Maybe it's coincidence or maybe not...

Saw yesterday these searches by customers on my "Alamy customers search": mackerel cooked,grilled mackerel,grilled fish, also quit smoking, lung cancer..

Then I sold, same day these my old two pictures on the SS:


Same pictures founded on both sites in the same day...
So,if this is true, isn't it easier for a customer, to close his account at Alamy and start buying only at the SS!?

Probably not a coincidence. I think the question I'd be asking as a contributor is if I only had those images at Alamy, instead of at both micro and macro, would I have received a couple hundred dollars versus a couple quarters?

But would they have bought them from Alamy, at the higher price ??  or chosen something else from SS ??

Probably not a coincidence. I think the question I'd be asking as a contributor is if I only had those images at Alamy, instead of at both micro and macro, would I have received a couple hundred dollars versus a couple quarters?

Good question...

Wait for good sale for years at Alamy,maybe , or slowly making money on microstock?

Quote from: Stu49 on July 23, 2010, 07:01

Quote from: borg on July 23, 2010, 06:31

Maybe it's coincidence or maybe not...

What did they pay at SS and what would they have paid at Alamy ??

Subs

But why to search at Alamy , when everything can be bought at the SS ...

Especially when the terms of the license are not important for him, or he is "prepared" to copyright infringement on my pics ...

maybe just browsing for ideas, and liked what they found, so went off to find it cheaper !?

Yep! RF both...

Good question...

Wait for good sale for years at Alamy,maybe , or slowly making money on microstock?

^^ This is how I see it too.  I make way more money on all my images on micro than on Alamy.  Especially with the (already discussed to death) decreasing prices at Alamy. 

That said, I know for a fact that sometimes people will search Alamy and buy on the micros.  I actually had an Alamy customer service agent e-mail me saying a customer wanted to know if a particular picture was also on "Photolia".  I told them that it was on "Fotolia".  Needless to say that's where it was bought. 

Why Alamy customer service would be doing this kind of research to send customers AWAY to the micros I can't begin to understand.   

Quote from: borg on July 23, 2010, 07:03

Good question...

Wait for good sale for years at Alamy,maybe , or slowly making money on microstock?

^^ This is how I see it too.  I make way more money on all my images on micro than on Alamy.  Especially with the (already discussed to death) decreasing prices at Alamy. 

That said, I know for a fact that sometimes people will search Alamy and buy on the micros.  I actually had an Alamy customer service agent e-mail me saying a customer wanted to know if a particular picture was also on "Photolia".  I told them that it was on "Fotolia".  Needless to say that's where it was bought. 

Why Alamy customer service would be doing this kind of research to send customers AWAY to the micros I can't begin to understand.   

It makes me sick to read this kind of statements.

Alamy has it's own buyers regarding RM images. They've put RF just to keep with ever rising microstock offers and to be able to make some of their customers satisfied. That are Media Editors and not graphic designers as on microstock.

Would you try to understand that putting microstock RF image on Alamy will make exactly that what you got? Why . someone will pay you 10 or 100 times more for something what YOU are selling on other places for cheap? If you use your brain and I believe that you know how to do that, then you will conclude that not every RF image is to be put on microstock. If you try to recognize your microstock work (usually those with chance to sell hundreds or thousands of times) against those of yours plain RF images (usually those with chance to sell few times) then you'd have idea where to put what kind of image(s)...

It's just that RF is not the same as RF microstock, but with current trend it tends to become the same and flat. So, as you already had chance to see it, Veer is heading in that direction with RF only and making two not much different categories of images by pricing.

It is NOT using BRAIN by authors is killing your sales on RF because the same images you have on Microstock... That were two different markets with two different kinds of images which is currently in process of taking over in microstock advance!

Quote from: lisafx on July 23, 2010, 07:59

Quote from: borg on July 23, 2010, 07:03

Good question...

Wait for good sale for years at Alamy,maybe , or slowly making money on microstock?

^^ This is how I see it too.  I make way more money on all my images on micro than on Alamy.  Especially with the (already discussed to death) decreasing prices at Alamy.  

