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« on: January 03, 2025, 21:13 »
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I know no more than was posted this afternoon. Not clear to me how a combined company would be better off from the investor point of view - both are struggling to grow at the rate investors want to see.

From the contributor point of view, both agencies have a history of forcing down royalty rates, so there's probably not much good news for suppliers.

Happy New Year!

https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/getty-images-explores-merger-with-shutterstock-bloomberg-news-reports-2025-01-03/

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/getty-images-exploring-merger-shutterstock-212322433.html

https://seekingalpha.com/news/4392448-getty-images-soars-on-report-that-shutterstock-is-interested-in-a-merger

Seeking Alpha incorrectly says that Getty went public in 2008 - they were bought by Hellman & Friedman in 2008 and taken private.

Probably unrelated: Adobe's stock dropped to $430.57 this afternoon after UBS issued a report describing "headwinds" in trying to monetize AI

https://finance.yahoo.com/m/c900c577-54a7-3e19-8e4a-db5d77ad79e8/adobe-stock-falls-as-ubs.html

From Barrons: "Adobe has increasingly embraced AI, rolling out its Firefly suite and incorporating generative AI tools into its flagship photo-editing software. However, UBS said early leaders like OpenAI, Runway, and Midjourney may outpace Adobe in the battle for a market the bank described as fiercely competitive."


« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2025, 22:48 »
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A Getty Shutterstock merger might get scrutiny from the US government's anti-trust watchdogs.

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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2025, 23:00 »
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So Getty, Shutterstock, Pond 5, and Envato (plus all the other smaller agencies that Getty, Shutterstock, Pond 5 and Envato have bought out over the years) all owned by one company?! Cray cray! Give it 5 years and they'll be bought by Disney or Amazon!

zeljkok

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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2025, 00:30 »
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SS / Getty merger makes little sense to me (but what do I know).  What would be much more logical is Adobe / Alamy merger, or Adobe buying Alamy which has strong Editorial foothold, and this is something Adobe lacks.  Ain't gonna happen but if it would I'd become exclusive. One can always dream.

Re Adobe stock drop: not really surprising. Heavy bet on that abomination they call Firefly had to come back & bite them where sun doesn't shine. I really hope they drop it. Not likely though

« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2025, 01:39 »
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A desperate move from shortsighted managements to keep their hungry investors happy... but for how long? Reality will set in after a quarter or two, and then what? Its almost ironic that Getty would choose Shutterstock as a partner. From an imagery perspective, Getty offers so much more in terms of quality and variety. Now theyre looking to merge with a library thats heavily diluted with AI content. How long before the vultures realize the bottomless pit theyre diving into?
« Last Edit: January 04, 2025, 01:47 by bennu99 »

« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2025, 04:26 »
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I do see the point that together they are a much larger business and can save a lot of costs by combined their teams (and cut down on people).

But who would be running the show???

If it is Getty, then the new company would have good media experience and probably the shutterstock library would get cleaned up drastically to remove undeclared ai.

Getty also has a great editorial team, so they could just take over.

But...if it is the Shutterstock management taking over...then Getty/istock will get run down.

That would then affect a lot of people  still making a full time income with Getty.

If it is a Getty organized buyout, I do see an advantage in a more professionally run Shutterstock and maybe a rise in clients.

I simply cannot imagine that Getty would be sold out to Shutterstock, it would probably then mean the slow death of both agencies.

Perhaps Oringer and partners want to get out.

Sell Shutterstock while the slow death is not so easy to see.

They are already being targeted by short sellers.

eta

After actually reading the links it looks like Getty is in the drivers seat.

SS stock has dropped a lot, it is actually quite clever of Getty to try to take over.

SS looks like a mess with all their mad aquisitions but no rise in sales.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2025, 04:34 by cobalt »

« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2025, 06:17 »
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Thanks for the heads-up, I have shared to the iStock forum.

« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2025, 07:21 »
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For the istock exclusives this would be very good news. All the customers they could not reach, those clients will now be coming to them.

