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« on: September 18, 2015, 15:38 »
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I just received this:


Hi there xxxx,
I hope this message finds you well and you don't mind me getting in touch. My name's Lxxxx and I'm a freelance contributor to Digital Photographer magazine.
I'm currently writing up an article on Dawn to dusk cityscapes" and would love to feature some of your gorgeous imagery.... As a freelancer I don't have a budget for image use, and therefore dont want to cause any offence. Of course all images would be credited to you (and your website), and I could send you a PDF of the article once finished (the shot is gorgeous and Id love to include it)
Let me know if this is something you might be interested in as soon as possible, or if you have any questions.

I really look forward to hearing from you soon,
Kindest regards,
Lxxxx Sxxx


 :)


my answer:


Hi Lxxxxx

I am honored by your consideration!

However, you must realize that all these photos cost a lot of money to realize.
A lot of money if you think how much I invested in photo equipment
A lot of money if you think about how much I have invested in computers and software needed to process these photos.
A lot of money if you think how much I have invested in the time needed to make those pictures.....
A lot of money if you think about how much I paid for gas, tolls, parking tickets....

I am not interested in credits, exposure, fame or popularity. All my pictures are displayed for selling purposes only.

Cheers,
« Last Edit: September 18, 2015, 15:40 by Zero Talent »


« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2015, 16:48 »
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Nothing wrong with a bit of exposure though  <-- see what I did there  ;D

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2015, 18:00 »
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You can't blame them for trying. Photographers are the cause of this. If photographers always said no or even responded with a bit of a %$#@! tone this kind of stuff would never happen. But plenty of photographers gladly hand over their work to these vultures which encourages them to do it more.

But hey, if one of your friends said you could get free (gas, camera equipment, haircut, etc) by simply telling a business that you'll make sure to give them credit who wouldn't do this? Unfortunately it seems like the only people that fall for this stuff are artists. What other business could you do this kind of thing where they wouldn't look at you like you were crazy?

My most recent one was a designer that was doing (paid) work for their client that was having a swanky private party at some ultra affluent location. After telling me this, he asked if I could email him the full-res original file for a specific image. Normally I try to be diplomatic but it was one of those days where I just wasn't in the mood and couldn't believe the ballsiness.

Sometimes exposure might make sense in trade for work for certain situations but I haven't come across one yet.

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2015, 02:40 »
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Sorry to say this sounds like possibly the only time I would have considered allowing them to use the photos.  It is an article about the photos you've taken rather than using them to promote another product. Could be one of the few types of exposure that doesn't  kill you! It could add to your rep as a go to city scape guy. Of course I understand and respect your response though. It's  what I'd  normally do.

« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2015, 08:43 »
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Sorry to say this sounds like possibly the only time I would have considered allowing them to use the photos.  It is an article about the photos you've taken rather than using them to promote another product. Could be one of the few types of exposure that doesn't  kill you! It could add to your rep as a go to city scape guy. Of course I understand and respect your response though. It's  what I'd  normally do.

They promote their product which is their magazine. It is not a free magazine (80 for 13 issues)
They promote camera manufacturers who advertise in it.

Following the same logic, the freelance journalist could also write the article for free, in exchange for credits and exposure, since it is about the articles she writes.

Moreover, their audience is made almost entirely from other photographers, who have no interest in purchasing my photos, but most probably selling theirs.


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« Last Edit: September 19, 2015, 08:48 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2015, 08:58 »
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Tell them you want 40 big ones, a quarter a dime and a nickel no pennies!

« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2015, 09:33 »
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Tell them you want 40 big ones, a quarter a dime and a nickel no pennies!

They could buy photos from the worst agency in the business, indeed (iStock & partners). And you might also benefit from it.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2015, 09:48 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2015, 09:56 »
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Thing is, as said above, it's for a mag that isn't free, and a writer that presumably doesn't work for nothing.


The argument about the images being sold cheap anyway is wrong to me. The sales add up, and it's what the images are put on whatever selling site for. Try going into a pound shop and asking for stuff for free, because they sell it so cheap. :-)




memakephoto

« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2015, 12:20 »
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I would have suggested getting co-author credit and 30-40% of the fee the magazine was paying for the article. That would go over well I'm sure.

« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2015, 14:20 »
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I would have suggested getting co-author credit and 30-40% of the fee the magazine was paying for the article. That would go over well I'm sure.

I doubt. It is cheaper to buy them from one of the stock agencies.
She will certainly find someone else to fall for the siren's call and give away photos for free, only to brag on FB, about "being published".
« Last Edit: September 19, 2015, 14:22 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2015, 14:22 »
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Sorry to say this sounds like possibly the only time I would have considered allowing them to use the photos.  It is an article about the photos you've taken rather than using them to promote another product. Could be one of the few types of exposure that doesn't  kill you! It could add to your rep as a go to city scape guy. Of course I understand and respect your response though. It's  what I'd  normally do.

They promote their product which is their magazine. It is not a free magazine (80 for 13 issues)
They promote camera manufacturers who advertise in it.

Following the same logic, the freelance journalist could also write the article for free, in exchange for credits and exposure, since it is about the articles she writes.

Moreover, their audience is made almost entirely from other photographers, who have no interest in purchasing my photos, but most probably selling theirs.


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I probably would have done it ... I mean, even if they got an EL it's not like you see all that much benefit ...

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2015, 14:43 »
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.......
Following the same logic, the freelance journalist could also write the article for free, in exchange for credits and exposure, since it is about the articles she writes.
.......

Nope, not at all. It would be like the journalist allowing their article to be printed for free in an industry magazine in a piece about commercial writing, as an example of how to write great articles. It would look great on their CV.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2015, 14:47 by Justanotherphotographer »

« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2015, 14:50 »
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.......
Following the same logic, the freelance journalist could also write the article for free, in exchange for credits and exposure, since it is about the articles she writes.
.......

Nope, not at all. It would be like the journalist allowing their article to be printed for free in an industry magazine as an example of how to write great articles, in a piece about commercial writing. It would look great on their CV.

Maybe you don't realize but we all are constantly published in a lot of newspapers, books, even photography magazines, and these publishers actually buy our photos from stock agencies. A lot of them even give you credits for your work.

Put all these publications on your CV, if you need it. I don't.



 
« Last Edit: September 19, 2015, 14:57 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2015, 15:45 »
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With images being so cheap nowadays, there just isnt any excuse for someone to expect something for free. Freakin cheapskates.

madman

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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2015, 15:55 »
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you may sell to her per image to 0,36 dollar, so you get $0,36 (like so) sale commission on other sites already.

memakephoto

« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2015, 10:18 »
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I would have suggested getting co-author credit and 30-40% of the fee the magazine was paying for the article. That would go over well I'm sure.

I doubt. It is cheaper to buy them from one of the stock agencies.
She will certainly find someone else to fall for the siren's call and give away photos for free, only to brag on FB, about "being published".

Yeah the last sentence of my post was sarcasm. "That would go over well" means there's no way a paid writer would agree to terms like that.

So many people believe their own work has value but what others do does not.


 

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