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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Stock Discussion => Topic started by: mantonino on April 13, 2008, 22:18
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I just finished scheduling a BUNCH of models for this coming week and thought I'd share where I got them all. The full post is on my blog (http://niltomil.com/2008/04/13/models-and-tfcd-shoots/) but I thought I'd post some of it here too. The "..." tells you where I cut down.
1) ModelMayhem - ....To find models in your area, click Browse, then choose your criteria. I always keep it as open as possible, sorting by “recent activity” so you know they’re still on MM actively...
2) Craigslist - ...We got the basic structure for (our ad) off of the LuckyOliver forums, adapted it to our needs, added some of our photos from stock shoots and we try to tell everyone straight up front what the shoot is going to be like so we don’t get a lot of rejected models...
3) Friends - ...The best tip I got was from (I think?) Andres Rodriguez who said he asks models at the end of a shoot if they know anyone who’d like to have some fun & do a similar shoot...
4) Anywhere - ...Try this - “Hi…uhm, I’m a professional photographer and I think you’d make an awesome model. I’m going to give you my card & let you check out my stuff online. Call me if you want to get together for a free shoot.” Then walk away. Make your site good enough that people actually call, too! ...
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Anyways, hope that helps someone - we are going to be ridiculously busy this week but I'm pretty far behind in an upload contest so I need to get working!
~m
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Like i said on another forum... good work will never put you out of business... :-)
I never need to promote myself.........
Patrick.
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I never need to promote myself.........
Do you think that the majority are in this position? My post was definitely aimed at someone with a lower level of experience than someone who is already shooting models every week. :) That's good though - that's where we should all get to.
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Not every week.. more like every day.. major income comes from portfolio shoots, assigments, stock is only a small part of income.
Patrick.
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Not every week.. more like every day.. major income comes from portfolio shoots, assigments, stock is only a small part of income.
Ok, shooting every day.
(Are you trying to impress me? Our photography business OUTSIDE of stock grossed $200k+ last year on weddings, portraits, portfolio shoots and real estate photography. I'm not easily impressed in photography - I've taught at the biggest wed & portrait convention (http://www.wppionline.com/tradeshow/show2007/speakers.taf?pgm=master) & was asked back. Doesn't matter, really. I'm just trying to help people find some models...)
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Not trying to impress you.. actually never take weddings anymore, christening etc... not because there is no money in it.. simply it doesn't challenge me.
For the rest i enjoy doing what i do... but stock is not my living, not even for more then a year already.
To succeed in stock you need to have a site that realy pushes your portfolio to the front day after day, thus depending on the one reviewer or site owner that likes you... no more, no less... an believe me... been a reviewer on a one of the big 5 for almost 3 years, i know what i've seen, i know how it works.
The one and only fair site out there is SS... every pictures needs to prove it's own success.. most other sites work with ranking systems that determines were your pictures is displayed in searches, how good it will do how many sales you will have.
Patrick.
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MM is my choice for finding new models as well.
I've not had much luck with approaching strangers and handing out my card :-[
I even used MM to find and shoot with a model while traveling overseas to SE Asia ;D
PS, I am in total awe of anyone that actually makes a living from Microstock.
It would need to be a full time job plus overtime for me to even come close to replacing my 'real job' income.
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hey mantonino,
thanks for the post and to share some tips.
I usually find models in the "anywhere" and "friend" ways ;), but I found modelmayhem pretty useful.
Best regards,
Diego
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Anyways, hope that helps someone
Why would you want to help someone build a portfolio to compete with you?
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Anyways, hope that helps someone
Why would you want to help someone build a portfolio to compete with you?
I thought that was why we were here....to help each other?
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Why would you want to help someone build a portfolio to compete with you?
I kind of thought that was the point of having MSG? Give help, get help, grow the people who are here? I didn't know it was just a place to complain, bitch & piss/moan about reviews or better, to wait for a few people to do so then jump em.
Why are you on this forum?
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I suspect Sean is here mostly to antagonise the Miz ;-)
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I've just joined model mayhem as an artist / model. god knows if it'll be any good but my photos are good
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I just finished scheduling a BUNCH of models for this coming week and thought I'd share where I got them all. The full post is on my blog ([url]http://niltomil.com/2008/04/13/models-and-tfcd-shoots/[/url]) but I thought I'd post some of it here too. The "..." tells you where I cut down.
1) ModelMayhem - ....To find models in your area, click Browse, then choose your criteria. I always keep it as open as possible, sorting by “recent activity” so you know they’re still on MM actively...
2) Craigslist - ...We got the basic structure for (our ad) off of the LuckyOliver forums, adapted it to our needs, added some of our photos from stock shoots and we try to tell everyone straight up front what the shoot is going to be like so we don’t get a lot of rejected models...
3) Friends - ...The best tip I got was from (I think?) Andres Rodriguez who said he asks models at the end of a shoot if they know anyone who’d like to have some fun & do a similar shoot...
4) Anywhere - ...Try this - “Hi…uhm, I’m a professional photographer and I think you’d make an awesome model. I’m going to give you my card & let you check out my stuff online. Call me if you want to get together for a free shoot.” Then walk away. Make your site good enough that people actually call, too! ...
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Anyways, hope that helps someone - we are going to be ridiculously busy this week but I'm pretty far behind in an upload contest so I need to get working!
~m
How much money do you pay the models?
What happens if the photos from the session for the stock image photos are used in something that the model does not like?
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Hopefully the OP has gained a couple more models and raised his prices a touch since his original post... in April 2008! ;D
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been a reviewer on a one of the big 5 for almost 3 years.... The one and only fair site out there is SS..
"Fair" and "SSTK" used on same sentence makes me wonder more doubts than certainties...
Anyway, don't get me wrong but why do you leave from reviewer job?
Were they fair enough to you to the point that make you leave? Or did you leave because you want to be more fair to yourself and found out that you could do better and more fair in any other place?
;)