It will make istock exclusivity more attractive again.

wds

« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2025, 09:58 »
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I believe SS was a large factor in the "race to the bottom" regarding pricing? I am not sorry to see them "go".

« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2025, 10:05 »
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SS is one of the leaders in the price race to the bottom, Getty is one of the leaders in the percentage paid to the artist race to the bottom. Together they will deliver really exciting news.

« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2025, 11:47 »
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in my opinion it could be good news from the point of view of sales volume which could increase for us contributors with a merger.

if they want to hope for a better future they must first of all change the royalty structure,the percentage for contributors must be higher,we are the ones who produce the contents,yes they sell,but they take 85% of the sale,and it is truly too much!

can be for them an opportunity to review their policies,but knowing the 2 subjects I highly doubt it!

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2025, 13:09 »
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Just to make this clear for our speculation. Getty has 3 times the corporate value of SS, roughly. 3 Billion vs 1 Billion. Getty has double the stock value of SSTK. But Getty has been paying back a large chunk of their profits (which makes them at a loss each year) for old debt. Getty doubled their customer base last year, but is still making less money, because these are the subscription buyers, not the high value, single image customers.

As far as all sources have reported this, Getty is the one proposing the merger. GETY stock jumped up and so did SSTK, based on the proposal of the merger.

I know that first I thought of "merger" I imagined one big agency. But the more I think about it, this could be a corporate merger, which leaves each as a division of the same corporation, operating on their own. No change for us.

I ask myself, do I want 15%, no change, no options, or do I want the essentially meaningless, annual reset and dime downloads. Yippee, I was up to 25 or 30% at SS and still getting 10-12 per download. 15% of a higher number has generally been, more than the measly SS dimes.

If you have Editorial, remember when iStock cut the Editorial News images because it was competition for Getty? They disabled 3,657 of mine, which was most of my IS income. Will Getty ask SS to do that as well?

Every article includes that the market for stock images has been severely devalued by AI, which is cheaper and easier to access.

« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2025, 13:23 »
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The people talking about "ai devaluing stock images" have obviously never tried to create something specific with ai.

Once you have wasted an afternoon on trying to create content, you will gladly buy from agencies again.

It simply doesn't work, you need far too many attempts and then you still need to edit in photoshop.

What was bringing prices down is the oversupply and more content being created in countries with lower costs of living.

But that is only true for images.

Why agencies decided to lower the prices for video even though there still is very little content, is something I don't understand.

Making web sizes cheap for social media use, ok, but why bring down the costs of 4k?

They might call it a merger, but the only logical way to go about it is if Getty takes over. They are the people with a solid understanding of the stock market.

Shutterstock used to have that, but they gave it all away 3 years ago.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2025, 13:45 »
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Seeking Alpha incorrectly says that Getty went public in 2008 - they were bought by Hellman & Friedman in 2008 and taken private.


Getty was brought back on the market through a SPAC, IPO in July 2022. Investors bought in at $10 a share.



"Deliberations are ongoing and Getty could choose not to pursue a deal, the report added." I don't trust much of this as anything but unconfirmed rumors. Maybe a pump and dump.

zeljkok

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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2025, 14:17 »
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SS is one of the leaders in the price race to the bottom, Getty is one of the leaders in the percentage paid to the artist race to the bottom. Together they will deliver really exciting news.

LOL (times 3).  You are right on. 

What we are witnessing is final end of microstock starting to unfold.  2 giants, leaders in the field, not able to stay afloat and exploring desperate measures before final fold.

« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2025, 14:46 »
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depends on how this merger is managed,there are many possible scenarios.

however I don't know why every articles say "market for stock images has been severely devalued by AI" because that's simply not the case.

Istock was the first to devalue the market by lowering prices to attract more customers and reducing royalties to 15% a decade before AI,they started playing with the spring,which is a lot of fun,but then this game bounces back in your face!  :D

the price of digital content to the end customer must rise,the percentages for contributors must increase.

everything is increasing and we have to earn more,simply this.

