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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2020, 18:10 »
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Just a tip for those who plan to sell based just on their search engine:

Lets say you are selling landscapes. If Im not mistaken their pages show 35 pages of results and about 70 or so images per page so only 2450 images altogether are shown in the search.
So, there are cca 2,5M images results for landscape of which 2 497 550 don't even show in the search.

Same goes even for long-tail keywords if the words are popular.

Basically if you want to sell there on constant basis you have to build your marketing system and actively promote your work or have a specialized niche with low competition. Sure, occasional sales are happening but most people who do really well there say that they spend way more time on promoting than on creating art.   







« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2020, 18:23 »
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Easy you put a watermark Big and a low res photo Besides when you upload something online you know someone will grab it At least low res files prevent the thiefs to use the image commercially which in that case they need the big size of the photo

« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2020, 18:26 »
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Im sorry But after   25 years Plus selling Online I would never....."EVER" recommend FAA to sell anything Original I created. The Place is filled with IE...Idiots who see a Lennon Photo taken Before they were Born...Run it through a stupid filter and sell it as their "ART" Im sorry. That is not their art. I tried with my work when they started then bailed Out right away.
Sites Like this are nothing but an embarrassment. One of many guys.
Build your own site and do the promotion work. Thats what it takes.
WWW.Rinderart.com I sell a whole Lot of stuff to be used in TV shows ETC.....and I have contracts ready to be signed. Will Smiths daughter was My last Customer. She Paid $400.00 for the use of a Image.

Suggest Most of you get you heads out of Penny stock. It's over.Sorry.And been Over quite awhile if this is your Profession.
maybe, Just maybe there better at this now. Build a site and Promote it.Still the best way. but, It's a job.
https://www.microstockgroup.com/product-resale-forum/my-fine-art-america-account-is-closed/

Maybe FAA is better now. don't know.....Don't care.


Sure, there are idiots everywhere but there are also a lot of great artists there who don't have anything to be embarrassed from. Same as on microstock sites and you still decided to sell there.

One of the things that makes FAA convenient is that you get your personal pixels.ccom site which is basically FAA store clone  which you can use as a store implemented in your personal website or by app on page, or via link to your pixels store where only your work is shown. Extremely useful especially for reducing shipping costs because they have like 10 or so print facilities around the world and they ship from buyers nearest location. Not even to mention that everything is automated so you don't have to do anything. Some say that their base print price is high, but comparing to small place where I live I save a lot even on that + shipping costs + time not invested on printing packing and + occasional sales from FAA main page trough search engine. So It works well for me.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2020, 10:09 »
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Is anyone having a problem uploading to Fine Arts America?  Also I am seeing missing letters all over the portfolio page.  Thanks.

Note: it's  Fine Art America  :)

Im sorry But after   25 years Plus selling Online I would never....."EVER" recommend FAA to sell anything Original I created. The Place is filled with IE...Idiots who see a Lennon Photo taken Before they were Born...Run it through a stupid filter and sell it as their "ART" Im sorry. That is not their art. I tried with my work when they started then bailed Out right away.
Sites Like this are nothing but an embarrassment. One of many guys.
Build your own site and do the promotion work. Thats what it takes. I sell a whole Lot of stuff to be used in TV shows ETC.....and I have contracts ready to be signed. Will Smiths daughter was My last Customer. She Paid $400.00 for the use of a Image.

Maybe FAA is better now. don't know.....Don't care.

How do I contact the people and sell to TV shows like you do?


Sure, there are idiots everywhere but there are also a lot of great artists there who don't have anything to be embarrassed from. Same as on microstock sites and you still decided to sell there.

One of the things that makes FAA convenient is that you get your personal pixels.ccom site which is basically FAA store clone  which you can use as a store implemented in your personal website or by app on page, or via link to your pixels store where only your work is shown. Extremely useful especially for reducing shipping costs because they have like 10 or so print facilities around the world and they ship from buyers nearest location. Not even to mention that everything is automated so you don't have to do anything. Some say that their base print price is high, but comparing to small place where I live I save a lot even on that + shipping costs + time not invested on printing packing and + occasional sales from FAA main page trough search engine. So It works well for me.

True, the site is what people make of it and the Pixels can be used on my own website, if I want to promote.

rinderart

« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2020, 11:09 »
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I sell Framed Prints.....For a Lot of Money. I want the best I can get. FAA does not do that. If it works for your customers?....Great. I Custom mount and frame My Prints also. I tested many, many Printers. I rated FAA a 4. I use "NASH EDITIONS" Graham Nash from Crosby,Stills and Nash His company is #1. My clients and where I show. demands the Best I can get.. Ya just want a fairly good Print. go to Costco. I need color matched Archival work and I need Proofing.I also do the signed archival matts and build My frames, I've been Printing My work over 50 Years........And BTW.....I just got a Large raise at SS.
Why? Don't know......Don't Care.
And what . does this mean. Microstock is Only one Outlet man. and Im doing stock  a Lot longer than SS has been around and Longer than the Internet.