That said, I know for a fact that sometimes people will search Alamy and buy on the micros.  I actually had an Alamy customer service agent e-mail me saying a customer wanted to know if a particular picture was also on "Photolia".  I told them that it was on "Fotolia".  Needless to say that's where it was bought.  

Why Alamy customer service would be doing this kind of research to send customers AWAY to the micros I can't begin to understand.  

It makes me sick to read this kind of statements.

Alamy has it's own buyers regarding RM images. They've put RF just to keep with ever rising microstock offers and to be able to make some of their customers satisfied. That are Media Editors and not graphic designers as on microstock.

Would you try to understand that putting microstock RF image on Alamy will make exactly that what you got? Why . someone will pay you 10 or 100 times more for something what YOU are selling on other places for cheap? If you use your brain and I believe that you know how to do that, then you will conclude that not every RF image is to be put on microstock. If you try to recognize your microstock work (usually those with chance to sell hundreds or thousands of times) against those of yours plain RF images (usually those with chance to sell few times) then you'd have idea where to put what kind of image(s)...

It's just that RF is not the same as RF microstock, but with current trend it tends to become the same and flat. So, as you already had chance to see it, Veer is heading in that direction with RF only and making two not much different categories of images by pricing.

It is NOT using BRAIN by authors is killing your sales on RF because the same images you have on Microstock... That were two different markets with two different kinds of images which is currently in process of taking over in microstock advance!

You are not selling the image. You are selling the license to use it. Have you ever bothered to compare the actual prices for the license for specific use?

EDIT: I see that Lisa mentioned that in his #3 above.

At Alamy buyer is buying Full RF license, and on microstock buyer is buying limited RF. When you buy extended license on microstock it is almost similar as RF on Alamy but even then you have restrictions.
So from buyer point I will sometimes buy from SS, sometimes from Alamy depending witch license I need.

Would you try to understand that putting microstock RF image on Alamy will make exactly that what you got? Why . someone will pay you 10 or 100 times more for something what YOU are selling on other places for cheap? If you use your brain and I believe that you know how to do that, then you will conclude that not every RF image is to be put on microstock. If you try to recognize your microstock work (usually those with chance to sell hundreds or thousands of times) against those of yours plain RF images (usually those with chance to sell few times) then you'd have idea where to put what kind of image(s)...

And I don't understand why you and others who keep using this same argument don't understand that if a company uses Alamy for 99% of their images, and one day they decide they need a few RF images, that it is MUCH easier for them to buy right there rather than wasting time surfing the internet? Perhaps another reason Alamy jumped into the RF foray is exactly for that reason. Just like istockphoto jumped into the subs with Thinkstock. They want to keep their buyers right there on their site.  Yeah, there are going to be buyers who surf and shop. But then again, maybe there will be more who don't! Do you know for a fact how many do and how many don't? Rhetorical question, no one does except Alamy.

If it takes me a couple hours of uploading my RF port to Alamy, and I make an extra couple hundreds dollars here and there, I have paid for my time and the rest is gravy. PLUS, now I have an account on Alamy. So I can start uploading images RM if I choose!

IMHO, selling images micro or macro has become a very competitive business. It's all a crapshoot. Each person decides what is best for themselves and their own portfolio.

vitriolic  You made me look it up.  Now, that is a nice word.  

I think Albert is bored.  He has spent a lot of time making instigating and insulting posts.  Who is that guy?  

Is that so important to know WHO am I?

[added] Why do you find my posts 'insulting'? I just try to be helpful on my own specific way.

Why . someone will pay you 10 or 100 times more for something what YOU are selling on other places for cheap?

License, license and licenses!!!

Again, for those who do not know why???
With brain...

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/found-at-alamy-was-sold-on-ss/?action=post;quote=153292;num_replies=21;sesc=33f80e08463f885421f32e472896e8fe

Sjlocke explained very well that eternal question , why...?

At Alamy buyer is buying Full RF license, and on microstock buyer is buying limited RF. When you buy extended license on microstock it is almost similar as RF on Alamy but even then you have restrictions.
So from buyer point I will sometimes buy from SS, sometimes from Alamy depending witch license I need.

That is what I understand how it works