AI will never be able to replace the work of digital media creators,AI certainly change,AI have changed the scenario,the type of work a lot....but AI will never be able to replace creators in my opinion,at least not in this century I think!  :)

« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2025, 14:52 »
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ai cannot replace creators, just like the mobile phone did not replace creators.

However, I sincely doubt royalties will go up. Prices might rise with inflation, because agencies will gradually increase prices as well.

But content creation is moving to countries with very low costs. If they can make 300 dollars a month that is a nice midlevel income in many countries.

So why should agencies pay more? Because production in New York, London and Tokio are expensive?

They all have a premium segment where a small group of producers do earn quite a bit more to cover their production.

But that is only for the pros. For a few selected pros.

The unwashed masses will be looking at lower royalties and money.



« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2025, 15:14 »
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The people talking about "ai devaluing stock images" have obviously never tried to create something specific with ai.

Once you have wasted an afternoon on trying to create content, you will gladly buy from agencies again.

It simply doesn't work, you need far too many attempts and then you still need to edit in photoshop.

What was bringing prices down is the oversupply and more content being created in countries with lower costs of living.

But that is only true for images.

Why agencies decided to lower the prices for video even though there still is very little content, is something I don't understand.

Making web sizes cheap for social media use, ok, but why bring down the costs of 4k?

They might call it a merger, but the only logical way to go about it is if Getty takes over. They are the people with a solid understanding of the stock market.

Shutterstock used to have that, but they gave it all away 3 years ago.

You're more optimistic than I am.

I have used AI to generate dozens of images that I used for mockups in a regular basis. This is coming from someone who has had a lot of success in microstock, only to see a steadily decline in the last couple years, which coincides with the rise of generative AI.

Images doesn't have to be perfect. It just have to be good enough. A lot of companies cancelled their SS accounts because they no longer need to pay for an expensive subscriptions when they can generate free images every day from certain services.

« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2025, 15:29 »
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Maybe I am doing it wrong :)

I am creating ai for stock every day, still needs loads of prompting and editing to get it right.

« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2025, 17:38 »
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I've generated some AI podcast via google in german (sorry guys!) from the reuters and bloomberg news:
https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/f38ddd09-762d-4a21-9543-6f68f9f98bbe/audio

Thank's god we have gemini.

« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2025, 19:07 »
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Should this proceed, it would appear the microstock industry battle lines are being drawn up into two with one being the conglomerate of iStock / Shutterstock and all its marketplaces and the other Adobe Stock.

I'm not a trader so have little understanding of it but wondering why Shutterstock would want to do this merger with iStock when they would be merging with a company that has a lot lower share price (currently GETY at $2.39 and SSTK at $31.47)?

danielstassen

« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2025, 20:23 »
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Why agencies decided to lower the prices for video even though there still is very little content, is something I don't understand.

Making web sizes cheap for social media use, ok, but why bring down the costs of 4k?

I believe this trend has been largely driven by competition from agencies like Artlist and Storyblocks, which offer unlimited downloads through annual subscription plans. In free-market economies, prices for goods and services are fundamentally influenced by competition, supply, and demandcore principles of basic economics.

« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2025, 20:44 »
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Should this proceed, it would appear the microstock industry battle lines are being drawn up into two with one being the conglomerate of iStock / Shutterstock and all its marketplaces and the other Adobe Stock.

I'm not a trader so have little understanding of it but wondering why Shutterstock would want to do this merger with iStock when they would be merging with a company that has a lot lower share price (currently GETY at $2.39 and SSTK at $31.47)?

For starters Getty has over 78 million share and SSTK as 35 million shares thus double the amount of SS.

Brasilnut

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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2025, 21:35 »
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Here's a timeline of major mergers and acquisitions since 2009 that I put together.

Have I overlooked any other ones?

Source: https://brutallyhonestmicrostock.com/2025/01/04/breaking-news-getty-images-and-shutterstock-discuss-potential-merger/

I thought about putting another column on "Has it benefited contributors", but it's very difficult to know for sure...except for perhaps the SS acquiring Pond5 one.

Updated chart, thanks Jo Ann for inputs.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2025, 07:12 by Brasilnut »



 

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