"Same as on microstock sites and you still decided to sell there."
This Place is getting real Boring.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2020, 11:13 by rinderart »

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2020, 11:27 »
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I sell Framed Prints.....For a Lot of Money. I want the best I can get. FAA does not do that. If it works for your customers?....Great. I Custom mount and frame My Prints also. I tested many, many Printers. I rated FAA a 4. I use "NASH EDITIONS" Graham Nash from Crosby,Stills and Nash His company is #1. My clients and where I show. demands the Best I can get.. Ya just want a fairly good Print. go to Costco. I need color matched Archival work and I need Proofing.I also do the signed archival matts and build My frames, I've been Printing My work over 50 Years........And BTW.....I just got a Large raise at SS.
Why? Don't know......Don't Care.
And what . does this mean. Microstock is Only one Outlet man. and Im doing stock  a Lot longer than SS has been around and Longer than the Internet.

"Same as on microstock sites and you still decided to sell there."
This Place is getting real Boring.

FAA is not Microstock it's a Print on Demand site, and pixels makes mugs, blankets, shirts, cards and products. I have one of those "cool" canvas prints on my wall, free from Walgreens as a promotion. Nice, entertaining, looks nice, no frame. People like them, while I'm not a fan. But for free I have a nice waterfall photo in the living room.  8)

Nope they aren't color matched archival products, in expensive custom frames, but no one claims they are anything other than print on demand, easy distribution and an available outlet.

I wish I could understand what your point was in that?

« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2020, 13:43 »
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I sell Framed Prints.....For a Lot of Money. I want the best I can get.

So do I...and Im not complaining either.

If it works for your customers?....Great. I Custom mount and frame My Prints also.

It obviously does because they keep coming back.  FAA offers nice selection of 100+ pretty quality frames that buyers can select on the spot without need that I loose my time discussing that with them.

I tested many, many Printers. I rated FAA a 4. I use "NASH EDITIONS" Graham Nash from Crosby,Stills and Nash His company is #1. My clients and where I show. demands the Best I can get...Ya just want a fairly good Print. go to Costco.

As I focus on large prints where FAA can deliver 108" and as I see Nash Editions can do up to 60" that's a huge point for FAA which in my case nullifies slight difference in colors which most of the buyers wont even notice even if you point that out to them.

I need color matched Archival work and I need Proofing.I also do the signed archival matts and build My frames

I need a place with good quality products, low expenses in terms of material, printing, packing and shipping costs where I can showcase and sell my prints to buyers who are happy with my art to the level that they keep coming back and recommend my work to their friends. FAA does exactly that.

I've been Printing My work over 50 Years......


Good for you, I'm doing it for 20 and Im not planning to stop.   

And BTW.....I just got a Large raise at SS.
Why? Don't know......Don't Care.

And what . does this mean. Microstock is Only one Outlet man. and Im doing stock  a Lot longer than SS has been around and Longer than the Internet.


I agree, don't know....don't care. But if I have to guess, probably they don't want to get rid of the only living photographer who witnessed and is in possession of original negatives of the Big Bang or the moment Eve decided to take the apple from that snake.


"Same as on microstock sites and you still decided to sell there."
This Place is getting real Boring.

When you call out and insult other artist that they have to be embarrassed to sell among "idiots" on FAA and you should at least expect a remark on your SS work. I mean the man, the myth, the legend putting his work for sale at 10cents among amateur snapshots of smiley faces finger drawn in minced meat, something doesn't hold water. I mean I would expect such move from myself who don't care about color matched Archival work and and who doesn't  need Proofing or buildin my own frames...but from you, never.

The only thing boring here is when one reads your post about being there from stone age for the 3765234576889787. time as an argument in serious conversation.






rinderart

« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2020, 13:59 »
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OK...MSG account closed, Im done. be well.BTW. I don't get 10 cents.  got a raise today from SS.

« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2020, 14:14 »
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OK...MSG account closed, Im done. be well.BTW. I don't get 10 cents.  got a raise today from SS.

Im sorry things got a bit hot and that you decided to leave and I can just wish you the best.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2020, 14:26 »
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OK...MSG account closed, Im done. be well.BTW. I don't get 10 cents.  got a raise today from SS.

Im sorry things got a bit hot and that you decided to leave and I can just wish you the best.
He said last week that he was going to leave here very soon.

« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2020, 14:27 »
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OK...MSG account closed, Im done. be well.BTW. I don't get 10 cents.  got a raise today from SS.

Hell be back. And Ill be pleased. In the years Ive been in the group Ive learned more about b/w photography from Lauren Rinder (in posting asides, not in actively seeking his help) than anywhere else. In printing, framing and glazing your own images its a nightmare. European and the US postal services are incredibly resourceful in finding ways to shatter glass.

Photoshelter offers a selection of printers which works for me as one is close by, professional and takes the risk on things getting broken. I put some arty stuff on FAA and stuck a couple of other items on the end to fill my free quota. What sold? Yup, the stuff on the end. Including a duvet cover. That is how I want my kids to remember me: my dad took a picture so good people wanted to sleep with it.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2020, 14:43 by douglas »

« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2020, 10:07 »
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What's happened?

« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2020, 10:59 »
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What's happened?

If you mean to Lauren Rinder, he closed his account and left. He's been around microstock almost from the beginning, and is a very talented photographer, but is very impatient & volatile. Periodic blow-ups and walk-outs are part of the scenery.

If you were wondering if it was something you said, no worries :)

« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2020, 11:29 »
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Yeah don't worry about, he'll be back in a few days. Does this all the time on here and on SS

« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2020, 14:23 »
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  Hell be back. And Ill be pleased. In the years Ive been in the group Ive learned more about b/w photography from Lauren Rinder (in posting asides, not in actively seeking his help) than anywhere else.     

I agree. I just hope that physically hes ok. Hes always been kind to me. As for blowups, I totally get that. Ive seen lots of people over the years do the same. Sometimes people here just try your patience.

« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2020, 22:10 »
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Easy you put a watermark Big and a low res photo Besides when you upload something online you know someone will grab it At least low res files prevent the thiefs to use the image commercially which in that case they need the big size of the photo

huh? why would a thief be interested in then buying your image when there are so many hi res images to choose from?

worrying about theft is a waste of time - it'll happen and there's little you can do about it, other than crippling your site so it ticks off legitimate users (there are, of course, ways to disable the use of right click to download an image)

« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2020, 22:19 »
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One of the things that makes FAA convenient is that you get your personal pixels.ccom site which is basically FAA store clone  which you can use as a store implemented in your personal website or by app on page, or via link to your pixels store where only your work is shown. 

EXCEPT for the little fact that when  someone does a search on 'your' pixel site, the results come from the entire FAA collection, so any users you may attract are soon lured away


« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2020, 01:49 »
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wordplanet wrote:
#I'm in the US and sell mostly US scenics as well as some more experimental fine art and digital art there.

I'm also on Photo4Me, a UK site and have only sold European scenics there.#

I know about that. My problem is, I stay in Indonesia and take of course many photos from here, Malaysia, Thailand and Singapore.

Where is a market for prints from landsscapes and other kind of PHOTOS based in Asia?

Any kind of FAA in Asia?

Thanks for your ideas.

And one other thing:
Mostly sold on FAA are not photographs, mostly real painted arts or strange motifs which of course only get sold in America.

Is there any kind of FAA, where PHOTOS for print sold more than others?

« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2020, 10:28 »
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wordplanet wrote:
#I'm in the US and sell mostly US scenics as well as some more experimental fine art and digital art there.

I'm also on Photo4Me, a UK site and have only sold European scenics there.#

I know about that. My problem is, I stay in Indonesia and take of course many photos from here, Malaysia, Thailand and Singapore.

Where is a market for prints from landsscapes and other kind of PHOTOS based in Asia?

Any kind of FAA in Asia?

Thanks for your ideas.

And one other thing:
Mostly sold on FAA are not photographs, mostly real painted arts or strange motifs which of course only get sold in America.

Is there any kind of FAA, where PHOTOS for print sold more than others?
What about Photo4Me, it sells well?

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2020, 10:57 »
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ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2020, 11:25 »
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What about Photo4Me, it sells well?
wordplanet wrote:
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I'm also on Photo4Me, a UK site and have only sold European scenics there.
I have one pic there. Seemed like you had to get into a lot of likes to get likes back which might push your photos up in the rankings. The market is mostly UK, as far as I know.

« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2020, 13:01 »
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I am on both, FAA and s6,

but I look for a market, which like photos from Asia, maybe a market like FAA or s6, but in Aisa.

« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2020, 15:13 »
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One of the things that makes FAA convenient is that you get your personal pixels.ccom site which is basically FAA store clone  which you can use as a store implemented in your personal website or by app on page, or via link to your pixels store where only your work is shown. 

EXCEPT for the little fact that when  someone does a search on 'your' pixel site, the results come from the entire FAA collection, so any users you may attract are soon lured away

No it doesn't. That happens only on your FAA profile page. On your personal pixels.com site only your work shows up and nothing else.

I was 100% sure in this but I just checked again. Only your work shows up and its a huge + 

« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2020, 15:53 »
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What about Photo4Me, it sells well?
wordplanet wrote:
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I'm also on Photo4Me, a UK site and have only sold European scenics there.
I have one pic there. Seemed like you had to get into a lot of likes to get likes back which might push your photos up in the rankings. The market is mostly UK, as far as I know.
Thanks!

« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2020, 16:19 »
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One of the things that makes FAA convenient is that you get your personal pixels.ccom site which is basically FAA store clone  which you can use as a store implemented in your personal website or by app on page, or via link to your pixels store where only your work is shown. 

EXCEPT for the little fact that when  someone does a search on 'your' pixel site, the results come from the entire FAA collection, so any users you may attract are soon lured away

No it doesn't. That happens only on your FAA profile page. On your personal pixels.com site only your work shows up and nothing else.

I was 100% sure in this but I just checked again. Only your work shows up and its a huge +

correct - when someone comes to your page only your work is shown but , as i sad,  do a SEARCH from the top of your page and the user sees work from everyone


 

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