me, we spent years studying it. Subscription is coming - the larger agencies are already discussing it - and when that happens the cut we get is likely to drop dramatically. So we invested . in ourselves, in our own site. We spent years working 12 hour days, saving money, busting ourselves to provide for our family.  Us sitting around moaning about the decline of the industry wasn't an option.  We're happy to answer any (polite) questions.
 
Thank you

David Baumber

« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2019, 13:17 »
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Hi David! Very brave of you to come out of hiding here. ;) Not the easiest crowd.

Anyway, you have a great portfolio, of course, and I know you as one of the very top (if not #1?) producers at Pond5. I thought you were going exclusive with them? Or is the FH site just for clips you haven't used before? Just curious about the P5 situation, and if something happened there.

Thanks!

« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2019, 13:43 »
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You're right, we are producing exclusive content for Pond5.  We'll be creating a mix of exclusive content for FilmHero and also Pond5.

« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2019, 13:50 »
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This makes no sense, yes it only profits you but i don't see Porsche selling at Toyota prices! In order to live from this which I do! Pond5 has the answer and they are paying a fair % Please watch my video on Storyblocks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyeQmy3BV70

« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2019, 14:02 »
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The answer. Use Pond5 Exclusive, market your work like you own the site! be creative produce new and better content and refuse to give it away. Buyers will come for quality work. I sell high priced work everyday!

« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2019, 18:17 »
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I understand the thinking.

It's an easy way to make some quick cash, because right now it is undercutting a lot of the large agencies, but putting you on par with envato/motionarray in terms of bottom basement prices.

The work does look pretty good - so in some ways you are really undervaluing it. You could charge more.

But, I understand the appeal of quick cash, and pricing it so incredibly low that you are bound to get a lot of signups providing you do your marketing right.

Hello,

I'll come out from under my rock if you promise not to pelt me with Rice Crispie.

Yes I'm responsible. I started FilmHERO.com 2 years ago.  It started as an idea with my partner in crime Helen Fields. We wanted to become more independent. The idea grew and evolved from there as the industry changed over that time.  I'm not an agency that's supporting other artists.  We run an expensive business, as you all know, video is not cheap to produce and it's become unsustainable.

The cut that all agencies take from us leaves us too little to secure our futures.  We had to move into a different model with better control over our assets, that would be more effective going into the future. We're not the first. Others are already doing it - take a look at Storyblocks. Nothing we do is designed to impact anyone else, but this was the only business model that showed ongoing promise rather than slow decline, and believe me, we spent years studying it. Subscription is coming - the larger agencies are already discussing it - and when that happens the cut we get is likely to drop dramatically. So we invested . in ourselves, in our own site. We spent years working 12 hour days, saving money, busting ourselves to provide for our family.  Us sitting around moaning about the decline of the industry wasn't an option.  We're happy to answer any (polite) questions.
 
Thank you

David Baumber


 

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